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Unread 29 Aug 2006, 00:35   #1
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No love for ToF? Honestly no Love for ToF rank 3?
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Unread 29 Aug 2006, 00:53   #2
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Re: ToF

ToF have fenced their way to rank 3. An admirable quest for third place.
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Unread 29 Aug 2006, 01:05   #3
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rank 3 is admirable, given the fact that the top 5 race is tough. Omen, in earlier ticks felt the heat of that race. Congrat on 2nd btw!!
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Re: ToF

Reminds me of their 4th place finish in Round 14. Congratulations to them, they seem to be good roid hoarders in rounds where it can pay off to stay on the fence. I doubt that 1up will let them stay there for long though - and that may be why there haven't been too many posts on the subject.
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Re: ToF

be intresting to see if they can hang on to there roids if they are targeted
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Re: ToF

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be intresting to see if they can hang on to there roids if they are targeted
Their roids are quite spread around on various planets, not that many big planets. I doubt anyone will bother targeting them this close to roundend.
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Re: ToF

well done tbh.

Lets see if they manage to finish as 3rd.

Will impress me atleast. How someone win / achieve a ranking wont be remembered

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Re: ToF

They played a good round so far, they're on the "fence" but that's because ToF simply doesn't care about politics, they just do their own thing.
I do feel however that 3rd place is a bit too much to be true and that 1up will eventually take #3 in the end. If it comes from directly targetting them or just outroiding them.
Also this rounds politics helped them alot. Escape, xVx & Subh fell down the rankings and ToF took advantage of that every time.
I doubt that this close to round-end they won't finish t5, my money is on them finishing 4th & 1up taking 3rd place on the final day.

Though my predictions have been wrong in the past
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Re: ToF

Definately an achievement worth noting, albeit it there's three alliances below them with higher average scores, and which are just unable to recruit up to ToF numbers. A lot of how the final rankings appear, not only for ToF, but for others too, comes down to how certain alliances played themselves out politically.
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Unread 29 Aug 2006, 09:25   #10
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Re: ToF

ToF finishing 3rd would blow off alot of people pre round predictions.

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Re: ToF

I would be quite shocked and frankly amazed (not to mention just a smidgen appalled) if 1up targetted ToF at all. We didn't target Omen when they made their effort to pass us. Why fight a war for 2nd or 3rd place? It's quite amazing that you guys don't get this about us yet. In war it's all or nothing, win or die. I have no respect for alliances who play to achieve some loser rank* when more is available. The only good thing about this is that it drops Subh down another rank.


*Or for people who think having a "good planet" is the be all and end all of PA. A blind rhesus monkey at the cancerous end of a short life as a drug tester could do that. It can be done on a free account.
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Unread 29 Aug 2006, 09:37   #12
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I would be quite shocked and frankly amazed (not to mention just a smidgen appalled) if 1up targetted ToF at all. We didn't target Omen when they made their effort to pass us. Why fight a war for 2nd or 3rd place? It's quite amazing that you guys don't get this about us yet. In war it's all or nothing, win or die. I have no respect for alliances who play to achieve some loser rank* when more is available. The only good thing about this is that it drops Subh down another rank.


*Or for people who think having a "good planet" is the be all and end all of PA. A blind rhesus monkey at the cancerous end of a short life as a drug tester could do that. It can be done on a free account.
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We are on the 'fence' since frankly we dont give a ****, if there is no alliance that we find suitable to bond ourselves to then why should we? We just play the game in the fashion we have played since started.

And Kargool, it wasnt our quest or goal to reach this spot, our objective is to do as good as we can and keeping the fun in this GAME.
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so targeting subh worked for you guys then
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Re: ToF

I personally, and i'm sure 1up is the seem as Sid said somewhere I think, dont care about any rank but #1 so doubt we will target ToF in the few days left.

all I "care" is that we end above nubh and they get nothing
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I personally, and i'm sure 1up is the seem as Sid said somewhere I think, dont care about any rank but #1 so doubt we will target ToF in the few days left.

all I "care" is that we end above nubh and they get nothing
well finishing above them looks like job done at this stage
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well done tof in getting into the top 5

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Re: ToF

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We are on the 'fence' since frankly we dont give a ****, if there is no alliance that we find suitable to bond ourselves to then why should we? We just play the game in the fashion we have played since started.
The "usual code" is that top ranking alliances are expected to participate in the political scheme of the round. A lot of players would find a round where nobody "bonds" and everyone plays the game "keeping the fun element of not fighting wars" rather dull. There is, though, a difference in being able, being interested, and getting involved to/in fighting wars.
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so targeting subh worked for you guys then
Subh and TOF were allied earlier in the round when the SUPERB HC Crew of SUBH decided that teaming up with TOF would be the best thing to do.
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Subh and TOF were allied earlier in the round when the SUPERB HC Crew of SUBH decided that teaming up with TOF would be the best thing to do.
So what you are saying is that ToF actually did have allies this round. And those allies were Subh.. Hmm.. Interesting
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So what you are saying is that ToF actually did have allies this round. And those allies were Subh.. Hmm.. Interesting
Yep TOF was ALLIED with SUBH at some point, atleast not hitting eachother planets and trying to kill xVx at some point
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We are on the 'fence' since frankly we dont give a ****, if there is no alliance that we find suitable to bond ourselves to then why should we? We just play the game in the fashion we have played since started.

