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Unread 1 Jul 2021, 10:59   #1
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Ding Dong Ding - the Killing of PA

So sad and really angry about what is happening and expect to see the normal troll comments about tears etc. because this is the stock standard response you get from bullies.

How can any of you let QQ go on the way they are?

Really tired of the mercenary way they operate. Is gonna be hard to keep people playing and we are only small alliance and the people we are trying to keep playing are actually not the ones that have been fc'd.

So, chalk one up for the bullies.

I don't want to hear anything about stop your crying, this is a war game.... well, no it's not anymore if this is how it's going to be and of course, will just be a case of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.

Fair enough one fc was in retaliation, but the other ones being set up by those being attacked are just totally unreasonable. This is cheating as far as I am concerned. It is also farming on an extreme level.

Those that have organised these fc's should also be ashamed of themselves having such a win at all costs attitude.

You do realise tags like ours aren't any threat to your damn pwin. Not that I think there is any difference if we were one of the top tags. It is despicable any way you look at it.

Today, one of our guys got told not to send our fr to one of the top alliances as they were feeding fr ships to QQ. So, here we have another alliance that we pretty much will be forced not to galraid, yet they send attacks on us fairly consistently. Made me feel ill to have read the message about this.

How many other alliances or individuals have done deals with these bullies?

Afterall, they have been advertising enough for you to contact them to offer up VULNERABLE ships.

The ones that have been fc'd are pretty much forced to now play as defence planets. All that crap those fools spouted about cheats, etc. being a reason they were doing this, well, think that was a load of bull.

As much as we would love to return the favour, we just don't have the activity in numbers to do it.

Admins, you need to address this gameplay if you want to keep your player base. It's not fun and makes it just a waste of time building up your fleet and alliance to lose it to this type of gameplay.

Okay... think that's it..... <nervously chews fingernails>.
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Unread 1 Jul 2021, 21:44   #2
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Re: Ding Dong Ding - the Killing of PA

Funny. The ones fighting corruption in the game are now what they sought to eradicate.

To offer some clarification on one instance. I (Stellar) attacked a CT planet in a standard attack raid that included 2:10:4 (nick Forest). He was sitting on a juicy 1700 roids. On the day there were some double bookings on him and his gal and ally were doing well covering other waves. My attack partner and I got through. Landed. I was fleetcaught, not by CT but by Blueballs (QQ/Victims etc.). My race is Xan. There was no way they'd know my full fleet was there unless Forest gave them the landing info. Blueballs stole my entire Fr fleet (65k of them, RIP pilots).

So it looks like he was salty losing roids and cried to QQ to get some sort of cowardly vengeance. Our HCs chat with QQ seems to agree with this assumption.

While it probably isn't really cheating, this sort of activity is really concerning. I hope QQ re-evaluate their position within the game. Luckily it's a chill round for me but probably not most the other people you FC regularly. It can drive people from the game, we are already struggling with player base. I can understand FCs to police the game and FCs when they are in retaliation on attacks on you as a strategy but it's a whole different thing to be a 3rd party merc for anyone who wants some easy revenge after losing a few rocks.
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Re: Ding Dong Ding - the Killing of PA

We sold all your FR cowkie. and Wendy this doesn't stop being a war game and turn into a big corporation because you're upset.

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Re: Ding Dong Ding - the Killing of PA

Wendy can you please specify the violated terms to make a fleetcatch cheating and farming and tell us how the admins of this game reacted to it ?

other then that. feed us fleets, and we're busy with ****ing up other fleets.

Cowkimon, you were lucky it was only your FR,
look what juicy land we had today: https://game.planetarion.com/show_ne...xzdsg6ea3d6fwi

thats his entire fleet. gone. because he roided us and thats how we defend ourself.

regarding the deals ... wasnt it your alliance begging on their knees to sign some deal ?

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Re: Ding Dong Ding - the Killing of PA

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So sad and really angry about what is happening and expect to see the normal troll comments about tears etc. because this is the stock standard response you get from bullies.

