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Unread 28 Aug 2004, 04:09   #1
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Thumbs up congrats to sid & 1up

Perhaps a tad bit early, but might as well:
Congrats to sid & 1up for creating the political atmosphere in which they so easily gained the crown.
By first creating the grounds and ideas for no blocking what so ever, then grabbing the few remaining decent players in the game, making sure you're the strongest and toughest.
Easy as pie.
I hope all the other top20 alliances have liked their slice right out of sids hand.


Utter pathetic how cowardess alliances have become and how crap a tiny universe is.

Oh well, so ends boring round #8 or so, I've lost count after round 7.
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Unread 28 Aug 2004, 05:33   #2
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Re: congrats to sid & 1up

How many of these threads do we really need?
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Unread 28 Aug 2004, 05:35   #3
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Re: congrats to sid & 1up

whats the point of this ?
don't we all know that... so 1up did win does that means other sucks ? no every1 can play how they like and how they want your not in a position to change that, if you wanted then you should have made an alliance and fight 1up did you do that ?
what did you want to see then a r10.5 again with blocks, it's never good right always say it's bad that's the easy way.
if you realy think this is a round 8 then I think your more crap then any other person in the PA community.
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Unread 28 Aug 2004, 05:52   #4
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Re: congrats to sid & 1up

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Unread 28 Aug 2004, 11:13   #5
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Re: congrats to sid & 1up

so 1up have won this round or most likely anyway, who really cares other than the pathetic 1up people anyway
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Unread 28 Aug 2004, 13:21   #6
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Re: congrats to sid & 1up

No blocking.
Giving 50% of the universe a nap and taking away much firepower of the other alliances.
THAT"S SAD
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Unread 28 Aug 2004, 13:24   #7
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Re: congrats to sid & 1up

what do u expect... 1up r sad
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Unread 28 Aug 2004, 13:45   #8
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Re: congrats to sid & 1up

they give nap yes, but the planets did TAKE the nap they didn't have to. it's not like they couldn't attack 1up it's that they didn't want to as they prefer good score/roids.
same the HC of those planets could take actions but no1 did so it's not 1up fault.
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Re: congrats to sid & 1up

Has anyone tried to name and shame these people?

And if not, why not?
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Unread 28 Aug 2004, 14:26   #10
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that would be amusing
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Unread 28 Aug 2004, 14:31   #11
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Re: congrats to sid & 1up

Well of course ppl wont name and shame these guys becuase it wud effect 1ups policy wudnt it?
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Unread 28 Aug 2004, 14:33   #12
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It would? How?
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Unread 28 Aug 2004, 18:27   #13
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No blocking.
Giving 50% of the universe a nap and taking away much firepower of the other alliances.
THAT"S SAD
Ah yes, our bad, we are so sorry that the players of other alliances are spineless and are those who are so excellent for their alliances because they jump at any meagre offerings of a NAP for an exquisite rank within top100/50/20 over catering the needs for their alliance.


Although you could always blame it on the other alliances for accepting such people into their alliances in the first place, eh ?
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Unread 28 Aug 2004, 22:34   #14
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Re: congrats to sid & 1up

Of course 1up won. This was determined the day the round started. They would have also have won if the uni blocked from the start. They recruited known uber active players from the start and topped off their ranks with with ex active players. Add to this the skill level these uber active players possess and im suprised any one would have thought another alliance could win the round.

I look at other alliances and see alot of them carry "part time players" whether it be out of friendship, loyatly, whatever. Carrying part time players and noobs is helpful for the alliances said community but not for competing on the level the majority of 1ups members compete at. And the fact that most alliances lost some serious players to 1up , many alliances had no other choice but to fill these voids with less active players or unknown players, as there arent enough players in the uni to begin with.

