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29 Mar 2005, 22:08
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I hate the press
I now officially hate all press. I hate the tories, but what I saw last night on sky news was disgraceful. they were giving a speech on tory policies and this one was on child welfare. the first question asked was about that tory mp michael howard kicked out of the party. Howard diverted the question by replying that he would discuss it after they had discussed the child welfare policy and go back to the guy who had asked the question. So he went to the crowd to get questions on his child welfare policy and not one ****ing journalist had a question about this policy so he had to go bac and answer the mp question.
I was apalled by this. I know the tories are shit and don't stand a chance in hell of getting into power so their policies don't matter. But for the media to already have decided this and then (whether they were aware of it or not) gone on towards pushing this picture by displays such as this. When a party is treated shabbily is removes confiece from the voters so they'll vote for stronger party. this is a blantant perversion of any sense of democracy we deliver in this country.
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29 Mar 2005, 22:13
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Aardvark is a funny word
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Re: I hate the press
you can hardly accuse the present british media of being blairites.
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29 Mar 2005, 22:19
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TashTastic
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Re: I hate the press
Blair Broadcasting Corporation
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29 Mar 2005, 22:21
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Gone
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Re: I hate the press
I hate newsagents.
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29 Mar 2005, 22:25
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I am.
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Re: I hate the press
Quote:
Originally Posted by Madina
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alliteration doesn't make it true
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29 Mar 2005, 22:25
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Re: I hate the press
In the papers and everything there is supposed to be news but it is all opinion. they have shocking head-lines but calm text so the stroy is as bad as it seems. When they're watching the news they assume it tries to be equal due to law or somethng (except if you are watching Fox). So while you will be seeing equal amounts of Labour and Conservative on tv the actual information in the way it is presented will generally be pro-labour.
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The 20th century has been characterised by three developments of great political importance. The growth of democracy; the growth of corporate power; and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.
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29 Mar 2005, 22:40
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Re: I hate the press
Bloody freedom of the press
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29 Mar 2005, 22:49
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Gone
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Re: I hate the press
This is what happens with these kinds of things; they pander to the lowest common donominator to make teh money and have little interest in 'real' quality!
Amazing! Incredible! Ridiculous!
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29 Mar 2005, 23:06
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Aardvark is a funny word
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Re: I hate the press
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Originally Posted by All Systems Go
So while you will be seeing equal amounts of Labour and Conservative on tv the actual information in the way it is presented will generally be pro-labour.
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what in the eight pits of outraged sodomy are you talking about?
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How the Beaujolais is raining
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30 Mar 2005, 01:11
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Insanity Prawn Boy!
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Re: I hate the press
You need to stop reading the tabloids. I hate tabloids
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30 Mar 2005, 01:56
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so f*cking zen
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Re: I hate the press
I have despised the media for many years now.
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30 Mar 2005, 06:27
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Clerk
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Re: I hate the press
Opinion in news sources is no bad thing. The only bad thing is the people who think they can read one news source and get a balanced world view, or even worse the people who say things like "I read the Telegraph and the Guardian, that way I get both sides." as if that wasn't patently ridiculous.
We are fortunate to live in an age where genuine alternate viewpoints are only a few button presses away. Even ten or twenty years ago it would be a major chore to track down outside information, now we no longer have this excuse.
The mass media in this country (and any other country that I'm aware of)are indeed shit, but if they are read with a healthy skepticism* and in conjunction with other sources they are harmless enough.
* = Even if you don't get a chance to read anything else, reading a newspaper in a skeptical way is very easy for anyone with a reasonable education and very helpful. In all newspapers in this country bias is very easy to detect and even if you know nothing about a story it's usually quite possible what level of bullshit a particular piece is. This is especially true with science stories.
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30 Mar 2005, 10:04
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I am an idiot
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Re: I hate the press
The only paper I read nowadays is the companies monthly 'internal rag'. They do a good little section where a chosen employee gets to review films/books/websites and tell you about their likes/dislikes. Its riveting.
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30 Mar 2005, 10:24
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I am an idiot
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Re: I hate the press
I reviewed Debbie Does Dallas (the original), The bible and Planetarion, or course!
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30 Mar 2005, 10:37
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I am an idiot
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Re: I hate the press
It was a bit long, the new testament didnt do the old one justice, Mary was never a virgin.
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31 Mar 2005, 11:36
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Re: I hate the press
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Originally Posted by All Systems Go
Howard diverted the question by replying that he would discuss it after they had discussed the child welfare policy and go back to the guy who had asked the question. So he went to the crowd to get questions on his child welfare policy and not one ****ing journalist had a question about this policy so he had to go bac and answer the mp question.
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lol, that's brilliant an entire room full of journalists who don't know what to say. you couldn't make it up.
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31 Mar 2005, 12:36
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cynic
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Re: I hate the press
everyone knows that journalists are a bunch of bastards, isn't that what they are paid to be?
EDIT: ps, T&F, if you are going to call someone fit you have to provide pictures!
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31 Mar 2005, 12:42
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Re: I hate the press
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Originally Posted by roadrunner_0
everyone knows that journalists are a bunch of bastards, isn't that what they are paid to be?
EDIT: ps, T&F, if you are going to call someone fit you have to provide pictures!
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precisely.
PS: has anyone asked Howard: "Did you threaten to overrule him?"
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