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Eat your own Shit, US !
EU says ban on growth promoting hormones is good m'kay
It doesn't take a genius to figure out that if you stick some poor moo moo full of hormones it WILL end up in the food chain with no doubt 'hilarious' and unknown results so why has there just been some fat smug wanker from the US on MY TV telling me that it's only Europe and the UK that has a problem with the policy of adding hormones ?
Surely the rest of the world isn't allowing the US to dump cheap meat on them is it ?
This is a bad year for me, first of al I decide that the whole bomb the shit out of Iraq and shoot them a bit afterwards thing was bad, now I am starting to realise that globalism (apart from Starbucks) may not be quite as nice as it seems. Wonder if Hicks has room in his teepee commune
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Re: Eat your own Shit, US !
Local coffee shops and cafes are much acer than starbucks.
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Re: Eat your own Shit, US !
Nearly everything causes cancer according to scientists. I'm not convinced.
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Shove enough fluffy bunnies up your ass and I bet you get cancer.
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The thing that really pissed me off was that I got the impression that Mr fat smug wanker was suggesting that Europe and the UK banned his dodgy meat because it was from the US and not pumped full of stuff that just shouldn't be there
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Do you think that all Americans are obese because they eat meat laced with growth hormones?
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Shove enough fluffy bunnies up your ass and I bet you get cancer.
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I'd be more worried about the hoardes of rabbits making a nest and laying eggs and what not in my rectum.
Rabbits lay eggs, right?
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Of course, why else would the Easter Bunny be hiding them.
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Re: Eat your own Shit, US !
Point 1: Starbucks is evil (and im not talking about the poster)
Point 2: According to the research i've seen following the 'healthy eating/lifestyle' advice people are given actually makes **** all difference to their life expectancy (with possibly the exception of smoking)
Point 3: The US is also getting pissed at Europe for banning their GM foods which aren't even licensed over here
Point 4: I'm not sure it's the fact we're eating fat it's that we're eating 'the wrong kind' of fat (ie from what out 'natural' diet would have been like 100 years ago).
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Point 3: The US is also getting pissed at Europe for banning their GM foods which aren't even licensed over here.
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Typical: if we tried selling aborted human foetuses there'd be uproar
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Fat is what made us smart. That is why its so important a baby receives it at youth for brain development. Its crap like Saturated Fats and and major caloire count that is makeing everyone fat not to mention bigger heffer portions.
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Glad the EU told the US to eat their own crap and stop pushing it onto us (or trying to push it onto us vis ex soviet countries).
All the crap Bush and his cronies pissed me off as well.
Horray for the EU!
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16 Oct 2003, 00:25
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Its ok, we will keep our hormoned beef. You can keep your Mad Cows.
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Re: Eat your own Shit, US !
Starbucks coffee is horse shit, mkay.
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All coffee is horse shit.
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Re: Eat your own Shit, US !
yay the EU
Im starting to think that maybe our politicans aren't TOTALLY useless after all :P
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yes, sometimes they are usefull, i dont want to eat either food full of hormones or random GM-food.
ofc, this is just a french conspiracy to protect their farmers, but anyway.
another good thing was to forget about this software patent bullshit which was also an US-idea (i mean, patents on scrollbars? wtf?)
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Re: Eat your own Shit, US !
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All coffee is horse shit.
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I typed this sentence in 0.4 seconds because I'm so hyped up on caffeine.
PS I wouldn't buy GM meat but I don't think we should totally rule it out for everyone (suppliers should definitely inform the consumer of what their product is though). Is it substantially cheaper or anything?
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Re: Eat your own Shit, US !
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I typed this sentence in 0.4 seconds because I'm so hyped up on caffeine.
PS I wouldn't buy GM meat but I don't think we should totally rule it out for everyone (suppliers should definitely inform the consumer of what their product is though). Is it substantially cheaper or anything?
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Wu_trax, are you saying that since you don't want to eat that meat, I can't? Are you saying that's a GOOD decision? I just want to make absolutely clear you didn't speak too fast, before I start considering EVERYTHING you say as ignorant tripe. Instead of just half, like up until now.
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e.g. olive oil is good where as heated olive oil is bad!
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Urban myth! Excessively heating olive oil will evaporate the alcohols and esters which make up its delicate taste and fragrance. Heating olive oil will not change its health aspects, only the flavor.
According to Dr. A. Kiritsakis, a world renowned oil chemist in Athens, (Book - OLIVE OIL FROM THE TREE TO THE TABLE -Second edition 1998), all oils will oxidize and hydrogenate to a tiny amount if repeatedly heated to very high temperatures such as is done in commercial frying operations. Fry restaurants and food factories actually have hand-held meters or do the "rancimat" test which tell them when the oil must be periodically changed because of excessive oxidation. This is more because of flavor than health.
When an oil is partially hydrogenated it can be in the cis or trans conformation which refers to which side of the fatty acid double bond the hydrogen is on. Olive pomace oil and virgin olive oil are both highly monounsaturated oils and therefore resistant to oxidation and hydrogenation. Studies have shown oxidation and hydrogenation occurs to a lesser degree in olive oil than in other oils. According to A. Kiritsakis (1998) ( Book- OLIVE OIL FROM THE TREE TO THE TABLE-Second edition), when olive oil and other vegetable oils are subjected to heating a lower amount of undesirable TRANS fatty acids are formed in olive oil than in the other oils. But in any case, the amount for any oil is miniscule and no home cook would ever experience this problem.