This has been the most boring round i have yet to play in.
If 1up stays together in its current form, they shall also win next round. As no other 100 players can compete with 1ups activity.
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Unread 28 Aug 2004, 22:40   #15
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Re: congrats to sid & 1up

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This has been the most boring round i have yet to play in.
If 1up stays together in its current form, they shall also win next round. As no other 100 players can compete with 1ups activity.

i guess you didnt play round 5,7 or 9 ?
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Those rounds werent boring for me as i was in a small alliance who was just trying to break the top 20 ) R9 ididnt play due to the end of r8.
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Re: congrats to sid & 1up

I'd say this is probably better than r5, as it's impossible to get worse than r5.
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The first 700~ ticks or so were great fun this round. Then, 1up started gathering a good lead ahead of our competitors due to various reasons, which do really not need to be repeated oncemore.
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Giving 50% of the universe a nap and taking away much firepower of the other alliances.
You don't think you might be exaggerating a wee bit?
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THAT"S SAD
back doored the whole freakin universe didn't they, pretty damn clever actually
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back doored the whole freakin universe didn't they, pretty damn clever actually
I am going to assume, from the lack of anything that makes sense in that statement, that you are making comedy assertions as to our sexual preferences?
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lol, no, simply pointing out, that the tactics , political or otherwise were effective, to the point where 1up's lead is what it is.....
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lol, no, simply pointing out, that the tactics , political or otherwise were effective, to the point where 1up's lead is what it is.....
I'm still rather missing the point of exactly what you're trying to say.

Are you saying we nap'd the whole universe?
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Are you saying we nap'd the whole universe?
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Re: congrats to sid & 1up

ah crap.

and there's me trying to be clever, looks like ill just read the forums again :P
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Re: congrats to sid & 1up

I agree that it's lame for ppl to accept 1UP NAPs. But it's not just their lameness. 1UP offering these NAPs is just as lame. Especially since we don't need stagnation in this game. On the other hand: I got hit a lot by them at the start but nowadays, their sub-top players seem to have gotten inactive, while their top players can hardly attack any not-NAP-ed planets. I'm going up the ranks fast. Same for a few other ppl who haven't given up and are active at the moment.
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It's not lame of 1up to offer. It gives 1up members a chance to play with their galaxies, as opposed to against them. Every major alliance has policies similar to this. Allow me to repeat: Every major alliance has policies similar to this. They have the policy because it makes sense, not because they wanted to subvert 'half the universe.' The problem is that so many people were awed by 1up that they decided to put this policy ahead of their alliance. A personal choice that definitely influenced the war.
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It's not lame of 1up to offer. It gives 1up members a chance to play with their galaxies, as opposed to against them. Every major alliance has policies similar to this. Allow me to repeat: Every major alliance has policies similar to this.
You must be a 1up member. This statement is in line with the "no naps" and "fluid politics" statements.
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He isn't - he says it makes sense for an alliance, because it makes sense for an alliance
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You must be a 1up member. This statement is in line with the "no naps" and "fluid politics" statements.
Sorry to disappoint you. But if I may clarify: I don't actually know if 1up have made any specific, explicit NAP agreements with any planets or galaxies. I doubt they have, neither have I heard of them from any credible source, nor did they need to. As for 'fluid politics' I've been preaching that since round 6.
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why don't you all just get over yourself and this round etc mmmk? 1up won, they had the best politics and had the most ACTIVE players. Pple whining about what poor quality this universe is are pathetic. 1up doesn't have more quality members then another alliance. they just have active and dedicated players and played a politically perfect round.

To Jester, no offense but as a mod you're unacceptably biassed in some points.
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To Jester, no offense but as a mod you're unacceptably biassed in some points.
I am biased, but I try not to let that affect my modding. If it has, why don't you send off a PM and point it out. Just keep in mind that I didn't sacrifice my opinions to become a mod.
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I am biased, but I try not to let that affect my modding. If it has, why don't you send off a PM and point it out. Just keep in mind that I didn't sacrifice my opinions to become a mod.
sacrefize you don't have to, being abit more diplomatic then the avg poster you should be. In this context you're an authority person and as such you should behave imo.
Again, nothing personal cause I cheared your new appointment in pm when they announced it.
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I believe I've become a much more diplomatic poster in the last few months. Compare:

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In this matter, my opinions are firm. I will not comprimize just because I'm a mod. If you have a problem with that, take it up with JJ or some supermod, and let them fire me for it. I believe in being honest and I'm not going to stop being honest just because I have to clean up the endless heaps of trash that permeate this forum.

Some people may view what I post as pro-1up. I'd like to point out that I'm not mindlessly for any one alliance, ever. It's not like I've shirked flaming my own alliances before, in public, while I was still a member. If it's warranted, I'll do it. The reason I'm defending 1up in this matter is quite simply that they haven't done anything 'wrong.' Not only that, but they're being set up for a 'you won last round, now you die' situation next round, which is pretty unreasonable.

