Double Standards

[KweKweK]

Originally Posted by Treveler

I guess it all boils down to how we define double standards. I won’t call it DS unless it’s more or less the exact same situation and you define it slightly different.

We both agree that the MH's handled the situation badly though it seems.

The problem in life is that there arent exact same situations, but only similar situations. So its literally impossible to compare exact same situations cause there arent any. It all boils down to the rule. It cant possibly be endorsed without disadvantahing 1 party or the other and thus should be thrown out of the window all together. Cause the MH's already proved on more than 1 occassion they cant manage the rule themselves. Yes Treveler we do seem to agree about the poor decision making that is currently happening.

I really liked Lokken his suggestion.

I also like to see the game turn back to pre pax. Where the alliance was more a tool than a necessity. Because with the current set up it sure as hell isnt gonna expand the player base the way it needs expanding.

This will be pretty much the last thing I post about the whole situation if anyone wants to continue it I'm happy to discuss it on IRC.

[Travler]

Originally Posted by KweKweK

Isnt breaking a rule one way or the other.... Still breaking the rule. Whatever way you put it. Its not that 1up is beeing blamed for anything, personaly I think they played out the tactic perfectly. But having 7ish shit planets passifly playing the game with the sole purpous of keeping 1up score down to fool everyone else and with these planets exceeding the alliance limit, is still breaking the rules. What I dont understand is that MH gave 1up the go ahead to do it. It says nothing about 1up, it just says alot about how the rules are beeing enforced. /me points at the name of the thread

Point being that what 1up did in R17 CANNOT be used to either punish 1up in R18 or allow other alliance's and their support planets to abuse 1up in R18.

Per Kal of PATEAM, members not added to an alliance tag is perfectly allowable this round as a strategy of hiding score. They can attack together without being considered a support planet like the non-tagged cover-oppers.

And seriously why would a bunch of Exilition members even care about some planets that got closed if Exilition did not have a vested interest in seeing these planets reopened?

[TheShadowMan]

Originally Posted by jerome

how exactly?
does he take a crowbar to your face if you don't hand over your roids or something?

no but he continues to deny things, paint pretty pictures of bunny rabbits and 1up petting zoo's, and fluffy things when really 1up are destorying this game with their shit

eg 1up pr keeps repeating same thing over and over and over until the peons believe oh wait 1up are the good guys because they have told us so many times. Instead of the same peon reading the negative towards 1up post and realising what shit heads they really are.

You ****wit, bandwagon jumping little bollicks

edit: reread and felt you deserved a personal insult cos your a wanker

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Travler

And seriously why would a bunch of Exilition members even care about some planets that got closed if Exilition did not have a vested interest in seeing these planets reopened?

Would you stop making this shit point for god's sake. I have no vested interest in exilition winning the round. I know more people in 1up than I do in exilition. Yet I still think these planets should be re-opened. You and your ad hominems

[aestuos]

Originally Posted by Tomkat

This isn't an Exi vs 1up debate. Don't turn it into one.

It's about the double standards and ambiguity of the PA team's decisions to allow some planets to stay open and others to be closed, even though their impact and the "benefit" they give to their alliance is pretty much the same.

Thank you someone else who agrees cant we just get a definition with no ambiquiety or where no play on words can be used.

[mazzelaar]

Originally Posted by TheShadowMan

no but he continues to deny things, paint pretty pictures of bunny rabbits and 1up petting zoo's, and fluffy things when really 1up are destorying this game with their shit

It's more a case of correcting innacuracies than denial. I'd be overjoyed if you would actually quantify "destroying the game" and "thier shit" please.

Originally Posted by TheShadowMan

eg 1up pr keeps repeating same thing over and over and over until the peons believe oh wait 1up are the good guys because they have told us so many times. Instead of the same peon reading the negative towards 1up post and realising what shit heads they really are.

It's true, we do have the power to stop free thought and stop people drawing thier own conclusions.

Originally Posted by TheShadoMan

You ****wit, bandwagon jumping little bollicks

edit: reread and felt you deserved a personal insult cos your a wanker

Totally uneccessary.

