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Unread 26 Apr 2014, 13:28   #151
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Re: R56 development thread.

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There is nothing wrong with playing like this. Just because they have good planets and score it means they are high up the ally ranks, IT DOES NOT mean they have an obligation to go ftw.
No. Means they schould ally #1, contriubte to naptarion. Let the others fight a uphill batle "for them" in the faint hope spore/ct top 10 planets ruin each other. So that SKN can get a free win from an alliance that doesn't botter to either go for rank for players or as an alliance.

gg. big ass def tag.
Had a meaningfuil round?

Oh yes. Do tell me how both you and Spore had an agreement from before the round. That's helpfull not like that's destroying the game even more.
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Unread 26 Apr 2014, 14:44   #152
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Re: R56 development thread.

I learned that point problems without a good solution its useless...

U all blame naptarion... How can this small comunity, playing something that require to many hours of dedication, become a new game..

How can u make a single mistake and ruin a entire round (crash as example)

Ppl want to change tag limit, bp limit, useless changes.. Really dont affect the game at all..

This game make people that like it have to leave... Thats a bigger problem then who gonna nap and win...
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Unread 27 Apr 2014, 02:31   #153
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Re: R56 development thread.

Joseph, the solution to stagnation inducing napping is pretty obvious... But then again, when people give their word to someone before the round and get scared of their reputation if they break it, illogical(to the majority) choices appears.

In my experience people leave this game because of 3 things; 1) RL 2) Other games 3) unfluent politics. Ususlly a combination of the three.
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Unread 27 Apr 2014, 07:49   #154
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No. Means they schould ally #1, contriubte to naptarion. Let the others fight a uphill batle "for them" in the faint hope spore/ct top 10 planets ruin each other. So that SKN can get a free win from an alliance that doesn't botter to either go for rank for players or as an alliance.

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Had a meaningfuil round?

Oh yes. Do tell me how both you and Spore had an agreement from before the round. That's helpfull not like that's destroying the game even more.
This is so ridiculously bitter its unbelievable.

Seriously if you have such an issue with the way politics are currently run in the game then go make your own competitive alliance and start changing them. LIke most alliances in this game, Vikings is a community, it plays for its community, it doesnt play to do yours or the rest of PA's bidding.

If we go down your route then why havent the rest of the 50+ tags done more to stop Spore? Why is Vikings so much to blame? Why hasnt HR gone 1v1 with Spore? Why hasnt ND? Why did it take so long for CT have a try? Why did no one join Ultores and take out the actual main threat to the round early on instead of stupidly believing Spore was paperthin alliance which was easy to take on? That is the real shocker of it, just looking at the few names on intel in my bot i can see that Spore is anything but 2nd rate and probably now more full of players capable of winning than Ultores or Apprime and definatly Vikings.

There is no blame for this round really all that happened was every alliance looked after themselves rather than taking a risk, there is nothing wrong with that it is just rare that everyone does it at the same.
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Unread 27 Apr 2014, 12:29   #155
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Re: R56 development thread.

Usually blocks are created to hit the biggest ally ingame, this round blocks seem to be napping the biggest ally. There is no ally willing to win pa anymore since it's not rewarding in any kind of way.

Might be an idea to finally change the scoresystem for alliance rankings where going to war actually is rewarded?
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Unread 27 Apr 2014, 13:40   #156
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Usually blocks are created to hit the biggest ally ingame, this round blocks seem to be napping the biggest ally. There is no ally willing to win pa anymore since it's not rewarding in any kind of way.

Might be an idea to finally change the scoresystem for alliance rankings where going to war actually is rewarded?
For every allies that have some dignity its rewardings.
A lot of players go for ranking, and they are content with bottom feeding, but most players ive been playing with likes big cooporatings against good target. Maybe this is why Spore attract so many players, they have the alliance as it main goal.
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Unread 27 Apr 2014, 13:59   #157
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Usually blocks are created to hit the biggest ally ingame, this round blocks seem to be napping the biggest ally. There is no ally willing to win pa anymore since it's not rewarding in any kind of way.

Might be an idea to finally change the scoresystem for alliance rankings where going to war actually is rewarded?
Tbh this is probably the best way to do it. Alliance POints were introduced about 10 rounds back and Appocomaster suggested they could be used to rank alliances eventually. I think now is the time. They are a pretty good account of alliance activity and ambition. Maybe if you add in multipliers for war time then this would make it even more fun.

