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Unread 5 May 2005, 22:06   #1
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[UK] Election Results

This is now the official Election 2005 results thread.

Who's watching? About 40mins to 1st results (probably Sunderland South).

The BBC exit poll has Labour's majority cut to 66.

So discuss results here!
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Re: [UK] Election Results

Im hoping that labour get a kicking but not a kicking to the extent the tories are let in. The beeb just said the majority is down to 66, id like it down a little more. My feelings are that this was an anti tony vote not an anti labour one, if mr blair doesn't run the next election most people will go back to labour. Even more so if scary vampire man stays with the tories.
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Re: [UK] Election Results

Lib Dem have won!!!
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Re: [UK] Election Results

This is the best results at a glance I've found.
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Re: [UK] Election Results

Yeah I'm watching, hoping the Labour majority goes down to 40-50 or so.
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When i filled out my voting slips today, they made us do it in soft pencil, so if who i voted for doesn't win i'm gonna go in there and shout "Shinanigans!" :/
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Re: [UK] Election Results

Wish I could have voted for Mad Cow Girl Warrior in Sunderland South - she looked great!
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Heh, i see there's an Independent running in Oxford East called "Honest Blair".
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Re: [UK] Election Results

is the bbc site, like, slooow ?
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Re: [UK] Election Results

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is the bbc site, like, slooow ?
Yes.

Also, does anyone know how good exit polls are at predicting results? Are they generally skewed any particular way (I know normal polls are biased against the Tories)?
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(except MORI who are biased in favour)
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exit polls are only good at predicting votes in safe seats.
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Re: [UK] Election Results

OMRLP for Sunderland South!
I'm hoping we get The Druid(can't remember his name, something Pendragon) in my constituency! (Winchester)
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exit polls are only good at predicting votes in safe seats.
So, pretty useless then?
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Re: [UK] Election Results

I don't understand why on BBC1 it says labour has 4 seats so far, but on ITV it says they have 11
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BBC is doing the actual ones called, I think ITV is doing it like America, or at least they said that they would call them after they were counted.

15-0 now.
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Isn't it 12-1 Labour - Conservative or am i misreading something in my inebriated state?
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ITV is calling the seats from when they get the result, BBC waits until its been called officially. Its better to watch the official result!

Consevative just won their first marginal...

Lib Dem lost one of their marginals it swung 11%!!! but still 3000 majority for Labour. damn labour.

Exit Polls are pretty useless in our election system, yes.
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Re: [UK] Election Results

2009 election will be close I feel.
3 way tie?
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Lib Dem lost one of their marginals it swung 11%!!! but still 3000 majority for Labour. damn labour.
that's still a hugely impressive swing to the lib dems in newcastle, even if they didnt win it.
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Re: [UK] Election Results

massive swings away from Labour.
They've won their safest seats so far.

Letwin and Davis might lose their seats which would be funny
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4 or 5% is not massive to be honest

iirc the swing TO Labour in '97 was over 10%

Anyhoo.


[Edit] Also it's swinging to the Libs except for in Lab/Con marginals

OOOOH it's exciting!

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Re: [UK] Election Results

I think Letwin might, well fingers crossed.
Lets hope Galloway doesn't get in.
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4 or 5% is not massive to be honest

iirc the swing TO Labour in '97 was over 10%

Anyhoo.


[Edit] Also it's swinging to the Libs except for in Lab/Con marginals

OOOOH it's exciting!

Why do I have to work tomorrow/?!?
11% swing from Labour to Lib dem is significant though.

Lib dem HAVE to win seats from Labour!

I also agree it is exciting! Elections rock! Although i'm getting hungry!
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it wouldnt be so exciting if it was just another 2001, but yeah this is a lot better!
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Die David Die.

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he was vastly more interesting the John Prescott.
but thats not difficult....
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Re: [UK] Election Results

Nottingham election:
Name Party Votes % +/- %
John Heppell Labour 13,787 45.8 -13.2
Issan Ghazni Liberal Democrat 6,848 22.8 +9.8
Jim Thornton Conservative 6,826 22.7 -1.6

That's very significant! Massive drop for Labour and Lib Dems have overtaken Tories into 2nd.

Labour have held Sheffield Central but I can't find out the details yet.
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Re: [UK] Election Results

Woah, that Welsh one was mental!

