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27 Aug 2009, 17:31
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Worst possible combo r33
So, a challenge for myself, not that I need one :
Whats the worst possible combo this round? The one most agree is worse, I ll play r33. Going random, will have alliance.
Thanks <3
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Originally posted by Newt
I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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27 Aug 2009, 18:02
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
zik fr
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27 Aug 2009, 18:13
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
tough one.
I agree with neroon but also xan fi is a tough challenge.
Lots of anti-fi/co in uni and init isn't that good. only ter seems a good choice for xan fi: gets frozen by avenger/beets/spids and eaten by ghost , although at T2, but low init makes ghost a nightmare for xan fi.
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27 Aug 2009, 18:51
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
I ll decide 2morrow right before tickstart!
if its even, I ll pick the one I dont want.
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Originally posted by Newt
I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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27 Aug 2009, 19:54
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
Zik fr or Xan fi/co.
Probably Zik Fr.
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27 Aug 2009, 19:58
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
real men go zik fr i love it
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27 Aug 2009, 20:12
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
xan fi,co with cath team, and may the force be with my buddy to masswhore widow to protect me
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27 Aug 2009, 21:17
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
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Originally Posted by Cochese
Zik fr or Xan fi/co.
Probably Zik Fr.
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Wrong, According to the stat makers.. Xan Fi/Co is Xan's main attack fleet, otherwise they'd of buffed Xan research speed.
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27 Aug 2009, 21:29
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
Etd Pillager + Fireblade obviously
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27 Aug 2009, 21:31
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
I really have to say, xan fi/co is indescribably poor. You get roided by cath co/de/cr, xan fr (and possibly cr), etd fi, etd bs. Your efficiencies are pretty average at best and unless you want to try defending etd bs and xan cr incs with the bomber (****ing lolling at 272 a/c, no flak and getting fired at first) you have to research cr/bs anyways, making saved research time irrelevant. The avenger ass rapes xan fi at 165% efficiency and the beetle does the same to the sentinel. That's two ships in different classes where caths and etds 60% of your size can roid you. And if you include the bomber etd bs and xan cr fleets 70% of your size can roid you.
Actually wish, there you go, xan fi/co + bomber!
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood
I really have to say, xan fi/co is indescribably poor. You get roided by cath co/de/cr, xan fr (and possibly cr), etd fi, etd bs. Your efficiencies are pretty average at best and unless you want to try defending etd bs and xan cr incs with the bomber (****ing lolling at 272 a/c, no flak and getting fired at first) you have to research cr/bs anyways, making saved research time irrelevant. The avenger ass rapes xan fi at 165% efficiency and the beetle does the same to the sentinel. That's two ships in different classes where caths and etds 60% of your size can roid you. And if you include the bomber etd bs and xan cr fleets 70% of your size can roid you.
Actually wish, there you go, xan fi/co + bomber!
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28 Aug 2009, 10:35
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
ok, so its either zik fr or xan fi/co and bombs then.
I want to play zik, so if its even I ll go for the awesome xan fi/co combo!
Still a couple of hours left
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Originally posted by Newt
I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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28 Aug 2009, 10:40
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
ur body with ur face
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28 Aug 2009, 12:24
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
Are you ****ing reading this venox?
Sooner or later you will listen to me yes?
Edit: Tbfh Wish, Zik FR aint that bad. FR + zlip = fortress. You could do a hell of alot worse than that fleet tbh. Chuck in feud, and youre looking for a righteous laugh
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28 Aug 2009, 12:45
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
Wish: Go xan fi\co\fr, eod.
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28 Aug 2009, 13:11
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
alright, so its pretty much settled then!
I will go xan fi/co and bombers.
Should I add the worst possible government also? Which would that be btw?
I ll update during the round to show you all how awesome I am !
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I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
Worst possible government would probably be demo I guess. You'd get the worst mining bonus and fast research when you don't even need it and stealth when your natural cov-opping sucks.
Edit: I was going to pos-rep you for this because it's a pretty cool idea but I think I've neg-repped you too recently unfortunately. Nonetheless I grant this idea by seal of epproval!
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28 Aug 2009, 17:43
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
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Etd Pillager + Fireblade obviously
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Pillager is not part of the etd DE roid fleet, so you can't count on that.
or else you could pick a lot worse (Mantis/locust/gnat, for instance)
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28 Aug 2009, 21:51
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
alright, round started - I started 1 tick late cause I forgot about pa! ( this will be a good round for sure! ) but now I m all ready to rock the uni with the awesomeness called xan fi/co.
Wish me the best of luck! <3
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Originally posted by Newt
I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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29 Aug 2009, 01:22
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
right, so after I managed to loose another res/cons tick cause I forgot to start cons / res! I took a look at stats.
Haha, it really makes no sense at all to build the bomber, does it?
no flak for it, shit inti, shit dmdg. I must say, I agree with those who said this was the worst combo.
Thanks <3
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Originally posted by Newt
I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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29 Aug 2009, 05:55
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
Just dont build it.