Nicked that off here by the way.
PS In general you're quite right on that point though.
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Re: Eat your own Shit, US !
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Surely the rest of the world isn't allowing the US to dump cheap meat on them is it ?
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Yes they are, as a matter of fact. The US exports substantial amounts of meat--Canada, Mexico, Japan and South Korea being the top recipients.
When you scratch a trade barrier hard enough, you always find protectionism.
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Re: Eat your own Shit, US !
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Glad the EU told the US to eat their own crap and stop pushing it onto us (or trying to push it onto us vis ex soviet countries).
All the crap Bush and his cronies pissed me off as well.
Horray for the EU!
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Fine, eat your own meat, since you have all those sprawling ranches in Europe.
It's especially funny that people like you call Americans ignorant.
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Re: Eat your own Shit, US !
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Its ok, we will keep our hormoned beef. You can keep your Mad Cows.
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and you can keep your E Coli
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Fine, eat your own meat, since you have all those sprawling ranches in Europe.
It's especially funny that people like you call Americans ignorant.
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We have things called Farms. Like ranches but slightly smaller
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Re: Eat your own Shit, US !
EU in protectionism shocker
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EU in protectionism shocker
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US in "selling shit and wanting to force everyone to buy it" shocker
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US in "selling shit and wanting to force everyone to buy it" shocker
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they don't 'force' anyone to buy anything, there's no gun held to consumers head making them buy US meat.
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they don't 'force' anyone to buy anything, there's no gun held to consumers head making them buy US meat.
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so why do they bleat so much about it when the EU says "we don't want your shit"
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Re: Eat your own Shit, US !
GM crops are a good idea for the staving masses of africa (I shant go into why they are starving *cough WTO, IMF), after all edible muck is better than nothing at all.
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Wu_trax, are you saying that since you don't want to eat that meat, I can't? Are you saying that's a GOOD decision? I just want to make absolutely clear you didn't speak too fast, before I start considering EVERYTHING you say as ignorant tripe. Instead of just half, like up until now.
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if the customer has a choice and these prducts are marked thats fine, but thats not possible.
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Re: Eat your own Shit, US !
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they don't 'force' anyone to buy anything, there's no gun held to consumers head making them buy US meat.
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and the meat looks different with hormones in it?
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Re: Eat your own Shit, US !
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they don't 'force' anyone to buy anything, there's no gun held to consumers head making them buy US meat.
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No but there are trade sanctions against produce from the EU and the UK because of the ban on meat with growth hormones
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Re: Eat your own Shit, US !
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if the customer has a choice and these prducts are marked thats fine, but thats not possible.
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Why not? (Because of stupid laws that's why)
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Why not? (Because of stupid laws that's why)
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and how do you make sure that within a few years not everything is mixed up and GM, even if people do not want it?
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and you can keep your E Coli
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Do you have ANY idea what E Coli is and where it comes from? Let me give you a hint, your cows have E Coli and you got E Coli in your stomach right now.
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cooool
I like GM food... as far as i can tell it tastes exactly the same, and as im a poor student type, anything that makes my food cheaper is a GOOD THING.
also, i boycott organic food, only because its expensive though.
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I was under the impression that, at the moment at least, GM crops were not significantly cheaper to grow than normal crops. Which somewhat destroys one of their main selling points.
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GM is cheaper because it resist droughts, insects, and the EU.
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But the seeds are more expensive. Or so Countryfile told me.
Damn that John Craven
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I would have thought that unless there was a monopoly type thingummy... which i dont believe there is, im no expert of course... then more food produced, by whatever means, would drive down the price in real terms.
Ive never bought my own food before the last couple of months though... so, bleh, i cant really be arsed to research anyway.
Im off back home to watch neighbours.
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No but there are trade sanctions against produce from the EU and the UK because of the ban on meat with growth hormones
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I like GM food...
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You won't be saying that when you've grown an extra arm and tusks.
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You won't be saying that when you've grown an extra arm and tusks.
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a third arm might be useful
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But the seeds are more expensive. Or so Countryfile told me.
Damn that John Craven
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True, but your crops are more likely to survie droughts, insects and just nature altoghter and they also tend to grow faster. I think a goal is two harvast of the same crop every year.
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The difference being the US's sanctions are retalitory as opposed to protectionism.
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they had no rights to impose them without a WTO-decission though.
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a third arm might be useful
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Yes, you could scratch your balls while typing on the boards.
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True, but your crops are more likely to survie droughts, insects and just nature altoghter and they also tend to grow faster. I think a goal is two harvast of the same crop every year.
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What I was aiming at was saying that the increased cost of the seeds, at the minute anyway, negates the increased yields and lower cost of fertilisers, pesticides et al.
But as I say, John Craven could be making a liar of me.
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and how do you make sure that within a few years not everything is mixed up and GM, even if people do not want it?
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Chocolate flavoured milk and strawbery flavoured milk has both been for sale here for years, right next to eachother on the shelf, without anyone getting the two mixed up.
What the **** are you talking about?
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