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Appocomaster · 21 Jun 2006, 22:15

Currently, we have the following:
6 UK teams
2 US teams
2 Scandanivan teams (1 more team should be submitted soon though)
1 rest of europe team
1 rest of world team (should be another submitted soon).

Basically, the issue is that all but the UK groups are a bit lacking. I don't know if a second rest of europe team is coming, but there's only one real competition at the moment for the final. Unless a few more teams get together by Friday/Saturday (I'm willing to take teams right up until tick start, as long as they're willing to wait 10 minutes while I add them to the database) it's going to be pretty awful - hence my encouraging in CH to get some friends together. It's worth attempting it purely to get to the final. The only other thing I could think of was say doing UK, rest of europe, rest of world - only 3 clusters. This would give 6/4/4 teams (potentially), and then we could let the top 3 go through and have a bit more competition. We might get another one or two sign ups, but no one's really told me if they're submitting late.

SilverAce · 21 Jun 2006, 22:36

im all for the 3 region idea .... for those of us that have taken time out of our schedules/gotten together with friends ... itd be very lame if we had to sit there and cruise thru a 2 team region to the finals .... barring some mass last minute sign ups lets switch it up a bit and get some more competition

Travler · 23 Jun 2006, 00:06

Only 3 teams in the final would really not be much fun to me personally. It might be competative but once one of the teams fell behind it would be over pretty quickly and a winner would pull ahead too easy. Unless ofc its really 6 gals competing which would be fun.

pig · 23 Jun 2006, 02:12

3 region sounds good and maybe top 2 from two small regions and top 3 from uk or summet?

K-W · 23 Jun 2006, 02:27

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Originally Posted by pig

3 region sounds good and maybe top 2 from two small regions and top 3 from uk or summet?

Or the top 2 in all regions so the UK doesnt automatically win the finals...

pig · 23 Jun 2006, 02:37

well its a bit unfair to be honest germ

I mean theres 4 teams in region b and c, they get 2 places

6 teams in region a and we get 2 places.

Going on the logic of the first two places It would be one place for every two galaxies that competes.

I see where you are coming from completly though. Although I fail to see why the UK would automatically win the finals considering we have 3 teams compared to 4 teams from outside the uk...

K-W · 23 Jun 2006, 02:49

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Originally Posted by pig

well its a bit unfair to be honest germ

I mean theres 4 teams in region b and c, they get 2 places

6 teams in region a and we get 2 places.

Going on the logic of the first two places It would be one place for every two galaxies that competes.

I see where you are coming from completly though. Although I fail to see why the UK would automatically win the finals considering we have 3 teams compared to 4 teams from outside the uk...

No, what would be unfair is handing the World Cup to the UK because they have more players than the other regions. This isnt a game to see who can sign up the most planets and I cant comprehend why you think you should get an advantage for that.

The UK will be a more competitive region, thats how it shakes out. There isnt proportional representation in the real world cup either, btw.

Yes, the UK would have less players than the other two teams COMBINED. But it isnt UK versus the World, the other regions would also be competing with each other, meaning the UK would have a massive advantage.

pig · 23 Jun 2006, 02:53

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Originally Posted by K-W

No, what would be unfair is handing the World Cup to the UK because they have more players than the other regions. This isnt a game to see who can sign up the most planets and I cant comprehend why you think you should get an advantage for that.

The UK will be a more competitive region, thats how it shakes out. There isnt proportional representation in the real world cup either, btw.

Yes, the UK would have less players than the other two teams COMBINED. But it isnt UK versus the World, the other regions would also be competing with each other, meaning the UK would have a massive advantage.

I agree the UK is a competitive region but so is the rest of Europe especially scandinavia.

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Originally Posted by K-W

There isnt proportional representation in the real world cup either, btw.

For the qualifying there is.

Travler · 23 Jun 2006, 04:11

Maybe Appocomaster will have to come up with a few ideas and let us vote on them.

jerome · 23 Jun 2006, 14:27

skip the qualifying and play finals only on july 15/16.

Game^ · 23 Jun 2006, 14:52

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Originally Posted by K-W

Yes, the UK would have less players than the other two teams COMBINED. But it isnt UK versus the World, the other regions would also be competing with each other, meaning the UK would have a massive advantage.

Its not the best region that wins, it is the best galaxy.

If galaxies want to be silly enough to turn this into a three way region fight we may as well just play the first 6 hours, it will be over by then.

Appocomaster · 23 Jun 2006, 15:29

we have 14 teams submitted. We were going to go for about 10 in the final, but I guess anything over 8 is good enough.

breakdown is 6/2/3/1/2, basically the 2 teams i thought were going to be submitted are.

At the moment, the 6 UK teams go down to 2, and the scandinavian teams have to fight out to get down from 3 to 2, and 1 person can apply to be in the final for a rest of europe team.

Though it'd mean more UK teams in the final, i'd prefer to group UK/Rest of Europe/Rest of world, giving galaxies of 6/4/4, with the top 3/3/3 or 4/3/3 qualifiying, giving 9-10 galaxies in the final. This would still mean only a few teams get dropped, so won't be so hardcore as the final.

K-W · 23 Jun 2006, 15:34

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Originally Posted by Game^

Its not the best region that wins, it is the best galaxy.

If galaxies want to be silly enough to turn this into a three way region fight we may as well just play the first 6 hours, it will be over by then.

You are delluding yourself if you dont think people from the same country would support each other in the Planetarion World Cup. Perhaps in the regions that are more than one country this wouldnt happen as much, but that only gives the UK a greater advantage. The entire point of the WC is to have people compete based on the regions they live in. If it were strictly a galaxy competition we wouldnt be devided by location at all.

Appocomaster · 23 Jun 2006, 15:36

I think friendships will be more important than regions, actually

K-W · 23 Jun 2006, 15:40

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Originally Posted by Appocomaster

I think friendships will be more important than regions, actually

Im wondering why this event is called a world cup and why it is devided into regions if everyone thinks the regions dont matter.

Murador · 23 Jun 2006, 15:54

Thats a good ideia, shame half of the players of my gal said me they could have something else to do and I answer "go for it, we won't need to play the qualifying anyway"

K-W · 23 Jun 2006, 21:46

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NOTE: we've merged the world cup groups. The top 4 galaxies from the UK group qualify (from 6), and the top 3 from the 4 Rest of Europe / Rest of World galaxies qualify.

Well, hopefully I am proven wrong.

Appocomaster · 23 Jun 2006, 22:12

sorry

The Real Arfy · 24 Jun 2006, 00:41

While I agree with Germ, its 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, and neither decision was going to be accepted by all.

Wizard of Aus · 24 Jun 2006, 03:03

Like Jerome said, why not just skip straight to finals and have us all in 1 cluster?

Travler · 24 Jun 2006, 03:26

10 teams in the final is good. I felt that we needed at least 6 so this is the only set up that seems somewhat fair.