Predictions R15

[Stifler]

Originally Posted by Exode

Woops... my bad

No idea who comes in 10th then.. my bet is on f-crew

well there are some playing in LCH

[Exode]

Thats why I put LCH in 8th :P

nah j/k

[ChipZ^]

I really cant see any situation where eX/1up can end 1st/2nd. Its pretty obvious that they will goto war and the loser will be bashed alot further down the rankings than 2nd .

What i will find interesting next round is angels. Will they fence sit to gain roids/value and so take an easier win? Will 1up/eX let it happen? Will Angels join the fight from the start as a 3 way war? Will Angels join a side and come a lapdog to the eventual winner again (1up or eX)?

IMO the whole round balances in Angels hands and i cant see them winning without the fence sitting option, which will ofc annoy the community

Angels fence sit:
#1 Angels
#2 1up or eX (depends who wins thier war)
#3-5 Dont care
#6 1up or eX

Angels play lapdog:
#1 1up or eX (depends on who wins thier war)
#2 Angels
#3-5 Dont care
#6 1up or eX

Angels fight from the start:
#1 1up or eX
#2-4 Don't care
#5 Angels

(btw ill go for the lapdog option but ive not decided whos yet:P)

[Rick James]

it all depends
cocaine is a helluva drug

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by ChipZ^

I really cant see any situation where eX/1up can end 1st/2nd. Its pretty obvious that they will goto war and the loser will be bashed alot further down the rankings than 2nd .

What i will find interesting next round is angels. Will they fence sit to gain roids/value and so take an easier win? Will 1up/eX let it happen? Will Angels join the fight from the start as a 3 way war? Will Angels join a side and come a lapdog to the eventual winner again (1up or eX)?

IMO the whole round balances in Angels hands and i cant see them winning without the fence sitting option, which will ofc annoy the community

Angels fence sit:
#1 Angels
#2 1up or eX (depends who wins thier war)
#3-5 Dont care
#6 1up or eX

Angels play lapdog:
#1 1up or eX (depends on who wins thier war)
#2 Angels
#3-5 Dont care
#6 1up or eX

Angels fight from the start:
#1 1up or eX
#2-4 Don't care
#5 Angels

(btw ill go for the lapdog option but ive not decided whos yet:P)

So according to what you just described ... There is no honourable way for Angels to win. IF we win, it'll be due to fencesitting ... Yet if we fight for it, we'll only end #5 according to you. I guess the choice would be easy then in your reality, not.?

[Paisley]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

So according to what you just described ... There is no honourable way for Angels to win. IF we win, it'll be due to fencesitting ... Yet if we fight for it, we'll only end #5 according to you. I guess the choice would be easy then in your reality, not.?

Some people may call it fence sitting, some may call it choosing your naps/blocks well. I don't know about yourself but I don't care what ppl think outside of my ally about my ally (except in negotiations). Either way I am sure Angels will have a good round.

Edit---sorting out them typos.

[ChipZ^]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

So according to what you just described ... There is no honourable way for Angels to win. IF we win, it'll be due to fencesitting ... Yet if we fight for it, we'll only end #5 according to you. I guess the choice would be easy then in your reality, not.?

Yes well done you seemed to have grasped the concept of my post

[Proxi]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

So according to what you just described ... There is no honourable way for Angels to win. IF we win, it'll be due to fencesitting ... Yet if we fight for it, we'll only end #5 according to you. I guess the choice would be easy then in your reality, not.?

I think what hes trying to say is that against exil/1up angels doesnt have the quality to win. (in his opinion)

[Barrow|Pony]

I am putting my money on the return of BlueTuba, Legion, and Led Zeppelin to take the Planetarion Community by storm.

Other than that, it's anyones game.

[aNgRyDuCk]

I predict Barrow wins the round

[Agerus]

exilition still playing the round, or did I miss something?

[Shyne]

Originally Posted by The_Fish

And as ND showed this round, we are not prepared to let someone run away with the round, whilst we can still stop it happening.

Didn't 1up hit ND first?

[Zh|l]

Originally Posted by Shyne

Didn't 1up hit ND first?

ND's natural progression of targetting led them to hitting 1up planets which were high ranking and well known at the time. We took the multiple waves of incoming upon key 1up members as a hostile act and thus struck back.

It might be seen as 1up having struck the first blow but that is mainly due to us having organized a full scale hit moreso designed with that mindset. Really, I don't think ND or 1up HC were surprised by what happened and I'm not certainly pointing any fingers in saying ND started it.

It was just natural evolution and inevitable with both our alliance's targetting options.

[Timeline]

wasn't this supposed to be a prediction thread....not a lets debate about the last round one

any way i see it as
#1 1up
#2 angels
#3 exi
#4 nd
#5 f-crew
#6 xvx
#7 lch
#8 rock
#9 insomnia
#10 tgv

[Psi_K]

Originally Posted by Agerus

exilition still playing the round, or did I miss something?

