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Unread 18 Jul 2003, 21:18   #1
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"New" browser makes everything else sadly pathetic

Irider makes everything else look like piss. We're playing with it right now, and I've never seen ANYTHING that does the crap this thing does, and none of the extra bull****.

You have to watch the Demo movie to get a feel, but some of the features alone are worth paying for.

Sadly, it's not free (21 day trial or something then around $30)
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Unread 18 Jul 2003, 21:27   #2
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The features look nice, but I'm not happy with that left bar playing such a vital role. It obfuscates your view and makes pages too narrow for my likings.

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Unread 18 Jul 2003, 21:50   #4
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Mmmm... like tabs with thumbnails, and a nifty select-open thing.
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quite nifty, I wouldn't call it a browser though, just a modification of IE.
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Unread 18 Jul 2003, 22:29   #6
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I still prefer www.avantbrowser.com
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Unread 18 Jul 2003, 23:12   #9
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quite nifty, I wouldn't call it a browser though, just a modification of IE.
Yeah, the more I looked at it, it appears to basically rape IE for all it's settings and your favorites.

Delphi: this might be true...I use a 21" Sony though, so that's usually not an issue.
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It's not unlike any other tabbed browser, other than that it shows thumbnails with the tabs. Most of those things you can do in iRider, you can do in Opera just as easily. In addition, I noticed it having a distinct lack of mouse gestures.

A fairly nice mod, but hardly revolutionary.
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Unread 19 Jul 2003, 01:41   #11
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I prefer operas "lets not make a visual interface" idea. Browsing fullscreen owns, and mouse gestures are the win.
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I prefer operas "lets not make a visual interface" idea. Browsing fullscreen owns, and mouse gestures are the win.
I also prefer opera, it gives a better overall browsing journey.
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Unread 19 Jul 2003, 02:25   #13
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Uninspiring.

And I enjoy being able to get the maximum amount of page I can fit on my screen without toolbars worth **** all cluttering my view.

IE can do everything I need, this 'mod' seems to only introduce features noone's asking for and that are available, in a much more rounded implementation, in other browsers.

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It's not unlike any other tabbed browser, other than that it shows thumbnails with the tabs. Most of those things you can do in iRider, you can do in Opera just as easily. In addition, I noticed it having a distinct lack of mouse gestures.

A fairly nice mod, but hardly revolutionary.
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Unread 19 Jul 2003, 13:53   #15
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How can any sane person possibly not hate 'mouse gestures'? I suspect the unholy mind that contocted this abominable idea is also responsible for such setbacks as the transparent-pop-over-flash-advert-with-sound and the virus hoax.
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How can any sane person possibly not hate 'mouse gestures'?
Mouse gestures are the best thing since sliced bread.

In addition, if they bother you: File -> Preferences -> Accessibility -> Tick off 'Enable Mouse Gestures'.

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Mouse gestures are the best thing since sliced bread.

In addition, if they bother you: File -> Preferences -> Accessibility -> Tick off 'Enable Mouse Gestures'.

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Not only do i not like mouse gestures, I do not like the fact that some disturbed people think they are not evil. I'd rather be called a Heathen than a mouse gesture apologist!
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Unread 19 Jul 2003, 14:07   #18
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a mouse gesture apologist!
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ok but i wouldnt pay for it. Some features are nice, but it would absolutely eat my RAM.
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I still prefer www.avantbrowser.com
i dislike this, it had loads of crappy files with it.
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IE.

Preinstalled, simple and it lets you browse the web.

Anyone who says that IE is bad says that only because its MS.

Why bother downloading another browser when you have one sitting there already.
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Unread 20 Jul 2003, 13:17   #22
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Not only do i not like mouse gestures, I do not like the fact that some disturbed people think they are not evil. I'd rather be called a Heathen than a mouse gesture apologist!
can you please justify why you don't like mouse gestures, otherwise we can just ignore you.
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IE.

Preinstalled, simple and it lets you browse the web.

Anyone who says that IE is bad says that only because its MS.

Why bother downloading another browser when you have one sitting there already.
I really like opera, there is nothing wrong with IE, however as a self proclaimed power user; I find Opera more productive.
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Anyone who says that IE is bad says that only because its MS.
IE is only bad because it allows people to create sites with sucky HTML which don't work in any other browser.

