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6 Apr 2003, 22:40
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Property of merle
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Spinner : Traveltimes R10
Was just wondering, im almost positive was either Cesario(not cesarion) or Colwolf that had the idea for the 3-dimensional traveltimes, they said the idea in r5 or 6 i remember about a 4page thread on the boards about it. At that time there was also "thats such a stupid option" by the pacrew at that time. I think its a great idea, cept gal 1:1 and gal 999:99 will be in target range of the least amount of gals as your idea means the gal 500:50 will be attacked the most, or can be attacked the most.
should be based on an X,y,z axis tho, taking longer to travel to Y than it does to X, mainly as there is more gals in Y than X. and Y trave; shouldnt take that long as its basically ingal
i want a chicken
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6 Apr 2003, 23:00
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get us a poll and we'll see if it's a good or bad idea
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7 Apr 2003, 07:11
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Originally posted by Toop
get us a poll and we'll see if it's a good or bad idea
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7 Apr 2003, 07:18
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Spinner is destroying what was once a great game...
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7 Apr 2003, 09:51
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Last of the plushies
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Originally posted by ThaRat
Spinner is destroying what was once a great game...
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it never was a great game .
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7 Apr 2003, 09:56
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Originally posted by HOPupNdown
it never was a great game .
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u joined in r6 ?
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7 Apr 2003, 10:04
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Homesick
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That's sounds awfully complicated, or at least to complicated to attract large numbers of new players.
I'll take a
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7 Apr 2003, 10:17
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Last of the plushies
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Originally posted by at0mic.c0w
u joined in r6 ?
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no , round 2 .
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7 Apr 2003, 13:41
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Then you are one round late, and either stupid or ignorant..
R1/2 were awesome, and R3 was great too..
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7 Apr 2003, 14:15
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i'd think you would all welcome a vaste change, i mean fs you all complain that everything is always the same, then when they decide to change all that people do is bitch and moan.
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7 Apr 2003, 15:41
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I never complained about things being the same, Imho the game has been going downhill since R3, and I will always dislike spinner for breaking the promise that PA would always be free..
(+ I dislike him for another incident which I wont go deeper into now..)
-TheRat
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7 Apr 2003, 16:53
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Making Travel times longer will just make the game ****ter.
and i dont see more people joining a game that they have to pay to play...
even with the in-between round free period..
The Game is never gonna get over 20k now and its never gonna be as fun as the old days when u could be 2 billion in score and roid a 1 mill guy...
At least when legion and fury were around they had some fun and ****ed a lot of ppl ;P
and now weet are just sticking together it sucks and this is coming from an ely member
the game needs to get rid of power blocking .
It Prolly Wont Happen but heh...
I Dont see the point in paying when u know there will be a war but the loser of the war will quit after the first few weeks due to already being dead as the power blocks have ****edthem dry
Spinners Idea of longer travel time and a round universe thing..
i sure as hell dont wanna have 1-3 attacks a week with the big travel times coz thats what its gonna be...
1-3 attacks and even then when u get there u will arrive with about 20k defence and not get a single roid...
+ say u attack and your eta is 19..
u get a news scan at tick 17 and find there is defence or our target has produced 10k more ships than he had when u launched ...
Really people think this will work???
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7 Apr 2003, 17:27
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Originally posted by JoeyJordison
Making Travel times longer will just make the game ****ter.
and i dont see more people joining a game that they have to pay to play...
even with the in-between round free period..
The Game is never gonna get over 20k now and its never gonna be as fun as the old days when u could be 2 billion in score and roid a 1 mill guy...
At least when legion and fury were around they had some fun and ****ed a lot of ppl ;P
and now weet are just sticking together it sucks and this is coming from an ely member
the game needs to get rid of power blocking .
It Prolly Wont Happen but heh...
I Dont see the point in paying when u know there will be a war but the loser of the war will quit after the first few weeks due to already being dead as the power blocks have ****edthem dry
Spinners Idea of longer travel time and a round universe thing..
i sure as hell dont wanna have 1-3 attacks a week with the big travel times coz thats what its gonna be...
1-3 attacks and even then when u get there u will arrive with about 20k defence and not get a single roid...
+ say u attack and your eta is 19..
u get a news scan at tick 17 and find there is defence or our target has produced 10k more ships than he had when u launched ...
Really people think this will work???
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A) the max times are still being discussed, they never said it will be 36 ticks it was an example, its likely to be a lot less.
b) we dont know what other idea's have been added to balance out these effects, for all you know the game might have entirely different mechanics and allow a lot more things.
in short i dont suggest judging things until you get a clearer picture.
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7 Apr 2003, 17:44
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Originally posted by Zapman
That's sounds awfully complicated, or at least to complicated to attract large numbers of new players.
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agreed, how are we supposed to attract new players with a steep learning curve.
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7 Apr 2003, 17:53
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agreed, how are we supposed to attract new players with a steep learning curve.
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how are we supposed to attract new players when they get bashed as soon as they come out of protection?
