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1 Apr 2003, 20:47
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Is it official yet?
Do NAR still have hope, or are all their active players basically farms for the winners already...?
Or has the <name your favorite enemy> propaganda machine just tricked me into thinking that WEET are already ruling the universe?
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1 Apr 2003, 21:35
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depends on 2 things really;
NaR HC and NaR members
as long as neither give up there is always a chance that the tide of war can be changed. they have the numbers to stop weet, it just depends on how effective they are with those numbers.
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1 Apr 2003, 22:07
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Quote:
Originally posted by Morden
depends on 2 things really;
NaR HC and NaR members
as long as neither give up there is always a chance that the tide of war can be changed. they have the numbers to stop weet, it just depends on how effective they are with those numbers.
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I hope u don't mean that nar is bigger than weet. it's rather weet who have the numbers on theyr side...
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1 Apr 2003, 22:57
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We have by no means given up already, we'll fight till our last ship
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1 Apr 2003, 23:12
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Originally posted by TehVader
We have by no means given up already, we'll fight till our last ship
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I didn't ask about giving up. VOM are fighting till their last ship .
More like, is the situation already so far that NAR'll have to fight to the last ship, while WEET'll have plenty to spare (for roiding planets like mine, no doubt...).
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1 Apr 2003, 23:36
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So what?
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Originally posted by Urkki
I didn't ask about giving up. VOM are fighting till their last ship .
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You mean apart from the ones that chickened out and went into vacation mode, of course.
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1 Apr 2003, 23:37
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Originally posted by TehVader
We have by no means given up already, we'll fight till our last ship
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thats cause only you got ships left
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1 Apr 2003, 23:40
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Originally posted by Shev
You mean apart from the ones that chickened out and went into vacation mode, of course.
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You're so last week.
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1 Apr 2003, 23:40
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Originally posted by TehVader
We have by no means given up already, we'll fight till our last ship
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Good luck Vader.
Not much we can do now!
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1 Apr 2003, 23:42
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You're so last week.
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yeah, last week it was an acceptible tactic..
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1 Apr 2003, 23:54
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So what?
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Originally posted by Psi_K
You're so last week.
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You're so painfully insulting.
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2 Apr 2003, 00:02
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Originally posted by Domin
I hope u don't mean that nar is bigger than weet. it's rather weet who have the numbers on theyr side...
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numbers arent as big an issue as you might think, for the winning side in a one sided war members often get bored and dont put there all into there alliance,
however for members who are fighting up a steep hill, they will fight much much harder and can regain ground twice as fast as someone who is having an easy round, it just takes an opertunity.
for those who think it is impossible then you might as well delete your planet as you do nothing but weaken the chances of eventually turning the tide.
weet might be bigger than nar/vom in score yes they might have more ships, but if nar and vom were to co-ordinate a counter offensive with 3/4 of there total memberbase they could take at least 1/2 of weet in one go, now even for a side that is winning that is almost impossible to cover all, if planned well it is unlikely that they could cover 50% of the incomming, that would be a heavy blow even to the side who is winning, due to it increasing moral on the vom/nar side and decreasing it in the weet side.
+ even if they decided to take another tactic such as picking 1 alliance out of weet and using it as there primary target, they could focus enough ships on that alliance to make it next to impossible to defend much of it without bringing in allied support which most know full well to organise enough to help is not easy.
at best guess if nar/vom could hit 15 galaxies of there primary target and cover them fully so it will hurt there target a lot, they would have acheived a far greater goal than half arsedly hitting 50 galaxies, simply because those 15 gals who get hit perhaps 5 would get covered the other 10 would be left to dry they would taste defeat and it would lower there confidence in there alliance.
thats enough for tonight anyway, at the end of the day it will be there own fault if they lose, they've had plenty of opertunities. vom could have hurt them severely at the start of the round if they hadnt been so ineffective.
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2 Apr 2003, 00:13
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Quote:
Originally posted by Morden
numbers arent as big an issue as you might think, for the winning side in a one sided war members often get bored and dont put there all into there alliance,
however for members who are fighting up a steep hill, they will fight much much harder and can regain ground twice as fast as someone who is having an easy round, it just takes an opertunity.
for those who think it is impossible then you might as well delete your planet as you do nothing but weaken the chances of eventually turning the tide.
weet might be bigger than nar/vom in score yes they might have more ships, but if nar and vom were to co-ordinate a counter offensive with 3/4 of there total memberbase they could take at least 1/2 of weet in one go, now even for a side that is winning that is almost impossible to cover all, if planned well it is unlikely that they could cover 50% of the incomming, that would be a heavy blow even to the side who is winning, due to it increasing moral on the vom/nar side and decreasing it in the weet side.
+ even if they decided to take another tactic such as picking 1 alliance out of weet and using it as there primary target, they could focus enough ships on that alliance to make it next to impossible to defend much of it without bringing in allied support which most know full well to organise enough to help is not easy.
at best guess if nar/vom could hit 15 galaxies of there primary target and cover them fully so it will hurt there target a lot, they would have acheived a far greater goal than half arsedly hitting 50 galaxies, simply because those 15 gals who get hit perhaps 5 would get covered the other 10 would be left to dry they would taste defeat and it would lower there confidence in there alliance.
thats enough for tonight anyway, at the end of the day it will be there own fault if they lose, they've had plenty of opertunities. vom could have hurt them severely at the start of the round if they hadnt been so ineffective.