And Kargool, it wasnt our quest or goal to reach this spot, our objective is to do as good as we can and keeping the fun in this GAME.
Congrats mate, ToF has been through a lot, great to see you solid as ever this round.
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Subh and TOF were allied earlier in the round when the SUPERB HC Crew of SUBH decided that teaming up with TOF would be the best thing to do.
maybe so but not too long ago tof hc decided to target subh
probably figured with 1up seekign revenge they had a good chance of gettin thru on them
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General1 stop trying to discredit ToF's round. Subh/ToF had one night of organized targetting of xVx a few weeks ago and that was it.
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maybe so but not too long ago tof hc decided to target subh
probably figured with 1up seekign revenge they had a good chance of gettin thru on them
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Yep TOF was ALLIED with SUBH at some point, atleast not hitting eachother planets and trying to kill xVx at some point
lol General1, you seriously don't have a clue.
But I enjoy all this speculating, so please don't stop now
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Re: ToF

ToF's swarms make me giggle at times.

But all n all. Good job ToF. It was very expected. U ruined my t3 prediction :`(

Best of luck in the next round. And keep surprising me !

(as to other surprises... SUBH... wtf happened ?)
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But I enjoy all this speculating, so please don't stop now
Uhm, I have the LOGS from SUBH HC confirming it.
I don't need anything else
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Uhm, I have the LOGS from SUBH HC confirming it.
I don't need anything else
please send it me on irc , as me and the other HC's are unaware of this

as for anything else on the thread........

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Great job guys! You will overtake 1up in scorerank in a matter of ticks. I hope 1up will pull themselves together for round 19 as this round's performance has been appalling. Nevertheless well done ToF!
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Yep TOF was ALLIED with SUBH at some point, atleast not hitting eachother planets and trying to kill xVx at some point
Are you still in a huff with your gal m8 being fleetcaught?
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I would be quite shocked and frankly amazed (not to mention just a smidgen appalled) if 1up targetted ToF at all. We didn't target Omen when they made their effort to pass us. Why fight a war for 2nd or 3rd place? It's quite amazing that you guys don't get this about us yet. In war it's all or nothing, win or die. I have no respect for alliances who play to achieve some loser rank* when more is available. The only good thing about this is that it drops Subh down another rank.


*Or for people who think having a "good planet" is the be all and end all of PA. A blind rhesus monkey at the cancerous end of a short life as a drug tester could do that. It can be done on a free account.
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people seem to have forgotten, that allthough ToF's performance history hasn't been top 3 quality before now mostly due to their political play (staying out of it mostly), it has ALWAYS been consistant, and they always field a fairly active team. This is really no suprise in the political arena that presented itself in round 18. Ofcourse not comparing apples to apples as they have 11 more members than anyone else in top 5, nevertheless, good performance, like always.
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tof seem to be pushing hard for top3 by hitting us tho ska at least :/
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Are you still in a huff with your gal m8 being fleetcaught?
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As long as 1up lose aswell life is peachy
Attitudes like that will ensure PA being utterly shit for all eternity and confirms why everyones opinion of Subh is lower than a snakes belly in a rut.
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Attitudes like that will ensure PA being utterly shit for all eternity and confirms why everyones opinion of Subh is lower than a snakes belly in a rut.
I said it in r14, i said it in r15, i said it in r16 and i said it in r17, and I also said it in r18.
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Attitudes like that will ensure PA being utterly shit for all eternity and confirms why everyones opinion of Subh is lower than a snakes belly in a rut.
I am simply confirming to stifler and achilles the feeling is mutual.
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Well the HC's of Subh ruined Subh this round completely.
Nuff said
I underestimated a few of my ex-members this round I will be more vigilent next round.
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Re: ToF

as for today I just can say:

this was a little drawback, yes, but we didnt loose the war by now
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I underestimated a few of my ex-members this round I will be more vigilent next round.
Why, you've even said in a membersmeeting in Subh that you are not gonna play in Subh.
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Why, you've even said in a membersmeeting in Subh that you are not gonna play in Subh.
Doesnt mean I wont be recruiting for an alliance next round
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Why, you've even said in a membersmeeting in Subh that you are not gonna play in Subh.
the whole subh hc are leaving subh at the end of the rd to start a new alliance

ps wether the name will be nautical is anyone's guess
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the whole subh hc are leaving subh at the end of the rd to start a new alliance

ps wether the name will be nautical is anyone's guess
So the whole Subh HC is leaving to make a new alliance..

I dont think changing the name will help them from the whopping they'll recive in r19.. hehe
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the whole subh hc are leaving subh at the end of the rd to start a new alliance

ps wether the name will be nautical is anyone's guess
Ali will still be runnning subh next round.
Subh is arabic for sunrise and doesnt have any nautical reference, much in the same way 1up has with mushrooms and mario.
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plz don't turn another thread into subh & 1up bashing, seen plenty of that this round allready tyvm
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Re: ToF

we might have a little wee bit of a problem on our race for rank 3

could have relied a bit too much on eXis patience

well there has been a little dispute between the "calc-it-through"-fraction and the "political-reasoning"-fraction about this target and as the politicals didnt want to be the sissys in the end, we stand where we stand

I wonder what will happen these last 2 days...
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lol General1, you seriously don't have a clue.
But I enjoy all this speculating, so please don't stop now
Are you Tof hc ?
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