I think they renamed themselves to extinction?

[Agerus]

doubt you can win a round with 30 members

[The_Fish]

I think you'll see the membercount slowly rise, as soon as they get incs, their application will be accepted

[[BA]Apoc]

disappointed no-one thinks HR will even make the top 10, considering a few rounds back we were challenging for the top spots, a couple of bad rounds due to restructuring + tech issues and we're wiped out of everyones memories?

Not saying HR will win the round but i think a top 10 finish should be a breeze and a Top 5 finish depending on how the wars go.

w00f

Prediction for the Win i'll go 1up just cos exil are getting hype, r13 people weren't sure of them this round we all know how good they can be it won't be the same as r13 anyone who does think that is making a huge mistake, winning one round is admirable, winning many rounds is pedigree. R13 too many of the top allaince sat back and watched them rise to the top and no-one put up much of challenge. R15 people fear exil and
fear leads to anger,
anger leads to hate,
hate leads to suf-fer-ing
(sorry starwars moment)

[Paisley]

Originally Posted by [BA]Apoc

disappointed no-one thinks HR will even make the top 10, considering a few rounds back we were challenging for the top spots, a couple of bad rounds due to restructuring + tech issues and we're wiped out of everyones memories?

At least that way you can exceed most peoples expectations

[Alki]

I think exil are obv staying below the top5 so they can add those extra 20 members when the time comes

[The_Fish]

what? That makes no sense. You can't add 20 extra members because they would put you t5

[Paisley]

unless... What if it was done in 1 tick?

Edit- typo shame

[Alki]

hmm, forget what i said, i got how it was supposed to work mixed up;\

[The_Fish]

So, I was bored waiting for Santa, decided to look at a few peoples predictions again.

Originally Posted by Stifler

dont think ND will end above 1up

depending how LCH's restructure goes, and they dont throw themselves in with 1up or eX from the beginning, I would expect them to get top5 or maybe 3

Originally Posted by The_Fish

I think 1up will struggle next round.

It seems to me they are lacking friends for Round 15. Whilst ND is not going so petty that we will hit 1up because they beat us, I can see a smaller 1up memberbase struggling against a more motivated eXilition. The difference in R15 to previous rounds is that there are a lot of alliances who want to be more independant, and not want to just nap the top alliances and try to ride their wave.

I think eXilition will win R15. Angels 2nd. ND 3rd. I don't expect LCH to perform well. If ToT are playing then I expect them to do similar to R13, but with a higher ending rank. If they aren't, it will make eXi stronger, as I guess thats where a lot of them will play.

Originally Posted by Mek

haha...yet again no insomnia predictions :/

ahh well lol

we shall jump out of obscurity and shock you all once again

NICE GOING MEK!

Originally Posted by Chika

PREDICTIONS.
Lets have clear predictons please so we can all go back and laugh at the person who had the slightest clue of what was going on. If I had to be realistic...

1. Exilition- Its no secret that from the second that they have 2 1up coords until the end of the round they will hit 1up. Along with any help they muster.
2. ToF- Improve every round, partly due to the fact that they are insignificant, and will be under the radar.
3. Angels- Can't see Angels being hardcore against another Hardcore alliance, but they will be hardcore. (attacking a good alliance that is losing already is not hardcore)
4. 1up- Will be hard to sustain concentrated incoming plus "gal" attacks all round.
5. Newdawn- Will get hit harder than last round. I was shakey to give them 5, for the simple fact that by any measure, when they get real incoming, they fold in half. But i think whatever start they have to the round will carry them to top 5.

Originally Posted by mazzelaar

In the correct theatre ND could well win. Given ND's performance from this round and knowing exactly where they need to improve I would never write them off. However, I would stand by my initial post that at this moment in time if it came to one on one with 1up/Exil I do not feel they have the depth to cope.

mazz ftw

Originally Posted by mazzelaar

Nice post Gate but I suspect although you genuinely believe the latter part about 'bearing grudges' I don't believe any of the others who have been posting heavily on behalf of ND have the same opinion and attitude towards 1up.

mazz ftl?

Originally Posted by I am Idler

1. 1up
2. Exil
3. Angels
4. ToF
75. ND

Seems about right to me

Originally Posted by The_Fish

IMO, R15 is looking exciting.

Exilition want to prove they arent a 1 round wonder.
1up want to prove they are better than Exilition. A 0% success rate against them would be hard to take.
Angels want to prove they can make it on their own and don't need to nap anyone seen as 'better' as them and want to show they are as good as anyone.
ND want to prove that our 2nd wasn't a fluke and we are an alliance to be taken serious, both on the battlefield and the political arena.

