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Unread 13 May 2006, 20:45   #101
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

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I didn't even know Bashar was playing I should really keep up. Now, who are Omen again? it's confusing with you not in ND any more aNgRyDuCk, at least Jonas and Mek are still at Insomnia (I think). People change between alliances more than footballers move between clubs, but at least we have a constant set of clubs.
Only time I have ever changed alliance is whern the one I was in disbanded, and I always followed the natural progression from the disbanding alliance.
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

I never said you'd changed, I didn't realise you were still playing I should have guessed. The 2 major alliances I was in died, despite my best efforts to drag them kicking and screaming into the next round.
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Unread 13 May 2006, 20:49   #103
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

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I didn't even know Bashar was playing I should really keep up. Now, who are Omen again? it's confusing with you not in ND any more aNgRyDuCk, at least Jonas and Mek are still at Insomnia (I think). People change between alliances more than footballers move between clubs, but at least we have a constant set of clubs.

they got a first round draft choice with me, I was the player to be named later
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Unread 13 May 2006, 21:47   #104
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

It'd be cool if it was like the FA Cup.
"Sorry, you've played for an alliance this round. You can't play with another alliance until next round".
That'd seriously cramp people's style
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

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It'd be cool if it was like the FA Cup.
"Sorry, you've played for an alliance this round. You can't play with another alliance until next round".
That'd seriously cramp people's style
Unfortunately it's a war game and not a game of tiddlywinks.
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

why does your tiddly keep winking at me then?
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

surely a one eyed monster winking is actually blinking.

it can't "wink" as such.
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Unread 14 May 2006, 01:44   #108
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

Are you planning on writing another alliance logbook entry in the next week Lokken?
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

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Are you planning on writing another alliance logbook entry in the next week Lokken?
yeah i think over 500 ticks since last 1 warrents a post at some point
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

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Are you planning on writing another alliance logbook entry in the next week Lokken?
I am busy with my legal practice course at the moment. As we speak i am learning stuff. I have exams in 3 weeks.

A logbook entry takes 30mins to an hour to compile and format and then reedit when i'm finished to remove any trace of bias or implication of bias.

Clearly, we need a volunteer to write it, but it would have to be someone who i felt could do it justice.
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

Here's a current happenings in a nutshell; Insomnia and NewDawn attacking Omen, Angels helping Omen to attack NewDawn and Insomnia. 1up are taking a huge lead in both score and value since everyone seems to 'forget' them.

oh and ROCK is in a war with F-Crew (right?)

(all from my POV ofc.)

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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

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I am busy with my legal practice course at the moment. As we speak i am learning stuff. I have exams in 3 weeks.

A logbook entry takes 30mins to an hour to compile and format and then reedit when i'm finished to remove any trace of bias or implication of bias.

Clearly, we need a volunteer to write it, but it would have to be someone who i felt could do it justice.
let Kjeldoran write it

would be a great read imho
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

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Here's a current happenings in a nutshell; Insomnia and NewDawn attacking Omen, Angels helping Omen to attack NewDawn and Insomnia. 1up are taking a huge lead in both score and value since everyone seems to 'forget' them.

oh and ROCK is in a war with F-Crew (right?)

(all from my POV ofc.)
ND and Subh attacking Omen? My galaxy got incs from subh and ND atm, and i theres only 1 Omen planet in my gal that i'm aware of
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

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surprised people haven't continued this thread, with 1up having such a low alliance score (although a lot greater than when this round started).
They have a higher score then when tick started? OMG, block everybody!
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd


Code:
1  Omen 32081 59 1,204,727 71,078,949 
2  Insomnia 33263 60 1,144,909 68,694,577 
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9  1up 27684 56 925,763 51,842,755 
10  xVx 25205 58 890,051 51,622,961 
11  ROCK 20696 68 702,532 47,772,189 
12  Tides of Fire 20250 58 764,612 44,347,531 
13  TGV 21450 51 814,239 41,526,202
They're only 10 million ahead of you. Omen are 30 million.
Well, Ascendancy beat them on 'their turn', so now it's someone else's turn to win and then they can win next round *


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ND and Subh attacking Omen? My galaxy got incs from subh and ND atm, and i theres only 1 Omen planet in my gal that i'm aware of. Atleast it looks to me that they ain't to eager at taking Omen down. Or maybe they just needed a break
I didn't say Subh was? ND is planet-targeting Omen however.
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I didn't say Subh was? ND is planet-targeting Omen however.
ND and Insomnia are both planet targetting Omen, so should SubH do a galraid on an Omen included galaxy it would obviously appear (to a view) that they're hitting "with" whoever piggies - or gets piggied by - them.
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I am busy with my legal practice course at the moment. As we speak i am learning stuff. I have exams in 3 weeks.