How can any of you let QQ go on the way they are?

Really tired of the mercenary way they operate. Is gonna be hard to keep people playing and we are only small alliance and the people we are trying to keep playing are actually not the ones that have been fc'd.

So, chalk one up for the bullies.

I don't want to hear anything about stop your crying, this is a war game.... well, no it's not anymore if this is how it's going to be and of course, will just be a case of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.

Fair enough one fc was in retaliation, but the other ones being set up by those being attacked are just totally unreasonable. This is cheating as far as I am concerned. It is also farming on an extreme level.

Those that have organised these fc's should also be ashamed of themselves having such a win at all costs attitude.

You do realise tags like ours aren't any threat to your damn pwin. Not that I think there is any difference if we were one of the top tags. It is despicable any way you look at it.

Today, one of our guys got told not to send our fr to one of the top alliances as they were feeding fr ships to QQ. So, here we have another alliance that we pretty much will be forced not to galraid, yet they send attacks on us fairly consistently. Made me feel ill to have read the message about this.

How many other alliances or individuals have done deals with these bullies?

Afterall, they have been advertising enough for you to contact them to offer up VULNERABLE ships.

The ones that have been fc'd are pretty much forced to now play as defence planets. All that crap those fools spouted about cheats, etc. being a reason they were doing this, well, think that was a load of bull.

As much as we would love to return the favour, we just don't have the activity in numbers to do it.

Admins, you need to address this gameplay if you want to keep your player base. It's not fun and makes it just a waste of time building up your fleet and alliance to lose it to this type of gameplay.

Okay... think that's it..... <nervously chews fingernails>.
Oh gosh where do I begin, so many false statements it's hard to know where to start
Firstly you call us bullies, with a few exceptions most of our players are smaller in size/score than yours and we are the smaller tag , you hit smaller players/tag that makes you the bully not us
Secondly everyone and stooms mum know our defensive stratedy is to fleetcatch or lolwave hostile planets/tags, this is not exclusive to the hostile planets their actions mean everyone in their tag is a valid target
So this gives you two options
Option A don't attack us
Option B give us targets to fleetcatch/lolwave.
You have then gone on to say that planets that have been fleetcaught are now forced to become def planets, I'm going to have to capitalize this to make my point
THIS IS UTTER BULLSHIT PLANETS WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY FLEETCAUGHT HAVE FINISHED TOP 5/10
So that disproves your tearful "we can't play if you take away our ships"

You get salvage for killed ships,
you already have an income to replace the lost ships and if you are lucky enough to be in an alliance that gives a shit about its members then you also have the option to donate funds and give escorts to boost income
We are not the reason the game is dying a very slow death, that's a combination of piss poor admin/no proper game development / shit multihunters who won't close cheaters because they threaten legal action (that this is true is hilarious) /cowardly alliances who refuse to look fight and seek private and public naps and avoidance deals

the reason the other allys don't do anything is simple fear, they are worried about personal/tag score they don't want to deal with us because we are a right royal pain in the arse, we're unorthodox unpredictable and probably bat shit insane, we land attacks that should not land by any stretch of the imagination and recall attacks that should land
You can't beat us with conventional gameplay because we don't play conventionally

Replying with phone means this looks like shit so I will apologise for that but nothing else
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Re: Ding Dong Ding - the Killing of PA

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We sold all your FR cowkie. and Wendy this doesn't stop being a war game and turn into a big corporation because you're upset.
You think I'm the only one upset.... I am just the idiot trying to put it out there about how wrong this is and how it was an enjoyable war game prior to this as a distraction from our busy real lives
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Re: Ding Dong Ding - the Killing of PA

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So sad and really angry about what is happening and expect to see the normal troll comments about tears etc. because this is the stock standard response you get from bullies.

How can any of you let QQ go on the way they are?
An excellent question.

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Really tired of the mercenary way they operate. Is gonna be hard to keep people playing and we are only small alliance and the people we are trying to keep playing are actually not the ones that have been fc'd.
Whats the problem then?