[Hude]

quote from a friend:
<xxxx> i was reading through the support conversation a bit
<xxxx> never really got that
<xxxx> ****ing pathetic people
<xxxx> taking everything so serious

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Hude

quote from a friend:
<xxxx> i was reading through the support conversation a bit
<xxxx> never really got that
<xxxx> ****ing pathetic people
<xxxx> taking everything so serious

And now for something entirely different.



Internet, internet, I love thee,
Internet, internet, what you mean to me,
Joy and happiness and fun, fun, fun,
I hope exilition **** 1up up the bum!

There once was a man who was bald,
A successful PA alliance I recall he controlled,
But even when he tried with all of his might,
There was one group he could never outfight!

And because art should always transcend politics...

As I wandered my way through a game called PA,
I met a a group that was really quite gay,
For they'd play only one round,
And then couldn't be found,
A really quite curious decision.

So I approached this alliance,
With an air of defiance,
Who are you I cried,
To which they replied,
Good sir, we are exilition.

A shit name is no excuse,
You piles of refuse,
I yelled at the top my voice.
Go make the right choice,
And go stand toe to toe,
With your mighty, imperious foe.

[Benneh]

Originally Posted by Hude

quote from a friend:
<xxxx> i was reading through the support conversation a bit
<xxxx> never really got that
<xxxx> ****ing pathetic people
<xxxx> taking everything so serious

Was that friend in (e)X(*4)?

oh giggle.

[Benneh]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

And now for something entirely different.



Internet, internet, I love thee,
Internet, internet, what you mean to me,
Joy and happiness and fun, fun, fun,
I hope exilition **** 1up up the bum!

You biast mod

[jt25man]

Originally Posted by Benneh

You biast mod

It may have been biased, but it was funny.

[NitinA]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

And now for something entirely different.



Internet, internet, I love thee,
Internet, internet, what you mean to me,
Joy and happiness and fun, fun, fun,
I hope exilition **** 1up up the bum!

There once was a man who was bald,
A successful PA alliance I recall he controlled,
But even when he tried with all of his might,
There was one group he could never outfight!

And because art should always transcend politics...

As I wandered my way through a game called PA,
I met a a group that was really quite gay,
For they'd play only one round,
And then couldn't be found,
A really quite curious decision.

So I approached this alliance,
With an air of defiance,
Who are you I cried,
To which they replied,
Good sir, we are exilition.

A shit name is no excuse,
You piles of refuse,
I yelled at the top my voice.
Go make the right choice,
And go stand toe to toe,
With your mighty, imperious foe.

JBG you're absolutely a poet.

[Wishmaster]

[19:23:29] <member> .seen 1up_playing_fair
[19:23:33] <bot> member, I don't remember seeing 1up_playing_fair.

tihi

[jerome]

Originally Posted by TheShadowMan

no but he continues to deny things, paint pretty pictures of bunny rabbits and 1up petting zoo's, and fluffy things when really 1up are destorying this game with their shit

eg 1up pr keeps repeating same thing over and over and over until the peons believe oh wait 1up are the good guys because they have told us so many times. Instead of the same peon reading the negative towards 1up post and realising what shit heads they really are.

You ****wit, bandwagon jumping little bollicks

edit: reread and felt you deserved a personal insult cos your a wanker

what bandwagon?

[Phil^]

Originally Posted by Wishmaster

[19:23:29] <member> .seen 1up_playing_fair
[19:23:33] <bot> member, I don't remember seeing 1up_playing_fair.

tihi

<imaginary person> .seen exilition_playing_fair || exilition_playing_clean
*Quits imaginary_bot (Quit: Integer division by zero)

[Lucifer]

Originally Posted by wishmaster

[19:23:29] <member> .seen 1up_playing_fair
[19:23:33] <bot> member, I don't remember seeing 1up_playing_fair.

tihi

haha - wishmaster owned this thread

10/10

[Tomkat]

Originally Posted by Phil^

<imaginary person> .seen exilition_playing_fair || exilition_playing_clean
*Quits imaginary_bot (Quit: Integer division by zero)

How aren't Exilition playing "fair" or "clean"?