A logbook entry takes 30mins to an hour to compile and format and then reedit when i'm finished to remove any trace of bias or implication of bias.

Clearly, we need a volunteer to write it, but it would have to be someone who i felt could do it justice.
JBG? or jester?
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Here's a current happenings in a nutshell; Insomnia and NewDawn attacking Omen, Angels helping Omen to attack NewDawn and Insomnia. 1up are taking a huge lead in both score and value since everyone seems to 'forget' them.

oh and ROCK is in a war with F-Crew (right?)

(all from my POV ofc.)
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JBG? or jester?
Letting JBG write a logbook entry. Hmm.
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Letting JBG write a logbook entry. Hmm.
Would look something like this:
Actually it looked something like this
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

1up is slowly and steadily climbing up the ranks.
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And not all of their members are ingame :-)
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

far from it
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

The masterplan of 1up.
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I thought you said masterbation
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Actually it looked something like this
Kila's version would be more closely related to the truth though
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Unread 15 May 2006, 10:11   #134
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let Kjeldoran write it

would be a great read imho
Well, atleast you know it won't be full of crap like alot of other posters seem to be a big fan of. I'd be too biassed though.
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

For the love of god kj there's only one s in biased


PS Are you saying my logbook entry was full of crap or that a lot of people are fans of logbook entries full of crap or that people want to see logbook entries full of crap or do you just have a disturbing scat fetish?
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i have a bi ass, ed!
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For the love of god kj there's only one s in biased


PS Are you saying my logbook entry was full of crap or that a lot of people are fans of logbook entries full of crap or that people want to see logbook entries full of crap or do you just have a disturbing scat fetish?
All 4 are correct ...

I replied on the Mek's post who suggested I should update the logbook. Now, guessing that it was an ironic suggestion of him, I made a fitting reply.

It has nothing to do with you JBG ... thx for correcting me though.
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ND and Insomnia are both planet targetting Omen, so should SubH do a galraid on an Omen included galaxy it would obviously appear (to a view) that they're hitting "with" whoever piggies - or gets piggied by - them.
why should we not planet targetting Omen when you had the pleasure to be the first ally that naps one of the top alliances from Tick ~100ish?. We talked about it in pm...its just mysterious that Omen escapes a few nights with a 40~ish calls while having a roidlead of 3-4k rocks...hmm makes me think...ofc all coincidence.

Good luck in the further round. And you wont win Keizari. Let's face it.
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Dont you just love it when allys are trying to second guess you
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Yeah. I try my best to tell them better, but do they listen? Noo?
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why should we not planet targetting Omen when you had the pleasure to be the first ally that naps one of the top alliances from Tick ~100ish?. We talked about it in pm...its just mysterious that Omen escapes a few nights with a 40~ish calls while having a roidlead of 3-4k rocks...hmm makes me think...ofc all coincidence.
Funny where this all brought you, Anti, getting attacked by your loyal wingmen yourself, and ending up bickering with them too. Realizing that maybe there's an alliance even stronger than Omen, which has been enjoying the beach while certain people make their "quick descisions". Remember? It's funny how you turned from "Omen needs to be roided damn bad" to "ouch, I think we might have assessed the situation bad, will you Omen guys help us now then?".
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Funny where this all brought you, Anti, getting attacked by your loyal wingmen yourself, and ending up bickering with them too. Realizing that maybe there's an alliance even stronger than Omen, which has been enjoying the beach while certain people make their "quick descisions". Remember? It's funny how you turned from "Omen needs to be roided damn bad" to "ouch, I think we might have assessed the situation bad, will you Omen guys help us now then?".
Keizari...stop stirring the shit. You know the state of play yet you as the strongest alliance are unwilling to take the hits that come with such a decision.

ill talk to you on irc later about this, so id apreciate if you drop the crap. thankyou
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