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So, chalk one up for the bullies.
Perhaps...

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I don't want to hear anything about stop your crying, this is a war game.... well, no it's not anymore
Except it is a war game. How is it not anymore?

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if this is how it's going to be and of course, will just be a case of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.
Please explain this part as we are all perplexed...


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Fair enough one fc was in retaliation, but the other ones being set up by those being attacked are just totally unreasonable. This is cheating as far as I am concerned. It is also farming on an extreme level.
It is not cheating or farming. Re-read the rules.

Understanding the rules also helps. Fiery has repeatedly stated that FC will not be "nerfed" or "removed" and is a legitimate tactic.

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Those that have organised these fc's should also be ashamed of themselves having such a win at all costs attitude.
We're not "winning" the game, and the cost is free the last few rounds...

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You do realise tags like ours aren't any threat to your damn pwin.
We're not trying for pwin...

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Today, one of our guys got told not to send our fr to one of the top alliances as they were feeding fr ships to QQ. So, here we have another alliance that we pretty much will be forced not to galraid, yet they send attacks on us fairly consistently. Made me feel ill to have read the message about this.

How many other alliances or individuals have done deals with these bullies?
Another excellent question!

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Afterall, they have been advertising enough for you to contact them to offer up VULNERABLE ships.
It has worked remarkably well for several rounds now.

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The ones that have been fc'd are pretty much forced to now play as defence planets
They can scan, covop, or play 1-2 ship build defense/escort planets just fine.

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All that crap those fools spouted about cheats, etc. being a reason they were doing this, well, think that was a load of bull.
No, it really wasn't. We took the "law" into our own hands because PA Team wouldn't--for several rounds in a row--and nothing changed on their end, or on the end of any other alliance in the game to stop harboring cheaters and supporting them.

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As much as we would love to return the favour, we just don't have the activity in numbers to do it.
Perhaps merge with another group and have better odds at whatever your goals are.

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Admins, you need to address this gameplay if you want to keep your player base. It's not fun and makes it just a waste of time building up your fleet and alliance to lose it to this type of gameplay.
They tried that with the salvage bonus, and it exploded in their face because of back-end issues with the code from what I understand. I touched on this point earlier.

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Funny. The ones fighting corruption in the game are now what they sought to eradicate.
Please explain, because I'm failing to see any corruption on our end.

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To offer some clarification on one instance. I (Stellar) attacked a CT planet in a standard attack raid that included 2:10:4 (nick Forest). He was sitting on a juicy 1700 roids. On the day there were some double bookings on him and his gal and ally were doing well covering other waves. My attack partner and I got through. Landed. I was fleetcaught, not by CT but by Blueballs (QQ/Victims etc.). My race is Xan. There was no way they'd know my full fleet was there unless Forest gave them the landing info. Blueballs stole my entire Fr fleet (65k of them, RIP pilots).
Sounds like you got sold out because Forest was mad for getting roided. He wanted revenge, and he got it. It's called meta-gaming. Google it.

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So it looks like he was salty losing roids and cried to QQ to get some sort of cowardly vengeance. Our HCs chat with QQ seems to agree with this assumption.
Sounds about right. We did lolwave and land him once, if not twice though, so who knows.

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While it probably isn't really cheating, this sort of activity is really concerning. I hope QQ re-evaluate their position within the game.
Why would we? What we're doing is working just fine. There's more to this, but we'll get to it eventually I'm sure...

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Luckily it's a chill round for me but probably not most the other people you FC regularly.
We don't FC the same people on a regular basis, generally speaking...

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It can drive people from the game, we are already struggling with player base.I can understand FCs to police the game and FCs when they are in retaliation on attacks on you as a strategy but it's a whole different thing to be a 3rd party merc for anyone who wants some easy revenge after losing a few rocks.
I'll address this in one go, since it does sort of merge together as one point.

It can drive people from the game. The player base is struggling.

