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Unread 18 Jun 2003, 19:25   #1
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Whacked Americans.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...ic/2999780.stm

The Jist;

Senator who makes money from music decides that he wants anyone that isn't paying for the music should have their property destroyed.

Tangents.

Should this bill pass they should consequently pass bills to burn down business premises that sell second hand goods and blind people who read magazines without paying for them.

Opinion.

Sounds like a toothless threat ala Mohammed Al Sahhaf.

Though anything that would kick the dumb back off the internet would be a good thing.

I'm for it.
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Unread 18 Jun 2003, 19:27   #2
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Mr. Hatch will be out of office very quickly if such a bill were to pass...

He also doesn't even remotely represent americans on this one.
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Unread 18 Jun 2003, 19:29   #4
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Draconian measures are never any good.
But they work so well in the middle east and similarly civilized countries.
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Unread 18 Jun 2003, 19:31   #5
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oh yeah? what about JIGGEDY-FIGGEDY-****ED?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/2978988.stm
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Unread 18 Jun 2003, 19:31   #6
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Mr. Hatch will be out of office very quickly if such a bill were to pass...

He also doesn't even remotely represent americans on this one.
Since when has the american goverment represented americans?

I could swear they've only ever represented corporations intrests.

Which apparrently Hatch doesn't even represent on this one at least not in this severity.
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Unread 18 Jun 2003, 19:32   #7
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oh yeah? what about JIGGEDY-FIGGEDY-****ED?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/2978988.stm
Do not post again on this thread and remove this drivel from it.

This is something that would be heard on lunchtime radio and considered crazy humour. Nevermind not relevant in any sense other than you can post a url from the same website.
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Since when has the american goverment represented americans?

I could swear they've only ever represented corporations intrests.

Which apparrently Hatch doesn't even represent on this one at least not in this severity.
You don't know very much about our government then.

As for the rest, he represents what the RIAA has wanted, however I don't see any such bill lasting more than a few seconds in a Supreme Court session. This could be argued as punishment without due process. Theoretically, they would have to actually TRY you before they could do ANYTHING to you. Nevermind, privacy laws keep them from invading your computer unless it is completely consentual, and I highly doubt I'll ever give the RIAA access to my machine whether it has MP3s on it or not.
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Do not post again on this thread and remove this drivel from it.

This is something that would be heard on lunchtime radio and considered crazy humour. Nevermind not relevant in any sense other than you can post a url from the same website.
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Unread 18 Jun 2003, 19:47   #12
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You don't know very much about our government then.

As for the rest, he represents what the RIAA has wanted, however I don't see any such bill lasting more than a few seconds in a Supreme Court session. This could be argued as punishment without due process. Theoretically, they would have to actually TRY you before they could do ANYTHING to you. Nevermind, privacy laws keep them from invading your computer unless it is completely consentual, and I highly doubt I'll ever give the RIAA access to my machine whether it has MP3s on it or not.
In all seriousness though American goverments will and have rewritten the rule book whenever it suited them to their ends. I could list examples if you wish. Hence if they were to pass this theoretically you would also have to account for them creating other laws that would legally force you to co-operate etc. Then again this is all theoretical.

However I'm much enjoying the hypothetical spin off situations rather than what the law says what they can't do currently.

Do you think they would have the tools(considered skilled employees as tools as well) to stop most of the enlightened internet community?

Would you agree this borders on the same lines as industries complaints about business's that sell second hand material goods such as software and music etc.

When you buy a magazine/book/newspaper do you think about the price merely being a reflection of allowing you to read it at your leisure and deciding who else can read it?
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Unread 18 Jun 2003, 20:23   #13
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Senator Hatch said destroyed computers would show the government was serious
War on Drugs. War on Terror. War on mp3s.

Oh yeah, I'm convinced that my government is serious.

Realistically, Senator Hatch (never trust anyone named "Orrin") is simply catering to lobbyist groups who can provide him with campaign and project funding (re: the music industry). It's not as if this is a topic of "serious national concern" and has American lives at stake.
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This is just taking existing anti-"piracy" laws to their logical extreme. I don't see the problem (if you support, even vaguely, existing laws).
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