Many of the posters that antagonize 1up also seem to be relatively inexperienced, and I'm worried they don't realize the sort of detrimental effect that mentality has on the game.
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Jester, no doubt you have become more diplomatic in posting (eventhough your example is comparing 2 extreme examples) but sometimes I can't help thinking by myself after reading your post like "maybe as a mod he should have worded that differently".

Then again, I'm too impulsive and contraversial to be mod material either, so who am I to judge.

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You must be a 1up member. This statement is in line with the "no naps" and "fluid politics" statements.

yea ! jester is really a 1up member ......

just for having a clue you dont need to be 1up - eventho somehow i start to think it.

for me are those accepting those naps are the lame persons but on the other hand every other fking alliance got the same rules just that they are not as good used as they would like to be used. its the alliance fault that such planets kept going in their ranks even while having evidence that certain planets nap.

and all of you people talking about 50% of napping half the universe where in the same no people are named yet, it would interest me who is it.

also there arent really much worth enough to nap, are there ?
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To sum up 1ups 'galaxy nap' political move for the 'challenged' its a bit like this.

If you are in a 1up gal, 1up will not attack you.
However, if you attack 1up planets 1up will specifically target and attack you, regardless of the galaxy you are in.

That pretty much sums it up as simply as I can.

Or in another way.... if your in a 1up galaxy and hit 1up, you will get hit back.

The 'in gal defence' issue is one which was an additional clause aimed at preventing planets in big galaxys from hitting 1up, only to be covered easily by their gal mates that were 'not allowed to be hit'.

If you dont understand this, re read it 3 or 4 times and then continue to post.

I dont believe that this 'nap' is in anyway lame, or was used to specifically 'make 1up win'. It was just a matter of common curtesy shown to 1up gal mates, that the alliance of their galaxy members wont attack and kill them. I mean, would you really want to report your offline 1up galaxy mates incoming when 1up attacked you the last 3 nights unprovoked....

IT JUST MAKES SENSE! I CANT BELIEVE SOME OF YOU CANT GET YOUR HEAD AROUND IT ARHAHGHSGH
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fighting stupidity with common sense rarely gets you anywhere kileman :/
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You sig is comedy genius.
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i'm thinking knight is some kind of gimmick
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Perhaps a tad bit early, but might as well:
Congrats to sid & 1up for creating the political atmosphere in which they so easily gained the crown.
By first creating the grounds and ideas for no blocking what so ever, then grabbing the few remaining decent players in the game, making sure you're the strongest and toughest.
Easy as pie.
I hope all the other top20 alliances have liked their slice right out of sids hand.


Utter pathetic how cowardess alliances have become and how crap a tiny universe is.

Oh well, so ends boring round #8 or so, I've lost count after round 7.
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I think Knight is Sevrok under a new name =/
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This is the second lunchtime I have looked at the forums and nothing changes even with tiny universes. Don't blaim 1up... blame spinner ..... after all who did the shipstats etc... 1up with Sid

Simple answer is to not play or dont complain. I am sure 1up is pretty bored by now too if you have limits on who you can attack by score..... but how any-one could waste money supporting spinners drinking problem I will never know.
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Did Spinner sleep with your woman or something?

It seems you cant post a single post without showing your bitterness towards that man.
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Any alliance who claims to make NO naps in a full round of planetarion but ends up with a list of planetary nap did something wrong along the way.

The political situation created due this was even more silly then block wars. And the alliance who won by doing this, didn't follow there own rules and should maybe try it next round and prove they can really do it without naps. Imho this round is no hair better then the FPM block from last round, and yes this is all due my bitterness of not playing this round.
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Any alliance who claims to make NO naps in a full round of planetarion but ends up with a list of planetary nap did something wrong along the way.

The political situation created due this was even more silly then block wars. And the alliance who won by doing this, didn't follow there own rules and should maybe try it next round and prove they can really do it without naps. Imho this round is no hair better then the FPM block from last round, and yes this is all due my bitterness of not playing this round.
What's wrong withn MPF last round? Every round there has been powerblocks and the most powerful one wins. What happened last, what happened those 11 rounds before aswell.
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