[Cochese]

Originally Posted by Wendyms

So sad and really angry about what is happening and expect to see the normal troll comments about tears etc. because this is the stock standard response you get from bullies.

How can any of you let QQ go on the way they are?

An excellent question.

Really tired of the mercenary way they operate. Is gonna be hard to keep people playing and we are only small alliance and the people we are trying to keep playing are actually not the ones that have been fc'd.

Whats the problem then?

So, chalk one up for the bullies.

Perhaps...

I don't want to hear anything about stop your crying, this is a war game.... well, no it's not anymore

Except it is a war game. How is it not anymore?

if this is how it's going to be and of course, will just be a case of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.

Please explain this part as we are all perplexed...

Fair enough one fc was in retaliation, but the other ones being set up by those being attacked are just totally unreasonable. This is cheating as far as I am concerned. It is also farming on an extreme level.

It is not cheating or farming. Re-read the rules.

Understanding the rules also helps. Fiery has repeatedly stated that FC will not be "nerfed" or "removed" and is a legitimate tactic.

Those that have organised these fc's should also be ashamed of themselves having such a win at all costs attitude.

We're not "winning" the game, and the cost is free the last few rounds...

You do realise tags like ours aren't any threat to your damn pwin.

We're not trying for pwin...

Today, one of our guys got told not to send our fr to one of the top alliances as they were feeding fr ships to QQ. So, here we have another alliance that we pretty much will be forced not to galraid, yet they send attacks on us fairly consistently. Made me feel ill to have read the message about this.

How many other alliances or individuals have done deals with these bullies?

Another excellent question!

Afterall, they have been advertising enough for you to contact them to offer up VULNERABLE ships.

It has worked remarkably well for several rounds now.

The ones that have been fc'd are pretty much forced to now play as defence planets

They can scan, covop, or play 1-2 ship build defense/escort planets just fine.

All that crap those fools spouted about cheats, etc. being a reason they were doing this, well, think that was a load of bull.

No, it really wasn't. We took the "law" into our own hands because PA Team wouldn't--for several rounds in a row--and nothing changed on their end, or on the end of any other alliance in the game to stop harboring cheaters and supporting them.

As much as we would love to return the favour, we just don't have the activity in numbers to do it.

Perhaps merge with another group and have better odds at whatever your goals are.

Admins, you need to address this gameplay if you want to keep your player base. It's not fun and makes it just a waste of time building up your fleet and alliance to lose it to this type of gameplay.

They tried that with the salvage bonus, and it exploded in their face because of back-end issues with the code from what I understand. I touched on this point earlier.

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Originally Posted by Cowkimon

Funny. The ones fighting corruption in the game are now what they sought to eradicate.

Please explain, because I'm failing to see any corruption on our end.

To offer some clarification on one instance. I (Stellar) attacked a CT planet in a standard attack raid that included 2:10:4 (nick Forest). He was sitting on a juicy 1700 roids. On the day there were some double bookings on him and his gal and ally were doing well covering other waves. My attack partner and I got through. Landed. I was fleetcaught, not by CT but by Blueballs (QQ/Victims etc.). My race is Xan. There was no way they'd know my full fleet was there unless Forest gave them the landing info. Blueballs stole my entire Fr fleet (65k of them, RIP pilots).

Sounds like you got sold out because Forest was mad for getting roided. He wanted revenge, and he got it. It's called meta-gaming. Google it.

So it looks like he was salty losing roids and cried to QQ to get some sort of cowardly vengeance. Our HCs chat with QQ seems to agree with this assumption.

Sounds about right. We did lolwave and land him once, if not twice though, so who knows.

While it probably isn't really cheating, this sort of activity is really concerning. I hope QQ re-evaluate their position within the game.

Why would we? What we're doing is working just fine. There's more to this, but we'll get to it eventually I'm sure...

Luckily it's a chill round for me but probably not most the other people you FC regularly.

We don't FC the same people on a regular basis, generally speaking...

It can drive people from the game, we are already struggling with player base.I can understand FCs to police the game and FCs when they are in retaliation on attacks on you as a strategy but it's a whole different thing to be a 3rd party merc for anyone who wants some easy revenge after losing a few rocks.

I'll address this in one go, since it does sort of merge together as one point.

It can drive people from the game. The player base is struggling.

FC to police the game...again, we've done our part. See my earlier point on this.

Finally, we aren't a mercenary group for anyone this round. No Wheel, no "pay for recall" deals, etc.

The charity we donated all the money to has repeatedly expressed their gratitude, so I'll just reiterate that here for those who were unaware...and a big thanks to those who donated without knowing it was going to charity and not a truck full of gin.