[Phil^]

Originally Posted by Tomkat

How aren't Exilition playing "fair" or "clean"?

in precisely the same way that 1up "arent playing fair"
it was meant as an amusing twist on a flamebait post by wishmaster
*sigh*

i was half tempted to do a permutation on null pointer exception or buffer overflow but doing the same gag over and over gets tiresome

[Lucifer]

Ok, I'm starting a pool.

Winner gets 1 tick of my roids.

The pool is: When this thread will stop.

A) # of posts
B) # of pages
C) The date it stops

I am declaring that this thread stops after:

36 hours of no new posts.

[Phil^]

when tomkat deletes the first post of the thread - that'd put a stop to it fairly quickly
besides forming an agreement with people to roid you intentionally is technically farming btw.

[Paisley]

Originally Posted by Phil^

when tomkat deletes the first post of the thread - that'd put a stop to it fairly quickly
besides allowing people to roid you intentionally is technically farming btw.

I hope lokken doesnt resurrects the thread

[Lucifer]

Originally Posted by Phil^

when tomkat deletes the first post of the thread - that'd put a stop to it fairly quickly
besides forming an agreement with people to roid you intentionally is technically farming btw.

Yeah, because I was actually planning on letting someone roid me...

learn2takeajoke

[Phil^]

my sense of humour is wasted on you all

[Lucifer]

Originally Posted by Phil^

my sense of humour is wasted on you all

It went over my head I guess :/ - Sorry

[Wishmaster]

Originally Posted by Phil^

in precisely the same way that 1up "arent playing fair"
it was meant as an amusing twist on a flamebait post by wishmaster
*sigh*

i was half tempted to do a permutation on null pointer exception or buffer overflow but doing the same gag over and over gets tiresome

clearly u saw that was meant as a joke?

copied it from irc chan, couldnt help myself. sry if u felt I trolled

[Phil^]

( in all seriousness, this thread has pretty much run its course. time to let it die / be closed / be deleted )

[Lucifer]

Originally Posted by Phil^

( in all seriousness, this thread has pretty much run its course. time to let it die / be closed / be deleted )

That's what I've been tryin to say :P

[KweKweK]

Originally Posted by Travler

Point being that what 1up did in R17 CANNOT be used to either punish 1up in R18 or allow other alliance's and their support planets to abuse 1up in R18.

Per Kal of PATEAM, members not added to an alliance tag is perfectly allowable this round as a strategy of hiding score. They can attack together without being considered a support planet like the non-tagged cover-oppers.

And seriously why would a bunch of Exilition members even care about some planets that got closed if Exilition did not have a vested interest in seeing these planets reopened?

First of all I never said anything about 1up needing to be punished for the tactic to be used. I also said I have alot of respect for the way the played r17 and won it and other rounds. If you would just read my ****** post you might get that.

I dont get why you post what Kal said, because I know his opinion and thats why I post in the first place. Its a crap decision as I explained already in previous posts which you obviously didnt read considering your 1st comment.

I care about those planets beeing reopened, because the rule has been used in an absurd way again. I care for the health of the game cause I would like to keep playing it in the future instead of seeing it do bad because of some sh*t rule. I would have thought the same and posted the same regardless of what alliance I'm in. And as you might have noticed its not only eXilition people who agree with this.

[Tomkat]

Originally Posted by Phil^

i was half tempted to do a permutation on null pointer exception or buffer overflow but doing the same gag over and over gets tiresome

Geeky jokes are never cool

PS this thread will live on forever as it's the most interesting one we've had on AD/PD for about 3-4 months

[lokken]

Originally Posted by DMB

Ok, I'm starting a pool.

Winner gets 1 tick of my roids.

The pool is: When this thread will stop.

A) # of posts
B) # of pages
C) The date it stops

I am declaring that this thread stops after:

36 hours of no new posts.

ban user, find planet, close for farming

[lokken]

Originally Posted by Paisley

I hope lokken doesnt resurrects the thread

not my thread to resurrect no more. I gave it to some other poor soul to moderate and i'm not a supermod.

looks like you are safe

[JonnyBGood]

lokken closed this thread through sheer force of will.