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Unread 12 Feb 2004, 17:22   #151
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - "TNG"
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - "TNG"
It's back! Matches this weekend for everyone but Deffeh and Lokken.

I've redefined "almost" and recalculated all previous results accordingly.
I looked into many scoring systems (and other people's prediction leagues) to see what worked, and the best way to solve the problem was a whole new points system where X would be 5 (to be farther apart from other lower scoring rewards). That would confuse me as much as you, so G1,X3 has been "set in stone", and I've left out some stuff I'd like to see included.

SCORING SYSTEM
Code:
1 for G (general)
2 for A (almost)
3 for X (exact)

almost is  * G + home goals exact if you predicted a home win, or
           * G + away goals exact if you predicted an away win
           * any other draw if you predicted a draw 
           * G + correct goal margin

+1 for S (scorer)
+1 for T (time +/- 7)
+1 for B (bonus for both)
PREVIOUS RESULTS EDITED SLIGHTLY FOR NEW SCORING SYSTEM
No results affected, just minor adjustment in a handful of games.

Code:
Aston Villa   [midge5] v [LHC]           Leeds
3-0                   2-0                  2-0
Crouch               Angel               Angel
20                     45                   20
G                                           XS 
              midge5 1 - 4 LHC
Code:
Bolton    [JonnyBGood] v [Deffeh]    Liverpool 
1-2                   2-2                  1-3
Djorkaeff             Hunt              Kewell
27                     11                   25
          JonnyBGood 0 - 0 Deffeh
Code:
Everton      [Zharkov] v [Lupin]       Man Utd 
1-3                   3-4                  0-2
Van Nistelrooy       Saha              Scholes 
12                     9                    46
GT                                           G
              Zharkov 2 - 1 Lupin
Code:
Middlesbro [Evergreen] v [JC]        Blackburn 
1-1		      0-1                  1-2
Zenden               Stead           Flitcroft
62		       39                   37
                                            AT
           Evergreen 0 - 3 JC
Code:
Newcastle [MrL_JaKiri] v [Embroglio] Leicester
1-1                   3-1                  3-0
Shearer              Amoebi            Shearer
25                     30                   17
T                                            A
          MrL_Jakiri 1 - 2 Embroglio
Code:
Southampton  [Apothos] v [Rember]       Fulham 
2-0                   0-0                  0-1
Oakley                                    John
14                                          67
              Apothos 0-0 Rember
Code:
Tottenham   [Ragnarak] v [Lokken]   Portsmouth 
3-1                   4-3                  2-3
Keane                Defoe              Yakubu
22                     13                   12
G                                            T
            Ragnarak 1 - 1 Lokken
Code:
Wolves           [1-X] v [Rids]        Arsenal 
1-1	              1-3                  0-4
Henry		   Bergkamp	         Henry
46		       9	            22
                                             G
                 1-X 0 - 1 Rids
Code:
Man City      [Stew] v [Grimble]Birmingham
1-1                 0-0                2-1
Wright-Phillips                     Tarnat
34                                      32 
A
              Stew 2 - 0 Grimble
Code:
Chelsea [Blastoderm] v [Kurashima]Charlton
2-0                 1-0                2-1
Hasselbaink     Hasselbaink        Lampard
33		     28                 18
GSTB				         A
        Blastoderm 4 - 2 Kurashima

Code:
Arsenal        [Rids] v [Apothos]     Southampton
3-1                  2-0                      3-2
Reyes               Henry                   Henry  
22                    31                       17
A                                              GS
               Rids 2 - 2 Apothos
Code:
Leeds           [LHC] v [1-X]              Wolves
1-2                  4-1                      1-3
Viduka              Smith                   Ganea
15                    14                       20
T                                               T
                LHC 1 - 1 1-X
Code:
Leicester [Embroglio] v [JonnyBGood]       Bolton
0-1                  1-1                      1-2
Campo             Ferdinand                Davies
36                    16                       24

          Embroglio 0 - 0 JonnyBGood
Code:
Birmingham  [Grimble] v [Zharkov]         Everton  
0-2		     3-0	              1-2
Rooney		   Johnson               Ferguson
50		      08		       22

            Grimble 0 - 0 Zharkov
Code:
Fulham       [Rember] v [midge5]      Aston Villa 
2-2		     1-2	              1-2
John		  Boa Morte		  McBride
29  	  	      01		       17
                                                X
             Rember 0 - 3 midge5
Code:
Blackburn        [JC] v [MrL_JaKiri]    Newcastle  
2-1                  1-1                      2-1
Shearer             Bellamy                 Stead
16                    52                       30

                 JC 0 - 0 MrL_JaKiri
Code:
Charlton  [Kurashima] v [Ragnarak]      Tottenham
                     2-4                      1-3
		    Davies 		    Keane
		      10		       15
                                               AT
	  Kurashima 0 - 3 Ragnarak
Code:
Liverpool    [Deffeh] v [Stew]           Man City  
3-1                  2-1                      2-0
Kewell		     Owen		     Owen
33		      03		       42 
G                                              AS
             Deffeh 1 - 3 Stew
Code:
Man Utd       [Lupin] v [Evergreen] Middlesbrough 
2-0                  2-3		
Van Nistelrooy     Juninho
23                   34