I would like that if war is declared ingame then a HC from BOTH sides has to msg the PA team (make a bot planet in 1:1 where petitions could be sent Mars God OF War is a suggested R/P name). If both sides do this then the PA team turns on the multipliers for these 2 sides for 4(?) days. This is when most of the action happens.

Maybe it could be abused, but then most stuff in this game already is.

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Unread 27 Apr 2014, 14:12   #158
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Re: R56 development thread.

Well it's really not that hard to think of means to minimize the preround napping/agreements/blocks for a rounds lenght.

Something pa had for over a decade, those here who remember round 4/5, know that preround shit deals have been here from the beginning and they will continue to do so, regardless of the whining about honor, unwrtten rules, and what not(butcher, just forget beliving it).

There are two ways of getting somewhere, with this issue.

1. As cain mentioned, change the parameters of winning, i dont have the fantasy to figure out how, but sitting on most roids/value as the only game winner, only increases the incitement of pre round naps/deals.

2. Enforce serious handicaps to #1 alliance, handicaps that are proportional with the lead.
- for every +100 avg. Roids/planet in lead, minus 1% global cap for all in tag
- for every 5 million overall value lead in alliance, minus 10% salvage for all in tag, capped at 30 mill.
- For every consecutive 24 hours that #1 alliance are gaining more roids/score or a combination of both than #2, minus 2% to research and construction for all in tag.

Those were just quick examples, but the point stand.
You either need to change the way of winning or change the benefit of sitting on roids.

The first is surely the most popular, but harder to implement, i guess..
The second are undoubtly loathed by most, but easy to implement, starting round 57.

Regardless, if nothing changes, we'll see the same picture next round. No amount of whine threads or promises of honor can change that.
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Unread 27 Apr 2014, 14:43   #159
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Re: R56 development thread.

We dont need more hardcoding.
PA works in some ways as mother nature itself, survival of the fitest.
Spore did not get where they are cus of politics.
Alliances like FAnG/ND/Vikings will suffer next round cus of their politics this round.
PA is sadly enough not filled over with creative HCs and alliance, they tend to copy each other, the politics this round is a result of last round
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Re: R56 development thread.

You're absolutly correct, and the round after next, will take off where next round ended. Its been like that since the beginning, and will continue to do so if not changed through hard coding, 15 years of pa have shown us that much. Hc's are looking for the best outcome for their alliance, and if it involves pre napping/taking advantage of grudges from previous rounds, they wont hesitate to do so.

Such is real life politics, so is pa. And by all means if thats what the community wants lets keep it so.

But if you want changes, don't expect it to be delivered from the alliances.
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Unread 27 Apr 2014, 17:37   #161
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You're absolutly correct, and the round after next, will take off where next round ended. Its been like that since the beginning, and will continue to do so if not changed through hard coding, 15 years of pa have shown us that much. Hc's are looking for the best outcome for their alliance, and if it involves pre napping/taking advantage of grudges from previous rounds, they wont hesitate to do so.

Such is real life politics, so is pa. And by all means if thats what the community wants lets keep it so.

But if you want changes, don't expect it to be delivered from the alliances.
Very few alliances, its usualy only Vikings who keep doing this.
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Unread 27 Apr 2014, 18:52   #162
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Very few alliances, its usualy only Vikings who keep doing this.
Give it a rest Bitcher, ND and FanG pre blocked for numerous rds recently. Why do you have such a hard on for Vikings? Is it a secret crush? You should apply to join them and see how they actually work rather than commenting from the outside permantly.

Every alliance at some point has decided to stick rather than twist and stagnated a round by doing so. Even the normally gung-ho CT have done it on occasion. The only way, as killeah rightly says, to stop these never ended circle of stagnation is to find a way to hardcore it out of the game. But really that is for PA team to figure out before they run out of players, over to you Lunar and co.....
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Give it a rest Bitcher, ND and FanG pre blocked for numerous rds recently. Why do you have such a hard on for Vikings? Is it a secret crush? You should apply to join them and see how they actually work rather than commenting from the outside permantly.