FC to police the game...again, we've done our part. See my earlier point on this.

Finally, we aren't a mercenary group for anyone this round. No Wheel, no "pay for recall" deals, etc.

The charity we donated all the money to has repeatedly expressed their gratitude, so I'll just reiterate that here for those who were unaware...and a big thanks to those who donated without knowing it was going to charity and not a truck full of gin.
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Re: Ding Dong Ding - the Killing of PA

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Wendy can you please specify the violated terms to make a fleetcatch cheating and farming and tell us how the admins of this game reacted to it ?

other then that. feed us fleets, and we're busy with ****ing up other fleets.

Cowkimon, you were lucky it was only your FR,
look what juicy land we had today: https://game.planetarion.com/show_ne...xzdsg6ea3d6fwi

thats his entire fleet. gone. because he roided us and thats how we defend ourself.

regarding the deals ... wasnt it your alliance begging on their knees to sign some deal ?

really wondering about this posting. btw. if you wanna chitchat we've got a nice telegram channel,
go check it out: https://t.me/WEFUELOURSHIPSWITHYOURTEARS
I did state that it was my view and not according to any terms....

I have also stated that it is not the retaliation fc's I am referring to.

As far as the guys asking for you to lay off, I actually hate that we were resorted to this but realising that morale in ally is dropping, this was what the guys needed to do politically. So, you guys in claiming that one of your objections is to Naptarion are forcing us to actually having to silently Nap and do not forget you also requested that we hit Peng to have this lay off.

Guessing you all have Dictatorship governments.. lol

I wear my heart on my sleeve and deeply care about our alliance and the people in it... so I make no apologies for voicing my opinions about it all.
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Re: Ding Dong Ding - the Killing of PA

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As far as the guys asking for you to lay off, I actually hate that we were resorted to this but realising that morale in ally is dropping, this was what the guys needed to do politically. So, you guys in claiming that one of your objections is to Naptarion are forcing us to actually having to silently Nap and do not forget you also requested that we hit Peng to have this lay off.
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wait, what?
hate that you resorted to what? ptargeting us than feeling the wrath?
You needed to ptarget a smaller alliance that doesn't defend to raise your guys morale?
then you cried that the smaller alliance ****ing owned your shit tag that was demoralized already by poor misguided HC?
then you thought hiding naptarion would shield you from the naptarion woes?
then admitted it here on this thread?
good thing this is text because I am speechless...
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I hope QQ re-evaluate their position within the game. Luckily it's a chill round for me but probably not most the other people you FC regularly. It can drive people from the game, we are already struggling with player base. I can understand FCs to police the game and FCs when they are in retaliation on attacks on you as a strategy but it's a whole different thing to be a 3rd party merc for anyone who wants some easy revenge after losing a few rocks.
The thing that the term 'mercenary' doesn't take into account is that HEROES has agency. We're not passive puppets who would just as gladly do something else if that suited some people better.

We're not FCing because our lord and master Forest told us to, but because we really enjoy doing it. Big waves are fun. Big breps are fun. Waiting around at xx:59 to avoid counter-FCs is fun. Even calcing a big battle is fun... occasionally. These are the reasons we do what we do, not because we're desperate to suck Forest off.

If people want to feed us juicy fleets, cool, that saves us the effort of finding a target of our own. However, if we don't get offered a good target, the only thing that would change is that we would find and FC some other fleet.
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Re: Ding Dong Ding - the Killing of PA

just some muppets who are short sighted and don't realise what they are doing to the game ... I should know I made a few 1up c*nts emo from being FCed back in r18 ... Yes I had fun till I realised they stopped playing
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Haha, so many tears about such a small problem...
People still haven't understood how QQ operates.

1. Has your ally attacked them?
--> don't complain about being FCed. For the whole round, taking roids from an ally that doesn't defend costs this ally more value than one FCed fleet. Offense and FCs are their defense. So whenever you cry about a QQ FC, please complain to your ally mates going for the "easy roids".