[furball]

Originally Posted by furball before round start and alliances disbanded

1) eXilition - not necessarily my preferred victor, but I think they've been served well by taking a round off.
2) Angels - riding the eXiltion wave to #2, again. I don't see a 1up/Angels alliance any time soon, so I can only suppose that they will be closer to eX.
3) 1up - because there's no other alliance who is able to take 3rd.
4) NewDawn - despite the probable loss of Gate for R15 (), they have more strength to get 4th than any other alliance. They will need to avoid being targetted early on, and for that reason I think they should keep out of blocks. If they can manage this, they'll do just fine.
5) ToT - I expect that despite a lower member count, they'll do very very well.
6) Reunion - a lot of their members will probably head back to eXilition, leaving only the original core.
7) Vengeance - because we rule. We now have the strength in depth to consolidate our strong Round 14 finish, whereas we couldn't replicate the same thing after Round 12. Of course, you're all welcome to underestimate us
8) Subh - I rate you guys very highly, not sure on member levels quite yet though.
9) LCH - the proverbial after-thought after this round's collapse.
10) ToF - I don't think you can hold onto your Round 14 spot. I feel like you guys are a couple of rounds behind us, and your Round 15 won't be dissimilar to our Round 13. Your members will have very high expectations after Round 14, and if you sustain any heavy losses early on, morale will drop along with your ability to cover defence calls. The sharks will then circle, I'm sorry to say.

Well, Reunion didn't play and ToT played in LCH, screwing things up immediatly . Insomnia collapsed, reinforcing NewDawn.

I should have rated Subh more highly and LCH came back well, probably against most predictions. Gate was around for r15, which I didn't expect at the time of posting. ToF fell dramatically, as I expected, and TGV did well to take their place in the top 10.

Originally Posted by mazzelaar

I actually think, given a few small improvements and a very savvy political round, ND could upset everyone.

Nice one :xmas:

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

It's fun to see pple consider us to be retards who are unable to learn from past mistakes ...

Anyone believing the line you just wrote [angels as number 2, friendly to eXil]... I'll kindly laugh in his face and call him an idiot (sorry)

Well, you didn't go with eXil, it's true. Instead, you teamed up with 1up early on to unsuccessfully twat eXil.

ND and Angels are two contrasts. Angels have an excellent military by all accounts, but seem unable to politically use it. ND have played politically-savvy rounds two rounds running, but don't quite have the military might yet. In my eyes, Angels need more friends and fewer enemies.

[Ace]

Originally Posted by furball

*SNIP* ToT played in LCH *SNIP*

EERRRMMM little correction on that part, yes some ToT players play with LCH (as they did since ToT stopped playing) there where 2 extra ToT players that returned to PA and played with LCH this round.
So calling it "ToT played in LCH" is a bit overrated

But let me make it up to you by asking wakko to PM you a few famous ToT URLs hehe

[Veedeejem!]

Originally Posted by furball

ToF fell dramatically, as I expected

you haven't seen the last of us...

[furball]

Sorry, obviously what I heard is different from fact over-atching generalisations ftw!!!


Say hi to Wakko for me, but I'm not opening any urls

[furball]

Originally Posted by Veedeejem!

you haven't seen the last of us...

I sincerely hope not.

Try to do what we did in Round 14 - play with just the core, the true ToF members. Go back to basics, and work from there.

[The_Fish]

Originally Posted by furball

I sincerely hope not.

Try to do what we did in Round 14 - play with just the core, the true ToF members. Go back to basics, and work from there.

Same as what ND did in R14 also.... tbh its the only way to ensure a long term stable and effective alliance.

[Paisley]

Originally Posted by buddies

What I do predict is....
Some alliances will exceed expectations, some will complain of players being poached/bashed
Some players will have big(ger) heads, some will quit the round early and bitch about it.
Some HCs will pick their fights well, some HCs will complain that other ally's blocks/NAPs stagnate the round.

Just turned out different from which Allys and ppl I had expected...

Exil, ND, Angels, LCH, Subh TGV have had a good round

Unlucky to Insomnia, 1up, ToF

[Legator]

Originally Posted by furball

Well, Reunion didn't play and ToT played in LCH, screwing things up immediatly . Insomnia collapsed, reinforcing NewDawn.

Reunion didnt play ? :/

We played, we just cutted our memberbase to the most loyal and took the fight, our goals were different than others tho.

seems we end fairly in top 25.

Thanks to zz-crew and penis-alliance for their great support.

Legator
Reunion HC
zz-crew wc

[LukeyLove]

1. Exilition
2. 1up
3. LCH
4. ND
5. Angels
6. VGN
7. HR
8. ToF

Not exactly very contraversial, i expect LCH to regain alot of their better members after their showing this round.. and if the ties between them and Ex stay strong next round maybe a top2 finish for them