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Unread 20 Jun 2003, 16:29   #1
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Distinguishing Racism

The thread about the Michigan riots (and subsequently, the thread I was banned for) was not racist.

I have no grudges against black people, in any way, shape or form. I simply pointed out what utter stupidity the Michigan bunch have been showing as of late.

I'd like to ask whether, in this day and age, it is possible to criticize black people without being categorized as racist.

Because I'm fairly confident that my account would still be active had that post criticized white people.



That is racism.
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Unread 20 Jun 2003, 16:35   #2
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Unread 20 Jun 2003, 16:41   #3
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There are no black people.
nope, there is only white people dipped in milk and dark chocolate.
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Unread 20 Jun 2003, 16:45   #4
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There are no black people.
must you always be so picky
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Morrocans are black.

And when the light shines on them, they're blue.
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Unread 20 Jun 2003, 16:55   #6
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Morrocans are black.

And when the light shines on them, they're blue.
Blue M&M's?
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Unread 20 Jun 2003, 18:10   #7
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Despite what your dealer may tell you, Morrocan black really isnt any good!
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Despite what your dealer may tell you, Morrocan black really isnt any good!
is that true ?
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is that true ?
http://www.a-bomb-design.co.uk/~de_man/warning.html
Everything I've ever read since moving to pompey says so, which is why everyone in my house smoked the leaf.
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Everything I've ever read since moving to pompey says so, which is why everyone in my house smoked the leaf.
we dont smoke anything other than leaf anymore, havent done for a year now, we are ace
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Unread 20 Jun 2003, 18:53   #11
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Re: Distinguishing Racism

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The thread about the Michigan riots (and subsequently, the thread I was banned for) was not racist.
Yes it was. It was referring to black people collectively in a negative sense when there's precious little evidence to connect them together.

If you want to criticise people who undertake direct action (e.g. rioting, etc.) then cool. But starting a post with "What's the problem with people of African descent" is probably the wrong way to go about it.
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Unread 20 Jun 2003, 19:03   #12
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Re: Re: Distinguishing Racism

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Yes it was. It was referring to black people collectively in a negative sense when there's precious little evidence to connect them together.

If you want to criticise people who undertake direct action (e.g. rioting, etc.) then cool. But starting a post with "What's the problem with people of African descent" is probably the wrong way to go about it.
There were a lot of threads criticizing the rioters in Oldham, Manchester not so long ago.

The rioters in Oldham were white.

None of the threads were deleted.

To have one set of standards for one situation and another set for a different situation when both situations are so closely connected is unacceptable.

I rest my case and await your reply with eager anticipation
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Unread 20 Jun 2003, 19:06   #13
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The rioters in Oldham were white.
Well, actually they were both white and Asian. But anyway.

If someone starts a post saying "Those kids in Oldham really piss me off" - this isn't racism.

Someone starting a thread saying "What the **** is wrong with white people? Maybe they've had too long living in ****ing council estates, sniffing glue but..." would be racist - especially if it came from an Asian or black poster.

But you know that. Trolling is not cool, do you hear kids?
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Unread 20 Jun 2003, 19:15   #14
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Distinguishing Racism

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Well, actually they were both white and Asian. But anyway.

If someone starts a post saying "Those kids in Oldham really piss me off" - this isn't racism.

Someone starting a thread saying "What the **** is wrong with white people? Maybe they've had too long living in ****ing council estates, sniffing glue but..." would be racist - especially if it came from an Asian or black poster.

But you know that. Trolling is not cool, do you hear kids?
...sigh...

Okay, you win
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Unread 20 Jun 2003, 19:16   #15
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But as a matter of interest, I live in Oldham, and I saw no Asians among the protestors. And given what exactly they were rioting about, I'm not particularly surprised.
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But as a matter of interest, I live in Oldham, and I saw no Asians among the protestors. And given what exactly they were rioting about, I'm not particularly surprised.
Admittedly I wasn't there but :

"Two members of the Oldham community have tried to find reasons and solutions for Saturday night's violence between Asian youths and police." (emphasis added)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1354486.stm
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