2. Is being FCed ending your round?
--> Nope. Wolf crashed his whole fleet and got FCed twice and ended top3.

3. Is it unfair to be FCed?
--> Yep, definitely sometimes nice people are being hit. But please see question 1.

4. Is QQ killing the game?
--> surely not. The last 30 rounds have been full of deal breaking, naptarion to boredom, 6vs1 preround blocks, gangbangs, escorts for #1 and constant cheating. I see no one complaining about sparks, cardi, cba, zwandick or the whole ODDR cheater gang. But sure, you wanna blame a 20 ppl tag for ruining the game? Honestly? Wasn't stellar napped to app for whole rounds?

This game has more serious problems. If you helped solving them, you can still cry about a 20 ppl fun tag...

Another note: how many ppl crash their fleet in attacks every round? Do you also have the whole tag whining for days when that happens? Is it also round ending and causing 5 ppl to "never play this game again"? I don't think so...

So while I agree that being FCed isn't nice, you still get 40-60% of the fleet back via salvage. And if a planet ends rank80 or rank120 in the end doesn't really matter.

So please don't try to blame a single alliance for the low morale of your player base. There are several reasons that need to be addressed first.
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Re: Ding Dong Ding - the Killing of PA

while it probably isnt considered cheating....

passing on information to other alliances to perform fleet catches because your alliance cant muster up the strength to do it yourself

it's a pretty lowlife scumbag thing to do

personally i do think it goes against the character of the game
an NAP is just that.. non aggression it doesnt say anything about sharing intel
i do think there should be a rule against it

and blueball actually openly advertising it
they are just the guy on the soccer field that takes a dive and pretends to be hurt to get a penalty

in all honesty blueball should be taught a lesson
all alliances should gang up on blueball and just hammer them into oblivion
all alliances should have that friendly agreement with each other
it really is a low life act
even if it is within the rules of the game.
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Posting anonymously does not speak well for the strength of your convictions, 'arandomguy'.
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its the internet... we are all anonymous
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all alliances should gang up on blueball and just hammer them into oblivion
all alliances should have that friendly agreement with each other
Please, by all means, make this happen.
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The last 30 rounds have been full of deal breaking, naptarion to boredom, 6vs1 preround blocks, gangbangs, escorts for #1 and constant cheating. I see no one complaining about sparks, cardi, cba, zwandick or the whole ODDR cheater gang.
Those who know me know I've been fighting against those things for a long time as well. If I cared a bit more right now, this is where it'd sting deep.

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Wasn't stellar napped to app for whole rounds?
Pretty sure this is a no. I've been away for a year so can't speak on recent rounds. Before though app have ruined our chances for ally wins organising big blocks on us so would be amazed this sort of thing happened, plus the whole mingling with cheaters thing ewww. Happy to be corrected though. If we have been at some stage in past year while I 've been gone I'll give HCs a slap ^^. Naptarion is f-ing boring I agree 100%.

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Sad my FR was sold in the end. What a waste of invisibility paint. That stuff ain't cheap!

I get the meta-gaming, I get you love big battles and the adrenaline. Just be aware a lot of players, usually the new ones, can be heavily time invested into a round, especially if they make t100 or even t25. To wipe a fleet in a random manner i.e. not a retal, can be almost soul destroying. Also, to say it has no change on the outcome of a planet's performance is a stretch. Using examples like Wolf is meaningless as he uses dedicated escorts, which an average player or teamup wouldn't.

We all need to make sure the game is a good environment for new/returning players. So please let's try to choose targets wisely. This round is full of FCs and there's bound to be repercussions from this sort of environment.

I am putting most of blame for my loss onto Forest and more generally anyone feeding this "meta-gaming" information for their personal gain, which seems to be for a sore ego in this case. Forest, if you are reading, that sort of behaviour was really cold blooded. *Smack*.