Every alliance at some point has decided to stick rather than twist and stagnated a round by doing so. Even the normally gung-ho CT have done it on occasion. The only way, as killeah rightly says, to stop these never ended circle of stagnation is to find a way to hardcore it out of the game. But really that is for PA team to figure out before they run out of players, over to you Lunar and co.....
Wich rounds? Before r50 FAnG went solo into the rounds most, if not all of the rounds.
You cannot hardcore this out of the game, any changes made are more prone to make it worse imho.
Its up to the players to choose alliances that suits their style, and alliances HCs to attract players that suits them.
FAnG, Spore, CT, Apprime, and Ultores have suceeded on this in the past, there is no reason why other alliances cant do this aswell.
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Give it a rest Bitcher, ND and FanG pre blocked for numerous rds recently. Why do you have such a hard on for Vikings? Is it a secret crush? You should apply to join them and see how they actually work rather than commenting from the outside permantly.
I know that probably he wouldnt be accepted but it would be fun to see him here on AD defending Vikings and accusing some other ally of ruining the game.
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I know that probably he wouldnt be accepted but it would be fun to see him here on AD defending Vikings and accusing some other ally of ruining the game.
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Unread 27 Apr 2014, 20:34   #166
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This is so ridiculously bitter its unbelievable.

Seriously if you have such an issue with the way politics are currently run in the game then go make your own competitive alliance and start changing them. LIke most alliances in this game, Vikings is a community, it plays for its community, it doesnt play to do yours or the rest of PA's bidding.

If we go down your route then why havent the rest of the 50+ tags done more to stop Spore? Why is Vikings so much to blame?
Alright. I'm sorry, I've really tried to refrain from commenting on your posts until now, but there's just something I have to say, because I feel it's not being said. I just returned to PA, so answer me something...

First of all, something that's bothered me throughout all of your posts so far... Where's the rest of Vikings? Are you trying to tell us no single influenctial Vikings member (hint: HC) has made objections to Vikings decisions this round? Everybody's happy to not take a (rare?) chance to win the round? Where is everybody who agrees with you from your own alliance? Or hell, even disagrees. No, especially those who disagree. For their failure to act (sufficiently) they are perhaps more to blame.

Secondly... If everybody who can't win doesn't attack #1 to overtake them, #2 who imo actually had a chance to overtake #1 shouldn't either?

--- No, wait, it's even worse! If people who can't win attack #1 to at least make #1 fight for the win, then #2 who actually has a chance of overtaking #1 are just fine with sitting there and not trying to, you know, win a GAME?

--- No, wait, it's worse! Not only does #2 not only not actively do anything to beat #1 (the only alliance between them and a round win) - they actively attack #1's opposition, effectively siding with #1. I mean, escorting them to the win. Really? I'm not even gonna touch the whole "we won't hit you, oh, but we totally will" card that was played according to Ult.

Look, I just returned to PA, I don't know any of your alliances or a lot of your HC, let alone all of your political crap and tip-toeing. But I do know that in not trying to win a GAME you play, you demonstrate that either something is either fundamentally wrong with either this game or you, and if you'd ask me, I'd say there's a fair chance it's both.
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Re: R56 development thread.

This round has been a big ole' circle jerk.

Hopefully next round will be more interesting, and people will be less willing to have pre-round agreements.

The pre-round naps FAnG had with ND were due to, at that time, Ultores dominance of the game. There is no such alliance now, so no need to form such pre-round agreements, in my opinion.

Its always sad to see #1 and #2 napped, but it seems that its actually worse, I think there are agreements between all the top allies, which means none of them are actually attacking each other, and all are bottom feeding.

Although I haven't been involved in any politics this round, from an outsiders point of view, it has been the most boring round of PA in my memory. Looking forward to next round, and hopefully some excitement


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It's like 2 years since ult last won a round. It's impressive how those preround deals to take out Ult with an end of round commitment still dictate most PA player's lives. Stumbling over your own alliancees to keep a deal that no longer has any relevance. Whatever happened to carving out something for yourself on your own terms?
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Re: R56 development thread.

My post wasn't actually using Ultores as a reason for the current happenings, its a shame they didnt get more support to make this round a bit more interesting. It was the justification for the pre-round nap FAnG had with ND back in the day, however.

What was the reason for the pre-round nap between Viks and Spore (and CT, and ND?)? Surely these agreements should've been dumped with the aim of keeping the game interesting, like Spore dropped the nap with Faceless at the end of last round.
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CT and ND don't do preround naps together, we were each others top hostile for a while
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It seems I was premature with my critisism, interesting!
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I meant with Viks/Spore rather than each other gm.

I may be wrong in thinking so, but I thought I had read that Viks had a similiar agreement with CT to the one they have with Spore.
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Relation Change 889 Vikings has decided to end its alliance with Spore.


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Re: R56 development thread.