Edit:
Sheffield Central:

Caborn got 49.9% - down 11.5%
Green got 6.0%
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Re: [UK] Election Results

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Re: [UK] Election Results

Just got back from the CIA for the Cardiff count. The Liberals were really arrogant imo. Every other seat in the area they just thanked friends and family, congratulated their opponents on a fair fight etc... Jenny Willet spent the first 5 minutes ranting against the other parties/people which just didn't seem in the spirit of things, especially considering their supposed policy of no personal attacks.
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Re: [UK] Election Results

As it stands now, Labour are well ahead.

I personally refuse to vote until there are truely distinctive political parties as there were when we had the Liberals, True Labour and True Conservatives.

Nowardays, the parties aren't parties of difference or alternative, they're about who can get one up on the other party leaders, beyond that, there policies have so much simliarity, that whoever you vote for, you'll end up witht he same policies, just worded differently and carried out differently.
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I know of the Green Party, UKIP, BNP and the independents, but whats the point in voting for a party that does not get the representation it should in our current electoral system, its going to be one of the 3 parties in power whoever we elect, until there is either a strong proportional representation system or a strong 3rd party, then I will not vote.
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3rd term for Labour
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I personally refuse to vote until there are truely distinctive political parties as there were when we had the Liberals, True Labour and True Conservatives.
and when was that exactly?

a date would help.
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well that was exciting for the first hr.... The it was just boring.

Ceredigion, my constituency went from Plaid Cymru to Ceredigion, so i went down the street and put lib dem stuff on all the nationalists cars and windows....
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It's disgraceful that labour are still in, I was with paddy kennedy all the way!
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Yes.

Also, does anyone know how good exit polls are at predicting results? Are they generally skewed any particular way (I know normal polls are biased against the Tories)?

seems the exit polls were basically right...
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The only thing I am amused by is the Bethnal Green result.

Almost everything else appears to be tiresomely predictable.
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That con man galloway got in, the opportunist bastard.
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by a hair he got in

and he was a complete twat when interviewed by paxman.

i know they will only quote his speech on the news, because i bothered to stay up all night i think i should point out what a 'nantoz' he came accross as when interviewed immediately after by paxman

the man tore off his microphone and stormed off...

with a majority of a hundred or so.

he's a complete twat.
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That con man galloway got in,
How is he a con man?

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I don't see how he's much more of a opportunist than many others in parliament.

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with a majority of a hundred or so.
The BBC gives his majority as 823 (1.9%).

In percentage terms this is a larger majority than in quite a few other seats (Croydon Central, Gravesham, Clyd West and Hemel Hempstead to pick four random examples on the current page I am looking at). It also represents a gain from nothing without a national party infrastructure behind him. It's a pretty impressive victory imho (especially since in the same constituency the anti-war Greens also got 4.4% and the Lib Dems got 11%).
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Actually Yahwe - you can watch the interview on the bbc website.

And Paxman was being a bit of a tit.
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Galloway doesn't give a toss about his constituency he is on record saying he chose it because of its local election results. He took an emotive subject and abused it.

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Great.
Another four years of Blair fagging it up. Oh well, at lest LD made gains.
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it depresses me that labour have held the entirety of the north east, but at least there was some swing to lib dem in most of the constituencies
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Galloway doesn't give a toss about his constituency he is on record saying he chose it because of its local election results. He took an emotive subject and abused it.

Unfortunately it worked.
How is it "abusing" a subject? Most of Bethnal Green were against the war. Their MP was in favour of the war. She fought a campaign against someone who was in more touch with her constituents views on the subject and lost (obviously it wasn't a one-issue campaign but it's fair to say it was the most important one in this area). And if you were an Independent candidate obviously you are going to choose a seat which most reflects your views. There's no point Scargill running in Kensington & Chelsea on a "More money for ex-miners" ticket is there?

Besides : How does that make him a conman? He was against the war. He didn't change his views to get elected. If anything his statements on record are that he is _too_ strident in some of his anti-war (pro-Iraq) views.
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With ol' gorgeous George being such an advocate of the soviet union and their ideals, arguing about Georges character and intentions with you, Dante, isn't really going to get either of us anywhere is it.
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Re: [UK] Election Results

I just want you to answer a fairly simple question tbh.

You can make claims "That conman" and then start making allusions to his support of the Soviet Union (what does that have to do with anything?) but I'm not really sure that makes a particularly good argument. OK, I get that you don't like him and that's absolutley fine, but I'm interested in hearing your argument / evidence in support of specific claims.
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