              Lupin 0 - 0 Evergreen
Code:
Portsmouth   [Lokken] v [Blastoderm]      Chelsea
3-2                  0-2                      2-3
Mornar              Parker                Lampard
22		      17		       20
T                                              GT
             Lokken 1 - 2 Blastoderm
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - "TNG"
LEAGUE TABLE AFTER 2 GAMES
Code:
                     P W D L F A Pts
Blastoderm   Chelsea 2 2 0 0 6 3  6
Stew        Man City 2 2 0 0 5 1  6
LHC            Leeds 2 1 1 0 5 2  4
-----------------------------------
Ragnarak   Tottenham 2 1 1 0 4 1  4
JC         Blackburn 2 1 1 0 3 0  4
Rids         Arsenal 2 1 1 0 3 2  4
Embroglio  Leicester 2 1 1 0 2 1  4
Zharkov      Everton 2 1 1 0 2 1  4
midge5   Aston Villa 2 1 0 1 4 4  3
Apothos  Southampton 2 0 2 0 2 2  2
JonnyBGood    Bolton 2 0 2 0 0 0  2
Lokken    Portsmouth 2 0 1 1 2 4  1
1-X           Wolves 2 0 1 1 1 2  1
Lupin        Man Utd 2 0 1 1 1 2  1
MrL_JaKiri Newcastle 2 0 1 1 1 2  1
Deffeh     Liverpool 2 0 1 1 1 3  1
Grimble   Birmingham 2 0 1 1 0 2  1
-----------------------------------
Rember        Fulham 2 0 1 1 0 3  1
Evergreen Middlesbro 2 0 1 1 0 3  1
Kurashima   Charlton 2 0 0 2 2 7  0
it's time to make your predictions for

MATCH #3
Code:
Sat 21 Feb

Chelsea   [Blastoderm] v [Rids]         Arsenal
Man Utd        [Lupin] v [LHC]            Leeds
Bolton    [JonnyBGood] v [Stew]        Man City
Charlton   [Kurashima] v [JC]         Blackburn
Newcastle [MrL_JaKiri] v [Evergreen] Middlesbro
Southampton  [Apothos] v [Zharkov]      Everton
Wolves           [1-X] v [Rember]        Fulham

Sun 22 Feb

Aston Villa   [midge5] v [Grimble]   Birmingham
Tottenham   [Ragnarak] v [Embroglio]  Leicester
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Man Utd vs. Leeds 3 - 0

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Charlton [Kurashima] 1 v 2 [JC] Blackburn

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Southampton 2 - 1 Everton
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Bolton [JonnyBGood] 2 v 1 [Stew] Man City


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Newcastle 1 - 2 Boro.

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Wolves [1-X] 1 - 3 [Rember] Fulham

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Tottenham 4 - 1 Leicester

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Man Utd 3 - 2 Leeds
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I'd change that if I were you, it looks like Viduka will be suspended by FIFA by refusing to link up with Australia for their match today.
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Bolton 2-0 Man City

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Southampton 3 - 1 Everton
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - "TNG"
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - "TNG"
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - "TNG"
wolves 1 - 0 fulham
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last night I dreamt the result would be 2-3. I'm not changing it though. In a Wolves prediction league, I'm on 8 points from 16 games, so I expect to take up permanent residence in the bottom 3 here shortly.

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Re: [Football] Prediction League - "TNG"
Chelsea 1 - Arsenal 3
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - "TNG"
i have the idea:

the winners of this prediction season (Top 3) get avatars and the loosers get banned.

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Re: [Football] Prediction League - "TNG"
Evergreen didn't predict (though afaik he wasn't online all week) so that's easy points for MrL...
Embroglio hasn't either but he has another day to go.
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - "TNG"
Code:
Chelsea   [Blastoderm] v [Rids]         Arsenal
0-2		      1-2		    1-3
Henry		  Gudjohnson		  Henry
45  		       1		     22
A             Blasto 2 - 1 Rids               G
Code:
Man Utd        [Lupin] v [LHC]            Leeds
3-0		      1-1		    3-2
v.Nistelrooy	    Scholes		  Smith
29		       64		     20
               Lupin 0 - 0 LHC
Code:
Bolton    [JonnyBGood] v [Stew]        Man City
2-0		      1-3		    2-1
Djorkaeff            Nolan 		 Okocha
35		      22		     28
               Jonny 0 - 1 Stew               T
Code:
Charlton   [Kurashima] v [JC]         Blackburn
2-0		      3-2		    1-2
Johansson	      Cole		  Tugay
34		      10		     37
G               Kura 1 - 0 JC
Code:
					