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I am putting most of blame for my loss onto Forest and more generally anyone feeding this "meta-gaming" information for their personal gain, which seems to be for a sore ego in this case. Forest, if you are reading, that sort of behaviour was really cold blooded. *Smack*.
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I tried this once, it didnt work out very well for me.

I find it easier if you just bend the knee.
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I tried this once, it didnt work out very well for me.

I find it easier if you just bend the knee.
Bending the knee can help.
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I can't believe that experienced players not willing to spend time playing conventionally would find an asymmetric way of playing. Unfair.
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I can't believe that experienced players not willing to spend time playing conventionally would find an asymmetric way of playing. Unfair.
We like to compare it with guerrilla warfare.
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Having played this game for many years, I have seen it transform from the way it started which was all our war, but with 1000's against each other and 3 full tags each, to a 1v1 war game where if another ally joined they would both team up and take down the poachers.

You used to protect the alliance that lost the war by attacking anyone that tried to feed off them...

The more recent rounds are based around about 10 players who control everything, it's quite a strange concept really.

One ally per "Block" is chosen at the start of the round and all of the others rally around them to try and get them the win, no-one attacks solo, trolls are everywhere who are basically here to ruin other peoples round -

QQ/Bluebells, that's you... tiered of the status quo so take out your anger by FCing random players to annoy them.

Being FC is part of the game, check your landings, or if like me you pick BS, expect to be FC at some point, tough luck and get on with it.

Most annoying thing for me in this game is the block warfare that this game has become, no-one dare fight a 1v1 anymore
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a 1v1 war game where if another ally joined they would both team up and take down the poachers.
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You used to protect the alliance that lost the war by attacking anyone that tried to feed off them...
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Diplomacy and blocking is practically what defines Planetarion, but you're presenting it 1) as a problem to be solved, and 2) as something that hasn't been a part of PA since it's early days:

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The build-up for Round 3 began with the two victorious alliances of Round 2, Fury and Legion, allying themselves with ReBorn, with whom they had friendly relations towards the end of the round, to form a block which became known as The Triad. This block was supposedly opposed by STEL, which consisted of a number of alliances formed out of the remnants of WaC the previous round, Sedition, Elysium and LOST, alongside The Empire.
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Going into Round 4 this block continued the previous round's Legion vs WP/Fury war. During the break between rounds WP and Fury stuck together, and with BlueTuba joining in the early stages of the round (and to a lesser extent the smaller alliances hirr and Quha, with ViruS joining much later on) to form WTF.
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The two most prominent alliances from Round 4, Xanadu and NoS, had agreed upon an alliance at the end of the round for Round 5, with CELL, forming what become known as the NoCeX block. Needing to build a block capable of dealing with this Fury and Legion took their former allies Elysium, Wolfpack, BlueTuba and ViruS with them, creating the WTFVE block, despite the efforts of some.
In particular, note the two strongest alliances in the winning block of round 5 turning on their weaker allies rather than fighting each other. How are those rose tinted glasses? Still working?



No, I think I liked my 2 'lol's better after all. Very consise, I thought.
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Fight fire with fire. If the other guy buys a bigger stick then buy a bigger stick yourself.

It is annoying though.
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Having played this game for many years, I have seen it transform from the way it started which was all our war, but with 1000's against each other and 3 full tags each, to a 1v1 war game where if another ally joined they would both team up and take down the poachers.

You used to protect the alliance that lost the war by attacking anyone that tried to feed off them...

The more recent rounds are based around about 10 players who control everything, it's quite a strange concept really.

One ally per "Block" is chosen at the start of the round and all of the others rally around them to try and get them the win, no-one attacks solo, trolls are everywhere who are basically here to ruin other peoples round -

QQ/Bluebells, that's you... tiered of the status quo so take out your anger by FCing random players to annoy them.

Being FC is part of the game, check your landings, or if like me you pick BS, expect to be FC at some point, tough luck and get on with it.

Most annoying thing for me in this game is the block warfare that this game has become, no-one dare fight a 1v1 anymore
Fairly sure its not a dare question, but it pays back only if its non equal battle, otherwise inc free deffing your quest roids pay back better... sadly so...