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Keizari...stop stirring the shit. You know the state of play yet you as the strongest alliance are unwilling to take the hits that come with such a decision.
Can you see someone willing to take hits? Insomnia, maybe? Angels? Anyone? What I am - and was - saying, is, that the round is coming in a bit of a deadlock where there are more or less rumors about 1up rising, Angels has been sticking on the side of it, and the other major alliances have been fighting in a 2-v-1 fashion for a few bumps now. The fact that there are only 4 (or 5) alliaces in the circle makes it rather dull in a way of a dead end.
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Can you see someone willing to take hits? Insomnia, maybe? Angels? Anyone? What I am - and was - saying, is, that the round is coming in a bit of a deadlock where there are more or less rumors about 1up rising, Angels has been sticking on the side of it, and the other major alliances have been fighting in a 2-v-1 fashion for a few bumps now. The fact that there are only 4 (or 5) alliaces in the circle makes it rather dull in a way of a dead end.
looking at the numbers, I doot this is necessarily correct (my opinion).

To suggest Omen as some kind of victim when you're #1 with a reasonably ok gap is also pretty proposterous in general.
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I think we have to thank Insomnia and NewDawn for not making this round turn into another r10.5 because Angels and that dragons spin-off alliance are so shit scared of phantoms that they'd rather bore pa's playerbase to dead once again instead of making a really interesting match opening up in the top 4.
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To suggest Omen as some kind of victim when you're #1 with a reasonably ok gap is also pretty proposterous in general.
This is a fallacy, and I think r11 Lokken would agree with me. Was LCH not a victim when they had a gap on 1up? Were r13 Wolfpack not victims when they had a gap on EXilition?

I don't think Omen are necessarily in a bad place, but I don't think we should encourage setting up the #1 alliance as some sort of 'uberalliance' that is always in a superior position (and thus 'evil').

I've thrown around ideas to more accurately reflect the strength of current alliances, and Rob has suggested that a prediction market would more accurately reflect strength. For example, in r11 1up probably would've been priced as much more likely to win than LCH, despite often times being ranked below them.
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This is a fallacy, and I think r11 Lokken would agree with me. Was LCH not a victim when they had a gap on 1up? Were r13 Wolfpack not victims when they had a gap on EXilition? I don't think Omen are necessarily in a bad place, but I don't think we should encourage setting up the #1 alliance as some sort of 'uberalliance' that is always in a superior position (and thus 'evil').
Wolfpack just weren't as good as Exilition. LCH were better roiders, but ultimately lacked the fighting punch that the experienced 1up players had. An alliance like ND has proved to be outstanding roiders unchecked, only to see 1up/Exilition rip through them. So far as we know the 1up thing is 'rumour' and could easily be a ploy to draw fire away from Omen - no one knows 'for sure'.

I didn't say Omen were 'evil', I just said they were painting themselves out as victims when it's unwarranted as they currently have:

- an ND that seem to get a rather large amount of incoming and regularly lose roids;
- an Insomnia who I don't really fancy;
- Angels, who aren't good enough and would probably rather see hell freeze over than help some people out and that's their decision, i'm not going to challenge that.

In reality for the time being with alliances peforming as they are, what we're left with what is pretty much stagnation, with Omen holding a roid lead when roids start to really pay off. Does that look like victim to you? As it stands, Omen are sitting fairly pretty unless 1up have done an Ascendancy, in which case, they've probably lost already as 1up could hurt them very badly. I'm not feeling particularly sorry for them. That doesn't mean I think they're evil. Nor do I think they're pretty special either.

Round 11 was a round based on an utter fallacy that solo playing would provide entertainment, when actually all it did was help 1up because they were the best qualified to play in that atmosphere. LCH were no victim; it was their own fault along with the rest of the universe and not just smashing 1up for trying to pull a fast one (as people would have done with ascendancy if they could). This is a round with blocks and thus entirely different.

This game is interesting to play in terms of stats, but politically it feels like a big fat potato.
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

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As it stands, Omen are sitting fairly pretty unless 1up have done an Ascendancy, in which case, they've probably lost already as 1up could hurt them very badly.
It's not a big secret 1up has several high ranking players untagged. The image you see is a very simplified view, and really, it gets a bit more complicated when you have a peek what's been happening behind the curtains. It'll be interesting to see where everyone stands when tagging up finally happens.
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

In what way will it be interesting? As has been said, Angels, Omen, NewDawn, Insomnia all have a pretty good --> excellent idea about how big the value gap is. Tagging up won't mean anything.
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