Newcastle [MrL_JaKiri] v [Evergreen] Middlesbro
1-2		      2-1
Juninho              Zenden
35                     33
T                MrL 1 - 0 Evergreen
Code:
Southampton  [Apothos] v [Zharkov]      Everton
2-1		      3-3		    3-1
Watson		     Rooney		Beattie
34		       07		     22
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Code:
Wolves           [1-X] v [Rember]        Fulham
1-0		      2-1		    1-3
Ganea		     Ince		 Djetou
38		      20		     12
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darn i shouldda said wolves were the win
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ta very much

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Re: [Football] Prediction League - "TNG"
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Blastoderm   Chelsea 3 3 0 0 8 4  9
Stew        Man City 3 3 0 0 6 1  9
LHC            Leeds 3 1 2 0 5 2  5
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Zharkov      Everton 3 1 2 0 2 1  5
Ragnarak   Tottenham 2 1 1 0 4 1  4
Rids         Arsenal 3 1 1 1 4 4  4
JC         Blackburn 3 1 1 1 3 1  4
1-X           Wolves 3 1 1 1 3 2  4
Embroglio  Leicester 2 1 1 0 2 1  4
MrL_JaKiri Newcastle 3 1 1 1 2 2  4
midge5   Aston Villa 2 1 0 1 4 4  3
Kurashima   Charlton 3 1 0 2 3 7  3
Apothos  Southampton 3 0 3 0 2 2  3
Lupin        Man Utd 3 0 2 1 1 2  2
JonnyBGood    Bolton 3 0 2 1 0 1  2
Lokken    Portsmouth 2 0 1 1 2 4  1
Deffeh     Liverpool 2 0 1 1 1 3  1
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Grimble   Birmingham 2 0 1 1 0 2  1
Evergreen Middlesbro 3 0 1 2 0 4  1
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Cool - I didnt think I got any points today!!
Nice gap emerging
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another bore draw for me.

im great at predicting entirely the wrong winner. Luckily, so are my opponents
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Get in there!

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Can I just ask, stupid question, why did I lose today? heh
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Chelsea   [Blastoderm] v [Rids]         Arsenal
0-2		      1-2		    1-3
Henry		  Gudjohnson		  Henry
45  		       1		     22
A             Blasto 2 - 1 Rids               G
You're the first victim of the "redefined almost" rule.

Previously, it would have been a draw, but I reduced the range of results eligible for an almost point (because it was exploitable).

Basically, Blasto got an extra point because he correctly predicted Arsenal to score 2, while you said 3.
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Kinda like that awful new off-side rule.
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You're the first victim of the "redefined almost" rule.

Previously, it would have been a draw, but I reduced the range of results eligible for an almost point (because it was exploitable).

Basically, Blasto got an extra point because he correctly predicted Arsenal to score 2, while you said 3.
Did I predict Chelsea to score 1, where he predicted them to score 0 though? Or does that only count for the team that scores the most goals?
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - "TNG"
almost is
  • G + home goals exact if you predicted a home win
  • G + away goals exact if you predicted an away win
  • any other draw if you predicted a draw
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - "TNG"
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - "TNG"
I just noticed someone who didn't predict managed a draw the other week, I would say if people don't predict their opponents automatically win say 2-0.
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - "TNG"
it amused me that a completely wrong prediction is equal to no prediction at all

When all you have to do is get any small aspect of the prediction right to guarantee a win, you only have yourself to blame if you mess up your chance.

HOWEVER as it is possible a non-predictor can actually win a game (if the result is 0-0, and the active player predicted H/A win), I agree it would probably be fairest to have them automatically lose.

It's up to you lot...
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - "TNG"
These are the next ten games. As you can see, they're a long way off (but I never know if non-predictors have forgotten or are waiting for late team news).

From now on, I'll PM non-predictors approx. 48 hours before a match.

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Feb 28
Arsenal        [Rids] v [Kurashima]   Charlton
Blackburn        [JC] v [Apothos]  Southampton
Everton     [Zharkov] v [midge5]   Aston Villa
Fulham       [Rember] v [Lupin]        Man Utd
Leicester [Embroglio] v [1-X]           Wolves
Man City       [Stew] v [Blastoderm]   Chelsea

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Leeds           [LHC] v [Deffeh]     Liverpool
Portsmouth   [Lokken] v [MrL_JaKiri] Newcastle

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Birmingham  [Grimble] v [Evergreen] Middlesbro

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Arsenal 3 - 1 Charlton
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Re: [Football] Prediction League - "TNG"
Maybe next time Rids.
Anyway....

Man City 1 - 1 Chelsea

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FC Fulham - Manchester United 1 - 3

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Man City 1 - 2 Chelsea

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JC SUCKS!
We should have easily won. Stead hit the woodwork twice, Douglas missed 2 sitters, Di Canio should have been sent off, we had a blatent penalty turned down .

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At least Stead looks good - thats something to hold onto!
Never seen a keeper score and then let in one! Hehe!
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