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What your purpose would actually take some thaught and preperation, even a little bit of courage. Can you honestly see anyone from the mentioned sides collectivly gathering that heh ? What I mean, is there are some good men littered with the trash, but the trash is over crowding them
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Quote:
Originally posted by Morden
numbers arent as big an issue as you might think, for the winning side in a one sided war members often get bored and dont put there all into there alliance,
however for members who are fighting up a steep hill, they will fight much much harder and can regain ground twice as fast as someone who is having an easy round, it just takes an opertunity.
for those who think it is impossible then you might as well delete your planet as you do nothing but weaken the chances of eventually turning the tide.
weet might be bigger than nar/vom in score yes they might have more ships, but if nar and vom were to co-ordinate a counter offensive with 3/4 of there total memberbase they could take at least 1/2 of weet in one go, now even for a side that is winning that is almost impossible to cover all, if planned well it is unlikely that they could cover 50% of the incomming, that would be a heavy blow even to the side who is winning, due to it increasing moral on the vom/nar side and decreasing it in the weet side.
+ even if they decided to take another tactic such as picking 1 alliance out of weet and using it as there primary target, they could focus enough ships on that alliance to make it next to impossible to defend much of it without bringing in allied support which most know full well to organise enough to help is not easy.
at best guess if nar/vom could hit 15 galaxies of there primary target and cover them fully so it will hurt there target a lot, they would have acheived a far greater goal than half arsedly hitting 50 galaxies, simply because those 15 gals who get hit perhaps 5 would get covered the other 10 would be left to dry they would taste defeat and it would lower there confidence in there alliance.
thats enough for tonight anyway, at the end of the day it will be there own fault if they lose, they've had plenty of opertunities. vom could have hurt them severely at the start of the round if they hadnt been so ineffective.
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aye, that's how it should be..but far too many people have given up hope. Many see Eclipse as an untoppable foe this round. If i had my way, and if i could magically make all of our members active again, I would do exactly a you suggested. However, I doubt we'll see anything apart from a big attack on a top10 gal :\
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2 Apr 2003, 06:40
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I wouldn't say hope is gone yet, there are some events that could shift the momentum towards Nar. While the means are still there, there is the possibility.
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2 Apr 2003, 07:43
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If VOM allies NAR it would go into everything VOM said and stands for
Not allying with other blocks etc
So tbh it would be a bit lame if they started now.
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2 Apr 2003, 10:08
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nar is losing lots.. they are poo at deffing and at attacking... just was easy for em to go along with weet in the numbers game... now they have to fight they get hurt
and as for eclipse being winners... they'll only become that when they screw over allies... else they aint that good:P
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DIE NAR DIE NAR DIE NAR DIE NAR DIE NAR !!!!!!
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2 Apr 2003, 15:06
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Originally posted by Damon
If VOM allies NAR it would go into everything VOM said and stands for
Not allying with other blocks etc
So tbh it would be a bit lame if they started now.
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Because weeks and weeks of stagnation is better? Right?
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2 Apr 2003, 15:22
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Because weeks and weeks of stagnation is better? Right?
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Yes.
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2 Apr 2003, 15:34
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Quote:
Originally posted by Damon
If VOM allies NAR it would go into everything VOM said and stands for
Not allying with other blocks etc
So tbh it would be a bit lame if they started now.
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who said anything about allying? or napping?
hell this game has got too narrow minded politically, people dont seem to realise that different groups can agree to attack the same target(s) without it being an alliance.
or that they cant work together on a few joint ventures without it being an unholy alliance.
also if your so worried about your alliances apearance on AD then you are sadly missguided as they dont exactly have a great image and to my knowledge never have, so your a bit late to start worrying about it now.
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The battle will only be considered lost when the last planet is killed , till then we will continue to strike and strike and strike....
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Originally posted by Psi_K
You're so last week.
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at least he WAS something:P
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2 Apr 2003, 19:08
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Originally posted by cyphie
and as for eclipse being winners... they'll only become that when they screw over allies... else they aint that good:P
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and what else is new????
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Originally posted by sigrid
at least he WAS something:P
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Maybe one of these days you'll grow up and quit with the attempts at personal insults.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Morden
weet might be bigger than nar/vom in score yes they might have more ships, but if nar and vom were to co-ordinate a counter offensive with 3/4 of there total memberbase they could take at least 1/2 of weet in one go, now even for a side that is winning that is almost impossible to cover all, if planned well it is unlikely that they could cover 50% of the incomming, that would be a heavy blow even to the side who is winning, due to it increasing moral on the vom/nar side and decreasing it in the weet side.
at best guess if nar/vom could hit 15 galaxies of there primary target and cover them fully so it will hurt there target a lot, they would have acheived a far greater goal than half arsedly hitting 50 galaxies, simply because those 15 gals who get hit perhaps 5 would get covered the other 10 would be left to dry they would taste defeat and it would lower there confidence in there alliance.
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I can see that you understand that WEET are not serious about turning this round back into a game. Having shaken loose a few more targets from their super block, you are saying that the worst they are now risking is for half their members to receive incoming...and even then only if the co-ordination between all of its officially declared enemies is good enough.
..half their members...
..and a whole 15 galaxies...
How interesting to hear your risk analysis.
Trin
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Originally posted by TrinTara
I can see that you understand that WEET are not serious about turning this round back into a game. Having shaken loose a few more targets from their super block, you are saying that the worst they are now risking is for half their members to receive incoming...and even then only if the co-ordination between all of its officially declared enemies is good enough.
..half their members...
..and a whole 15 galaxies...
How interesting to hear your risk analysis.
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How interesting to hear your bitter untruths.
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How interesting to hear your bitter untruths.
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Bitter? Not at all. Rather I was amused or perhaps bemused is a better description.
WEET must have been trembling under their beds at the dire predictions of 15 galaxies being hit (which if you bother to read the whole post in context, were numbers suggested by Morden, not by myself)
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