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29 Aug 2009, 12:13
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
just drop it, and have pure fi/co?
I could dist hoe....
wrong government for that though
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I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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29 Aug 2009, 12:19
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
Shouldnt be a huge problem to end t100 with pure xan fico in a decent gal with the availability of ally def.
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29 Aug 2009, 14:42
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
who said my aim was top 100? its top 3 man!!!!!!!!!!!
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I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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29 Aug 2009, 15:37
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
That wouldnt have happened no matter what race you had gone.
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
lies!
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I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
good luck wish, and bomber was way worse when it was at init 10.
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
I'm sorry but i cant stand this for this thread.
Zaejii worked hard and has made every race/fleet combo viable, He wouldnt of made stats which had obviously flaws.. Xan Fi/Co with Bombers are just as viable as Xan CR with Ghosts. I cant believe PA has got so many idiots who are saying that Xan Fi/Co sucks and other such things.. If it sucked, Zaejii wouldnt of left it in.
He spent time balancing these stats and making sure every single ship had a purpose, i personally find it insulting that you claim they are not.
[/Sarcasm] These are the worst shipstats ever. Next time, can we just let JBG design them.
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
alright, an update.
I exiled into cardi / elviz gal on first go.
Spose that just gave me a chance of ending high even with the worst possible combo. Unless cardi wants to kill me that is. Which might be the case <3
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Originally posted by Newt
I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
Do the "decent thing"....... exile out again.
(Go on - you know you want to).
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
hehe, last night first proper incs.
think I had 6 waves from ND with cr/bs.
no shock since I have like 0 bombers... needless to say, I got roided. 2ticks, so should be fairly alright to get the roids back in a couple of days! my fi fleet is starting to take shape!! soon I ll be a nightmare
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I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
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hehe, last night first proper incs.
think I had 6 waves from ND with cr/bs.
no shock since I have like 0 bombers... needless to say, I got roided. 2ticks, so should be fairly alright to get the roids back in a couple of days! my fi fleet is starting to take shape!! soon I ll be a nightmare
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
How is it going now?
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
You have to build the bombers because you asked for the worst combo and it is xan fi/co and bombers so get building them
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
yeah at least 30% of your value expected in bombers now wish
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9 Sep 2009, 13:41
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
nooooooooooooooooooo
I ve built some bombers guys. plz plz plz. dont make me build more
and theam, pretty horrible tbh. But I think thats 50% shit combo and 50% shit activity!
( 11:5:2 )
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I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
you need way more to become scary! have you looked at the distribution of the top 100 planets? they are almost all BS/CR! get building those bombers!
and more pulsars to stop FR fakes!
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
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you need way more to become scary! have you looked at the distribution of the top 100 planets? they are almost all BS/CR! get building those bombers!
and more pulsars to stop FR fakes!
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I got alot of pulsars! need em to roid ters and whatnot!
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I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
a short update!
I am doing quite alright. Found myself an etd fi teampartner ( love u jugjug ) and well, basicly I m not getting a whole lot of incs! 3 nights so far this round, roided 3 ticks...
because of this, somehow I am now over 1k roids. And heading towards the stars! Should be doable with some nice xpruns late round to end top30 atleast. Maybe higher. This all depends on how much incs I ll get I spose.
Soon 500k fi/co now. ftw!
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I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
get building those bombers
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
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get building those bombers
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What he said.
Thing is you will be butt****** once\if your gal ever gets inc though
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
I dont want to!
This is true. I m playing atm like a value planet, which I didnt plan preround. I might have to change and start going for xp
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I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
You arent building the worst fleet possible either to be fair.
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
whats the worst then?
I asked here preround man!
reset and try another combo?
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I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
I think he meant the fact you aren't putting like 25% of your value into bombers means you aren't really building the fi/co/bomber fleet
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
I m wide open for cr/bs though, but then again so would I be if I had 25% value in bombers, so ye
The DCs and the rest in vision kinda hate me enough as it is for having no anti cr/bs. Prodding bombers wouldnt help I assume.
I will however think about it!
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I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
Prodding bombers is pretty much the equivalent of putting 25% of your fleet value into sks just in case you run into someone with 50,000 structures.
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
Newest advanced unit scan on x:x:x (id: 74ykujd224di7nm, age: 7, value diff: 50226) Phantom 176827 | Pulsar 637978 | Sentinel 244573 | Illusion 12242 | Apparition 10091
Seriously wish, make 250k bombers at once. Or are you really going to go back on your promise to have the worst combo possible?
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Re: Worst possible combo r33
it was you who said dont build bombers! basicly, I have 0 anti cr/bs... how can that not be a horrible combo
and bombers = more than useless vs asc incs anyway, which is all I will be getting rest of the round I spose.
meh, I see ur point though, and I feel a bit bad for not getting those bombers!
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[Omen]
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Originally posted by Newt
I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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<JC`> i sent him a msg saying Wishmaster 0wns, so he recalled
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