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7 Apr 2003, 17:57
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How ARe we supposed to attract new players with the ridiculous prices? :P
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7 Apr 2003, 18:00
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How ARe we supposed to attract new players with the ridiculous prices? :P
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the details of next round havent been given out, so you have not got enough info to judge much of what is in planning thus you'll see whats going to happen once the red tape has been pulled away and you'll see how new players will be attracted.
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7 Apr 2003, 18:00
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Originally posted by ThaRat
Then you are one round late, and either stupid or ignorant..
R1/2 were awesome, and R3 was great too..
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and you are an idiot flamer ..
r3 was horrible , fury/legion raping anything that didnt
run fast enough and most other alliance werent even
half as orginized to pose a threat to them . r2 was rather
amusing , but in the total count of crap rounds , its
meaningless .
a GREAT game would be multi/bug/cheat free , with a large
community and balanced game . pa wasnt really that
massive since p2p , and god knows how many cheaters
there were in the early rounds (killmark bots anyone ?)
i much prefer wasting my money these days playing magic
online , where you can acctualy win prizes , play without
encountering cheaters , great trading system ,and a GRAPHIC
game . (oh yea , did i mention selling cards and making a profit)
that scores 9 on my ladder , the work done there is clearly
superior to whatever pa crew can EVER come up with .
a TEXT based game where people wank over how many roids
they have can score as much at 7 in my ladder . add
farming , bots , gross powerblocking and the general lameness
of people that think you are "either stupid or ignorant"
and you'll get the idea why i thought this game was never
"great" . sure it has it moments , but they are few
and far between .
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7 Apr 2003, 18:01
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Originally posted by ThaRat
Spinner is destroying what was once a great game...
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Well tbh Spinner hasn't ruined this game, two factors ruined it, p2p (due to internet adertising prices lowering) and alliances sole need to win.
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7 Apr 2003, 18:17
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Originally posted by HOPupNdown
and you are an idiot flamer ..
r3 was horrible , fury/legion raping anything that didnt
run fast enough and most other alliance werent even
half as orginized to pose a threat to them . r2 was rather
amusing , but in the total count of crap rounds , its
meaningless .
a GREAT game would be multi/bug/cheat free , with a large
community and balanced game . pa wasnt really that
massive since p2p , and god knows how many cheaters
there were in the early rounds (killmark bots anyone ?)
i much prefer wasting my money these days playing magic
online , where you can acctualy win prizes , play without
encountering cheaters , great trading system ,and a GRAPHIC
game . (oh yea , did i mention selling cards and making a profit)
that scores 9 on my ladder , the work done there is clearly
superior to whatever pa crew can EVER come up with .
a TEXT based game where people wank over how many roids
they have can score as much at 7 in my ladder . add
farming , bots , gross powerblocking and the general lameness
of people that think you are "either stupid or ignorant"
and you'll get the idea why i thought this game was never
"great" . sure it has it moments , but they are few
and far between .
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I'd rather wank over roids tbh
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7 Apr 2003, 18:51
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Originally posted by Teh_Necro
Well tbh Spinner hasn't ruined this game, two factors ruined it, p2p (due to internet adertising prices lowering) and alliances sole need to win.
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Hrm, it's sad that this day should come, but for once I agree with you..
I still think Spinner is a dickhead which has ruined what was once a game superior to all other online games (and recent competition has not ruined that status, spinner has)
Besides, what he did at TG02, I will never forget..
Spinner is a chicken****.. End of story
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Originally posted by HOPupNdown
and you are an idiot flamer ..
r3 was horrible , fury/legion raping anything that didnt
run fast enough and most other alliance werent even
half as orginized to pose a threat to them . r2 was rather
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Heh, get a grip..
Those were the days when PA was still pure fun.. Where the major power blocks could exist without the rounds ending up like this one has, because of no p2p and a massive player base, regardless of 50% might being multi planets/bots..
I would trade current pa for r2/r3 with r2/r3 servers anytime..
-TheRat
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Heh, get a grip..
Those were the days when PA was still pure fun.. Where the major power blocks could exist without the rounds ending up like this one has, because of no p2p and a massive player base, regardless of 50% might being multi planets/bots..
I would trade current pa for r2/r3 with r2/r3 servers anytime..
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its not economically viable anymore due to the reduction in payment for banners, the internet is a lot different than it was 2+ years ago.
+ this is a business not a charity.
perhaps next round will have a bit of added incentive, i mean tbh it wouldnt hurt Jolt to put a $500 prize for 1st place and perhaps $300 for 2nd and $200 for 3rd places. they would make enough to cover the cost of that if 100 more people signed up and tbh i'd expect it to gain many thousand people so they would make there money many times over.
i guess we'll see what happens next round is looking impressive as it is, if they do decent prizes the game might return to a similar situation as it was.
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7 Apr 2003, 19:14
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I agree, internet aint what it was.. Banner ads just dont work anymore, or at least minimal..
But what I wil never "forgive" spinner for (as if he cares..) is that he broke his promise to the cominute..
From round 1 through 4, he always promised us that PA would be free, always. In fact, he often said that they would close down rather than demanding payment.
Spinner: Shame on you
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