There was no pre-round NAPs r49 between FAnG and ND, and for majority of the round it was a fort avoidance.
Just to clarify that connovar must be thinking of an earlier round.
Anyway, its obvious to me why Spore wanted such a deal with viks preround, but there is unlikely any of the Spore HCs will come here with any explaination to "justify" this preround NAP.
Vikings how ever just cant play another game than theyve done for all their rounds.
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Did Vikings suddenly (and perhaps rather late) decide to go for #1, or is this an attempt to save face and members? And more relevantly... Can this gap still be bridged in less than 287 ticks?? Not judging here, actually curious :P
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Maybe too little too late, but at least it is an improvement. Hopefully whoever wins will have had to work a bit :P
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Did Vikings suddenly (and perhaps rather late) decide to go for #1, or is this an attempt to save face and members? And more relevantly... Can this gap still be bridged in less than 287 ticks?? Not judging here, actually curious :P
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Yup this was all masterminded by you butcher, definitely.
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Yup this was all masterminded by you butcher, definitely.
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I think this is Appime's doing!
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I meant with Viks/Spore rather than each other gm.

I may be wrong in thinking so, but I thought I had read that Viks had a similiar agreement with CT to the one they have with Spore.
Yeah, NO... we don't do preround agreements. nothing for the first week then a couple of fort avoidances.
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Yeah, NO... we don't do preround agreements. nothing for the first week then a couple of fort avoidances.
i can agree to this, CT and spore have been on friendly terms speaking to each other. but no deals not even fortavoidens. and no co-cords was ever xchanged. early in the round´s CT allways says no to any deals ;-)
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There was no pre-round NAPs r49 between FAnG and ND, and for majority of the round it was a fort avoidance.
Just to clarify that connovar must be thinking of an earlier round.
Anyway, its obvious to me why Spore wanted such a deal with viks preround, but there is unlikely any of the Spore HCs will come here with any explaination to "justify" this preround NAP.
Vikings how ever just cant play another game than theyve done for all their rounds.
Won't I? You underestimate to exactly what I'm prepared to do. If Spore wins, I'll spill everything and answer everyone's questions to Spore and it's round.
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Yeah, NO... we don't do preround agreements. nothing for the first week then a couple of fort avoidances.
I can confirm this is true. Everyone thought CT and Spore were allied from T1 last round. We weren't. Infact, we never had any official agreement with CT throughout last round. (There was no need for one due to Ultores)
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Random HC 1 - "Hey, lets agree that Ult needs to be kept down, and that we'll help eachother do so when they get #1 on roids or value"
Random HC 2 - "OK, lets see how things evolve"

Official? Unofficial? Who cares...
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Won't I? You underestimate to exactly what I'm prepared to do. If Spore wins, I'll spill everything and answer everyone's questions to Spore and it's round.
Well as the Spore/Vikings block is officially broken up, what are you holding on to?
Why would Spore on to create a block when there was _NO_ other Blocks around?
It seems to me that Spore mustve been over the top paranoid prior to tick start, and they turned up with a gun to a knife fight.
One would thought that with so many experince players in this game, they would know the history of the game, and know what ridiculously big preround blocks/agreements between top alliances has done to this game.
Im not trying to discredit Spore or Vikings on their ranks so far this round btw.
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Unread 29 Apr 2014, 09:44   #187
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Agreeing to be 'more friendly' with someone in a round, sounds to me like an official unofficial agreement to not attack one another.

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Imo Spore can't be blame or judged for their political movements since they are the winning alliance, however annoying the tactics may be, it is winning (has won) them the round.

All fault is on those who agree to these naps/avoidances, and then also decide to bash down the only alliances capable/willing to go for #1.

Sadly nothing will change until people like CT stop looking at Ult as the big ally to stop, because it is no longer the case, especially since the tactics used on Ultores every round for the past couple years have been a little overkill, and a lot of the big names are no longer around/willing to play.

Pretty sure i have repeated myself in previous posts so i apologise for that, but i just couldn't resist!
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So Vikings dropped the nap, opening up the potential for a lolathon on Spore and no one has bothered to do it???

They have had one day of decent incomming on them and they lost 6% of their roids, why are people scared to hit them?

Im so lost with this round, i think it should be renamed to FUBAR
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So Vikings dropped the nap, opening up the potential for a lolathon on Spore and no one has bothered to do it???

They have had one day of decent incomming on them and they lost 6% of their roids, why are people scared to hit them?