It's not bad, but rather not my favourite because of the lack of missing features, such as tabbed browsing and mouse gestures.
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not sure i like mouse gestures.
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that has some extra gay features otherwise it's just like www.crazybrowser.com which was released ages and ages ago (which I use note )
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can you please justify why you don't like mouse gestures, otherwise we can just ignore you.
you can use them by accident, and keyboard keys are just as handy
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IE is only bad because it allows people to create sites with sucky HTML which don't work in any other browser.

It's not bad, but rather not my favourite because of the lack of missing features, such as tabbed browsing and mouse gestures.
Granted, it supports 'sucky' HTML (technical term?!), but for everyday browsing of the sites I visit (sharereactor, these forums, hotmail, radio1 etc) its fine.

As for tabbed browsing, I'm fine with opening another window and sticking it somewhere. With 3x21" monitors and a 1600sw (the SGI flatscreen that was sold with the 320/540 series SGI workstations), monitor real estate isn't much of an issue. I can understand that people with one or two monitors would find it useful though.

Mouse gestures - should stay in Black and White.

Each to there own though!
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you can use them by accident, and keyboard keys are just as handy
which you can disable.
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That is a reason people don't like them though, which is what he asked.
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The scroll wheel seems to work on some pages and not others.
I can use the scroll wheel on the forums index, but when i click the GD link, it opens in a new window, and then scroll wheel no longer works.
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IE.

Preinstalled, simple and it lets you browse the web.

Anyone who says that IE is bad says that only because its MS.

Why bother downloading another browser when you have one sitting there already.
It's not bad, it's just not particularly good either.

That argument is like saying that you shouldn't get another game because you've already got Spider Solitaire.

ps.

Opera is a more fun game than Black and White
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That is a reason people don't like them though, which is what he asked.
having the option of using them is therefore a good thing.
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Anyone who says that IE is bad says that only because its MS.
If IE met my three main requirements, I'd use it :

- didn't have such god awful implementation of the "Back" button
- the use of tabbed browsing (I often have 30+ tabs open - this many IE windows would make alt-tabbing a nightmare)
- easy simple pop-up disabling

As it stands, I use IE at work (pre-installed, little choice) and I can honestly say I prefer Opera for non-ideological reasons. It's not perfect, but it's features are ahead of IE.
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Nothing Mozilla won't be able to do in the future.
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Nodrog said use opera 7. On this board we do as Nodrog says.
i'm pretty sure he then decided it was ****
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- didn't have such god awful implementation of the "Back" button
- the use of tabbed browsing (I often have 30+ tabs open - this many IE windows would make alt-tabbing a nightmare)
- easy simple pop-up disabling
I'm not certain what you mean with the "Back" button, but so far IE is the only browser I've used with a decent "Back" functionality, not requiring the page to reload all over again when you wish to return to the previous screen.

As for tabbing, I much prefer seperate windows. The Alt-Tab replacement makes managing them a lot easier, and not only that you can use the functionality with other apps too.

Sensiva Can add mouse gestures to both IE and the rest of the OS which in my view is a bonus, though sadly it does not appear to be free anymore, still there's bound to be an older version out there.

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i'm pretty sure he then decided it was ****
Are we talking about the same Gordon 'Hey, everyone use opera, it's great' Ross?
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I'm not certain what you mean with the "Back" button, but so far IE is the only browser I've used with a decent "Back" functionality, not requiring the page to reload all over again when you wish to return to the previous screen.
The IE implementation is distinctly non-standards compliant. In addition with this, it's majorly annoying.

At work, I have to post on this forum via a proxy, which ocassionally fails. In other words I can post a 500 line rant, click "Submit" and it will time out. 50% of the time, the post will be sucessful (i.e. the post makes it), the other 50% it doesn't. If it doesn't, I have to retype the damn thing (unless I have copied the info beforehand, which is what I basically have to do). With Opera, I could have simply used the "Back" button.

"Back" implies going back a page to what I was looking at. Not going back to a page which IE has decided to reload for me.
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I'm not certain what you mean with the "Back" button, but so far IE is the only browser I've used with a decent "Back" functionality, not requiring the page to reload all over again when you wish to return to the previous screen.
It has in every version of IE I've ever used.

It doesn't in opera.
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let's not get carried away over browsers. Get a life etc.
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