QQ are pathetic bullies with low selfesteem. Get a life or start playing. Anyone can play a troll game, VGN did it just 10x better. �� Also with zero attention whoring bs.
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Haha, so many tears about such a small problem...
People still haven't understood how QQ operates.

1. Has your ally attacked them?
--> don't complain about being FCed. For the whole round, taking roids from an ally that doesn't defend costs this ally more value than one FCed fleet. Offense and FCs are their defense. So whenever you cry about a QQ FC, please complain to your ally mates going for the "easy roids".

2. Is being FCed ending your round?
--> Nope. Wolf crashed his whole fleet and got FCed twice and ended top3.

3. Is it unfair to be FCed?
--> Yep, definitely sometimes nice people are being hit. But please see question 1.

4. Is QQ killing the game?
--> surely not. The last 30 rounds have been full of deal breaking, naptarion to boredom, 6vs1 preround blocks, gangbangs, escorts for #1 and constant cheating. I see no one complaining about sparks, cardi, cba, zwandick or the whole ODDR cheater gang. But sure, you wanna blame a 20 ppl tag for ruining the game? Honestly? Wasn't stellar napped to app for whole rounds?

This game has more serious problems. If you helped solving them, you can still cry about a 20 ppl fun tag...

Another note: how many ppl crash their fleet in attacks every round? Do you also have the whole tag whining for days when that happens? Is it also round ending and causing 5 ppl to "never play this game again"? I don't think so...

So while I agree that being FCed isn't nice, you still get 40-60% of the fleet back via salvage. And if a planet ends rank80 or rank120 in the end doesn't really matter.

So please don't try to blame a single alliance for the low morale of your player base. There are several reasons that need to be addressed first.

Dorf u are way better than this sank pathetic qq stuff. Really bro. Whats up?
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Bending the knee can help.

Tought u just bent a knee to TS.
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So sad and really angry about what is happening and expect to see the normal troll comments about tears etc. because this is the stock standard response you get from bullies.

How can any of you let QQ go on the way they are?

Really tired of the mercenary way they operate. Is gonna be hard to keep people playing and we are only small alliance and the people we are trying to keep playing are actually not the ones that have been fc'd.

So, chalk one up for the bullies.

I don't want to hear anything about stop your crying, this is a war game.... well, no it's not anymore if this is how it's going to be and of course, will just be a case of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.

Fair enough one fc was in retaliation, but the other ones being set up by those being attacked are just totally unreasonable. This is cheating as far as I am concerned. It is also farming on an extreme level.

Those that have organised these fc's should also be ashamed of themselves having such a win at all costs attitude.

You do realise tags like ours aren't any threat to your damn pwin. Not that I think there is any difference if we were one of the top tags. It is despicable any way you look at it.

Today, one of our guys got told not to send our fr to one of the top alliances as they were feeding fr ships to QQ. So, here we have another alliance that we pretty much will be forced not to galraid, yet they send attacks on us fairly consistently. Made me feel ill to have read the message about this.

How many other alliances or individuals have done deals with these bullies?

Afterall, they have been advertising enough for you to contact them to offer up VULNERABLE ships.

The ones that have been fc'd are pretty much forced to now play as defence planets. All that crap those fools spouted about cheats, etc. being a reason they were doing this, well, think that was a load of bull.

As much as we would love to return the favour, we just don't have the activity in numbers to do it.

Admins, you need to address this gameplay if you want to keep your player base. It's not fun and makes it just a waste of time building up your fleet and alliance to lose it to this type of gameplay.

Okay... think that's it..... <nervously chews fingernails>.
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Tought u just bent a knee to TS.
Err lol? How exactly? We have FC'ed quite a few of their fleets. How exactly did we bent the knee? I am not seeing it.
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Time to let go of the school yard m8.
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Wow, people are still playing this game?

Absurd.
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Wow, people are still playing this game?

Absurd.

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