Im so lost with this round, i think it should be renamed to FUBAR
Same way im lost when i ask in our priv channel why we aint hitting spore or any other alliance that is #1.
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Same way im lost when i ask in our priv channel why we aint hitting spore or any other alliance that is #1.
Usualy im laughed at by you and your twin brother mikee
Actually i have barely been on irc for 10 days so i havent been around to laugh. YOu were asking at like tick 300 when FaNG was falling apart and Spore has a monstorous value lead over us alone. YOu wanted to just attack Spore, it would have just been giving them our roids if we had then.

If you asked now i would agree with you and i would demand my HC team contacted everyone and got a block together, make them earn their win. But FaNG is napped to Spore so that wont happen, we have to fight Spores agressors, not be one.
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Actually i have barely been on irc for 10 days so i havent been around to laugh. YOu were asking at like tick 300 when FaNG was falling apart and Spore has a monstorous value lead over us alone. YOu wanted to just attack Spore, it would have just been giving them our roids if we had then.

If you asked now i would agree with you and i would demand my HC team contacted everyone and got a block together, make them earn their win. But FaNG is napped to Spore so that wont happen, we have to fight Spores agressors, not be one.
So you would not agree to hit the #1 alliance before the round went into stagnation, but now as most people claim the round is over you would want to do a lolathon on them?
Seems like someone thinking like you, in a command positions in various allies this round, is the reason for alliances such as FAnG are so low ranked atm
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So you would not agree to hit the #1 alliance before the round went into stagnation, but now as most people claim the round is over you would want to do a lolathon on them?
Seems like someone thinking like you, in a command positions in various allies this round, is the reason for alliances such as FAnG are so low ranked atm
Learn to read ffs.

I said you were asking to attack them when we had an inactive hc team, no allies and no ppl claiming on attacks vs an alliance who were flying. There is being a hero and being a fool, there is a thin line between both and at the time you were suggesting it would have been foolish.
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Hahaha, that made my day, without knowing, you said something extremely funny butcher.


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Learn to read ffs.

I said you were asking to attack them when we had an inactive hc team, no allies and no ppl claiming on attacks vs an alliance who were flying. There is being a hero and being a fool, there is a thin line between both and at the time you were suggesting it would have been foolish.
Rather be the hero than the fool, every good allie thrive on hitting fat roids.
Activity is something that comes when the members get fat targets to choose from.
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Rather be the hero than the fool, every good allie thrive on hitting fat roids.
Activity is something that comes when the members get fat targets to choose from.
...it's not a choise between being a hero or a fool, which once again you've prooven how foolish you can be.

And how on earth does activity come from that?
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...it's not a choise between being a hero or a fool, which once again you've prooven how foolish you can be.

And how on earth does activity come from that?
Most players prefer war, action and fat targets.
Myself have no interest in newbie bashing, i like the cooporation part and teamplay.
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Myself have no interest in newbie bashing, i like the cooporation part and teamplay.
You still did not answer my question. What does this have to do with activity?
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You still did not answer my question. What does this have to do with activity?
Being able to get a challenge that is rewarding boost the activity on attacks.
You can look at ROCK R50, being the most offensive alliance, most likely due to the war with #1 alliance for big parts of the round.
Newbiebashing is boring and it does not do much for people that prefer wartarion.
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Being able to get a challenge that is rewarding boost the activity on attacks.
You can look at ROCK R50, being the most offensive alliance, most likely due to the war with #1 alliance for big parts of the round.
Newbiebashing is boring and it does not do much for people that prefer wartarion.
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a) People prefer a well organised alliance, that fufils the standards and practices it sets and does the best for its members. Flaky HC teams, TP that floats about by 3 hrs every night (8pm one night and 10:40pm the next and then 9pm the third for example), lack of communication, when communication contradicts itself, lack of knowledge (wether it be actual playing knowledge, stat knowledge or irc/bot knowledge). All these things breed inactivity because people wont bother wasting their time on a 'shambles'.

BIG FAT attacks are actually not necessary to have a productive and active alliance, you just need attacks that are in line with the curve of the active playerbase (top 500 planets) so if the average pleyer is on 500 roids then BC's should be looking for 400+ roids on MOST of the planets picked to attack.

b) ROCK Rd 50 was the round they took in all the Brazilians yeah? You know, the guys that went Xan and then 3 fleet attacked every day for a whole round, probably account for a large part of their 'attacking prowess' rather than their actual activity and happiness. ROCK got twatted to the ground once it got into a war properly tho yeah?

c) Newbiebashing can be productive in the early parts of the round, starting with a few XP lands and then using the dead planets to keep your roids inline with the top planets and set you up to do well.
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