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Unread 21 Mar 2003, 16:10   #1
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wanted an ideology
not a religious or nationalistic one tho, i dont want buddhism (before any of you say it isnt a religion or whatever, to me it is, besides too many neo-hippies are 'into' it, its to main stream for my liking), i considered gothism, but you know, freaks.

Basically i want a group of people to hang with and call 'my hommies' they must have an organised structure with banners and flags and everything. Are any of you part of any sect/cults that you can tell me about??

ps it must be a minority one, so that i can feel extra 'special'

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Re: wanted an ideology
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not a religious or nationalistic one tho, i dont want buddhism (before any of you say it isnt a religion or whatever, to me it is, besides too many neo-hippies are 'into' it, its to main stream for my liking), i considered gothism, but you know, freaks.

Basically i want a group of people to hang with and call 'my hommies' they must have an organised structure with banners and flags and everything. Are any of you part of any sect/cults that you can tell me about??

ps it must be a minority one, so that i can feel extra 'special'

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ya but thats not really something for me to believe in is it?

Depends if you are from a 'hood' or not.
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be a rastafarian.
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Depends if you are from a 'hood' or not.
well ok, but the market for white boyz from the hood has already been cornered.
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Depends if you are from a 'hood' or not.


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be a rastafarian.
YES exactly this is the kind of thinking i want, a white rasta from London!!!!!

ill look into it

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wikkid mon.

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Re: Re: wanted an ideology
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<stuff>

Fag.
He explained his reasoning for wanting to be a part of a group perfectly well.
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Unread 21 Mar 2003, 16:34   #13
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Fag.
erm, no ta. Did think about it tho.
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are you saying fags are only fags in order to become popular and not benefit themselves in any other way (excepting constipational issues)
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Yes he wants it soley to become popular and not to benifit himself in any other way.

Hence the "fag" remark.

So if I am not completely mistaken you are taking this very seriously ?
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Unread 21 Mar 2003, 16:39   #16
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Yes he wants it soley to become popular and not to benifit himself in any other way.
becoming popular would be extremelly beneficial thankyouverymuch hence i want a fairly minority belief system in which i can rapidly rise through the ranks and become all powerful and reach inner peace.
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I see, you need something a bot more hierarchichal. why not go and patronise the Scientologists? Granted you have to give them 95% of your wage or something, but just tell them you are homeless, and you want inner peace or some drivel. they will lap it up, and you can be the guy taking 95% of rich morons wages for yourself.
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No I was just calling him queer
I still think you are making some insidious and underhanded remarks about our shirt lifting bruthaz.
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Pfffffffffffttttttttttt.




Think about stuff for a while, then join a ****ing political party that coresponds to your 'ideas'.
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Think about stuff for a while, then join a ****ing political party that coresponds to your 'ideas'.
or join a weak one that doesn't and make it correspond to your ideas - like Blair did
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Unread 21 Mar 2003, 16:51   #21
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btw what is this 'thirdway' business in new labour, ive heard a lot about it with out knowing that much (thank you BBC) is it like some centreist policy what did 'old' labour stand for, and what changed to become 'new' labour?
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btw what is this 'thirdway' business in new labour, ive heard a lot about it with out knowing that much (thank you BBC) is it like some centreist policy what did 'old' labour stand for, and what changed to become 'new' labour?
The Third Way is neither left nor right, neither up nor down, neither north nor south.



Nobody actually knows. It's just a trendy buzz phrase that leaders of centre-left parties like to use.


Oh, and I'm not going to explain to you the last 25 years of Labour Party history and the complete basis of Social Democracy and Socialism while I'm at it. Read up on freaking politics for Christ's sake.
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well tbh your views are too main stream lefty for me.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I mean, I'm not shallow, but are you THAT blind??!?

Ahaha, I get it, it's a joke right? You're being sarcastic. Good one! Hehe.


Seriously tho, you know what I stand for, don't you? What's wrong with it?
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Seriously tho, you know what I stand for, don't you? What's wrong with it?
Nihilism? Where should we begin?
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Anywhere you want, it makes no difference anyway




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What's the communist song? Imagine?
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That's good as is The Red Flag , but I was thinking, of course, of Sk8r Boi by Avril Lavigne.

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I spent 3 fking hours today explaining to a friend why anarcho-syndicalism was actually Stalinism gone wrong and would never be implementable in the first place; feeling the need to press in my own beliefs I compared its ease of implementation to Marxism, anarcho-syndicalism possibly being the only other system that makes it look utterly easy.

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Don't ask? Do you mean you're not as interested in in discussing it as a spelling Nazi is interested in correcting people?



Dante, I like Sk8ter Boi too. You got the link wrong though: try http://www.avril-lavigne-pics-lyrics.com/sk8terboi.htm
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a) I'm never interesting.

b)partly

c)micromanagement of communes etc., the way he (an anarcho-syndicalist) saw it, not being entirely up to date on the full manifesto I argued with what he gave me. He used the word Stalinism. I was tired. OK?
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sk8r boi is capitalist dude, its a story of how a free market economy allows a hard working and talented young boy to rise to stardom, and overcome the collectivised notions of conformity which were embedded into those around him in his childhood and which could only be encouraged in an ecomonic system such as communism, which would have probably resulted in him being "kept down" throughout his whole life unable to "better himself" as rock stars would earn less than street cleaners and garbage men and wouldnt have allowed him to capture the "sk8r girl" at the end
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"sk8r" girl??? He was a punk, she did ballet. Can I make it any more obvious?
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"sk8r" girl??? He was a punk, she did ballet. Can I make it any more obvious?
Yeah the ballet girl turned him down and he ended up with the sk8r girl (avril) instead, thats like the whole point of the song: people who are shallow lose out in the end or something. Maybe the lyrics are just too complex for you :((((
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You've totally missed the point. When the revolution comes, we will ALL be sk8rs, and no-one will do balet.

Everyone will be good enough for everyone!

And my point is backed up by Complicated, about the false preppyness capitalism engenders in the kids.
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Yeah the ballet girl turned him down and he ended up with the sk8r girl (avril) instead, thats like the whole point of the song: people who are shallow lose out in the end or something. Maybe the lyrics are just too complex for you (((
Oh, Avril. Avril is more punk than sk8r.
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but isnt making everyone do sk8r instead of ballet reverse balletaying????? I thought the song was more about the peer group pressure that can be asserted on people who do ballet as opposed to sk8r girls who are more non conforminst in a conformist way
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I hear she invented punk, can anyone confirm or deny?
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she invented sk8r punk a pseudo hardcore splinter group which believes in a continous music revolution around the world, they hate the provisional punk groups on account of their more moderate belief in the 'system' ie ballet.
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oh and does anyone else think she has a funny nose??? i know some of you think she has funny teeth, but i find her nose more disturning.
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oh and does anyone else think she has a funny nose??? i know some of you think she has funny teeth, but i find her nose more disturning.
Without wishing to repeat the language of your Spanish friend, her nose is rather "non-European" looking don't you think?
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well its kind of bulbous at the end, unlike anything ive seen. It spreads away from her face.


EDIT the end of her nose not her nose but its end kind of goes


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her nose is rather "non-European" looking don't you think?
Well she is from Canada. Although apparantly she's actually a nice person, and is only in on the whole "sk8er" thing for the money, even if her lyrics do have deep meaning.
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