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Unread 15 Aug 2004, 00:00   #1
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Oh shit

so i had AVG run it's virus scan as usual today, only for it to scream at me VIRUS DETECTED :eek: the virus is Trojan horse Downloader.Swizzer.BL and is located on C:\Program Files\C2MEDIA\SETUP.EXE. Now obviously my first reaction is to move it to the virus vault, unfortunatly AVG says that the file can not be moved :eek: again. wtf do i do now?
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Re: Oh shit

i'd like to officially post the first

"Reformat"

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hmmm reformat? sounds a little drastic
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Re: Oh shit

It is.

Boot into safe mode.

Delete file.

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...unless there's another file replacing it again on startup
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Re: Oh shit

Due to dictionary definitions between accuracy and pedantry I'll allow you that one.

Check the Run hive of the registry and the standard Windows startup files too for virus signs.
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Re: Oh shit

after speaking to a friend on MSN, he advised me to go to Task Manager and to stop all processes, which i did. i then ran another virus scan and this time AVG was able to heal the file. yay. i then decided that it might be a good idea to run Ad-Adware, which i did. However, while Ad-Aware was running, AVG popped up with a shit load of messages warning about viruses, one of which was Download.Swizzle.BL, this time on a different file. bugger . i am now running AVG again to see if it will come up with anything, but i suspect it won't
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Re: Oh shit

any news??

I kept getting virus messages so i ran AVG and it found nothing! I had to Wipe my PC in the end!!
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so far AVG has found the Download.Swizzer.BL, but none of the others it warned about. wiping my laptop does not appeal to me as it has pretty much everything on it, and i haven't made backups

EDIT: the scans finished, it only found the one virus which it healed ok
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I use CD-RW's to backup, I do it reguarly.
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Re: Oh shit

take a hammer

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Re: Oh shit

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I use CD-RW's to backup, I do it reguarly.
i would too, unfortunatly i don't have a CD rewriter, or a floppy drive
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Re: Oh shit

IF you don't know how to fix this and you are asking for help on here how to fix it then your screwed already.

Reformat.
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Re: Oh shit

For the love of god just reformat your hard drive
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i would too, unfortunatly i don't have a CD rewriter, or a floppy drive
Do you have a USB socket?
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You can get these memory sticks to store data on if im correct....

Or you might be able to connect it to another computer and copy the files over and back agaiin?
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Something tells me that if he get's memory sticks, installs the drivers required that the virus will inevitably end up in the memory stick ready and waiting for the freshly reformatted HD.

Anyway with regards to the virus, is there any sensitive information on your pc or do you do any on-line shopping? Do you play any password secured games where the security of said account is of utmost importance to you? Is the performance of the machine greatly affected?

If no to all of the above, **** it let your pc be a zombie for a bit till you have some alternatives at hand or a technical guru friend who can come over and help.

Until then, if you have anything that is password secure or use on-line shopping or have anything you wish to install I suggest refraining for now till you do a reformat, just in case it's put a keylogger on your system somewhere.
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Something tells me that if he get's memory sticks, installs the drivers required that the virus will inevitably end up in the memory stick ready and waiting for the freshly reformatted HD.

Anyway with regards to the virus, is there any sensitive information on your pc or do you do any on-line shopping? Do you play any password secured games where the security of said account is of utmost importance to you? Is the performance of the machine greatly affected?

If no to all of the above, **** it let your pc be a zombie for a bit till you have some alternatives at hand or a technical guru friend who can come over and help.

Until then, if you have anything that is password secure or use on-line shopping or have anything you wish to install I suggest refraining for now till you do a reformat, just in case it's put a keylogger on your system somewhere.
i've got a memory stick, but i use that for transporting college work to and fro. i'm a bit concerned coz i ordered some weebls stuff t-shirts and brought some stuff off of eBay using my mums credit card yesterday, and i have no idea how long the virus has been there :eek: . the only password protected games i play are PA and NationStates, so nothing vitally important. the only thing i'm really worried about is my college work if the virus decides to be really nasty and starts wiping stuff, and also my dad has a lot of sensitive info on his computer, which i'm connecting to the net through on our wireless network
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It is.

Boot into safe mode.

Delete file.

Happy you.
If its a trojan then there may well be other backdoors installed on his system by now, a complete reformat is the standard solution for a root level compromise assuming you have anything on the machine that you would like guaranteed secure.
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Re: Oh shit

okay, so how do i reformat my HD and what mega important things should i do before reformatting?
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Save all your old files...
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Reformatting should always be the last resort. 90% of virus's can be sucessfully and fully removed, gone are the days when real virus programmers existed instead of the script kiddies propergating the net these days. Only in the event that critical system files are compromised should you ever consider a reformat.
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do you have a firewall?

it's easy to set one to just allow your browser access the 'net, and nothing else (except things you trust). A trojan would have to ask permission to do it's dirty deeds and you can just click 'no'. (try sygate, they do a free one I used to use, and it recognises known trojans)
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I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit, its the only way to be sure.

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first of many lol, dave you're a n00b posts.

also, get spybot, it's useful for desposing of spyware, and stop using IE, if you must use something like it use that opera skin i gave you or netscape.
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clearly the best thing is to send all your infected computers to me, and buy new ones
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nice try 1-X, i know where he lives, i can get it before you .
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How dare you class PA as 'not vitally important.'
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Re: Oh shit

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Originally Posted by SeanG
How dare you class PA as 'not vitally important.'
sorry

UPDATE: the messages that AVG keeps flashing up whenever i scan with Ad-Aware, warn me that there is the Java/ByteVerify (or something like that) present in the Ad-Aware program file. is this something i should be concerned about?
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