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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
haha
and there goes another club. wasn't liverpool in about the same situation btw?
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
We're being shafted harder than a 9 yr old at a gary glitter birthday 'bash'
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
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and there goes another club
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Where do you expect them to disappear to?
I very much doubt he is going to buy the club and then watch them waste away into nothingness along with his money.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
if i had the money i would.
It would be hilarious to see Man Utd get relegated.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
It happened before when noone said it would.
I'd say the chances of it happening are not impossible, especially when fergie goes.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
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if i had the money i would.
It would be hilarious to see Man Utd get relegated.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
Businessmen are out to get you and your soul
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
"Nick Towle, chairman of fans' pressure group, Shareholders United, claimed he has ripped up his season ticket."
Pld, with all of one match to go.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
I blame George Bush.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
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"Nick Towle, chairman of fans' pressure group, Shareholders United, claimed he has ripped up his season ticket."
Pld, with all of one match to go.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
From what ive been told the deal goes a little something like this
glazer: want that one
banker: what?
glazer: want that one
banker: that what?
glazer: club, want that club
banker: you want man utd?
glazer: yeah
banker: well have you got the money?
glazer: no
banker: so you want man utd but don't have the money to buy it?
glazer: yeah
banker: so how do you intend to buy it?
glazer: you give me money
banker: we'll need to secure a loan against something
glazer: like wha?
banker: assets, do you have any assets?
glazer: give me moneh and secure against man utd
banker: so we'll give you the money to buy manchester united and we'll secure it against manchester united
glazer: yeah
banker: how will you make the money back?
glazer: club success
banker: erm
glazer: ticket prices
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
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"Nick Towle, chairman of fans' pressure group, Shareholders United, claimed he has ripped up his season ticket."
Pld, with all of one match to go.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
Surely Nick Towle is a pillock.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
I assume they meant his season ticket renewal form, but who knows.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
Did he rip up his towel as well lol
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
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Did he rip up his towel as well lol
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
I feel an article for SI Games coming on
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
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Jules Spencer, chairman of the Independent Manchester United Supporters Association is ready to take radical action.
"If this is to be the end then we will go down kicking and screaming," he said.
"If Glazer does get control, then we will up sticks and form a new club which will continue the traditions and heritage and the legacy of 125 years of Manchester United.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
I seriously don't get what all these united fans are so worried over. Do you honestly think malcolm glazer took over manchester united because he wanted control of the third best team in england so he could asset strip them? For Utd to be successful from a marketing point of view they're going to have to start winning trophies (this means the premiership or the champions league) again. The club is already run as a business for god's sake.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
but he'll fund the takeover by taking out loans on man utd assets and then raise ticket prices through the roof to cover the repayments...
(ha ha btw)
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
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I seriously don't get what all these united fans are so worried over. Do you honestly think malcolm glazer took over manchester united because he wanted control of the third best team in england so he could asset strip them? For Utd to be successful from a marketing point of view they're going to have to start winning trophies (this means the premiership or the champions league) again. The club is already run as a business for god's sake.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
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For Utd to be successful from a marketing point of view they're going to have to start winning trophies (this means the premiership or the champions league) again. The club is already run as a business for god's sake.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
He's not funding the takeover by taking out loans. He's funding his business plan for the club by taking out loans. His business plan involves making money back. It's hardly like ticket prices at manchester united have never gone up before heh. To give the man his dues he's shown his ability to increase profit margins before. It's not some random incompetent git taking charge of the club who's going to go and put it on a roulette wheel in las vegas and see what happens.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
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I seriously don't get what all these united fans are so worried over. Do you honestly think malcolm glazer took over manchester united because he wanted control of the third best team in england so he could asset strip them? For Utd to be successful from a marketing point of view they're going to have to start winning trophies (this means the premiership or the champions league) again. The club is already run as a business for god's sake.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
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He's not funding the takeover by taking out loans. He's funding his business plan for the club by taking out loans. His business plan involves making money back. It's hardly like ticket prices at manchester united have never gone up before heh. To give the man his dues he's shown his ability to increase profit margins before. It's not some random incompetent git taking charge of the club who's going to go and put it on a roulette wheel in las vegas and see what happens.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
I'll get my financial advice from someone other than the Independent Manchester United Supporter's Association. I severely doubt a single one of them has any clue of what his business plan involves beyond SELL MANCHESTER UNITED I KELL YOOOOU! Personally I'm not all that skeptical that a highly successful business man will be able to make a greater profit with the club. Sure they were already overtaken by real madrid this year in overall marketing. I'm not sure what you mean by my club, I'm not a united fan (unless it's just the line from the ad you mentioned!)
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
He's an American businessman and therefore he obviously intends to ride around Manchester on his horse eating babies, raping the womenfolk, plundering churches, and terrifying chickens.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
Why do Man Utd fans never get to watch MOTD?
Because they are travelling back to London on the train.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
How about we all stop being a bunch of melodramatic faggots and see what happens?
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
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How about we all stop being a bunch of melodramatic faggots and see what happens?
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Weeell. Okay. I wasn't ever 'against' the deal or someone buying a public company for profit. My views are somewhere between the two camps, i think the supporters are going abit OTT at the same time im a but 'hmmmm' about the whole deal.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
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How about we all stop being a bunch of melodramatic faggots and see what happens?
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Spoken like a man without a ****ing clue what goes on north of the watford gap.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
I think that the Glazer deal will improve British Football 200%
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
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I think that the Glazer deal will improve the debt levels within British Football 200%
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
i'd love to see manu go bankrupt tbh.
just to see fergie cry.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
I think it's strange to see people (particularly those who support the lower premiership teams) laughing at this. If Man Utd pull out of the collective TV-rights dealings, do you really think Arsenal and Chelsea (and Newcastle/Liverpool/Everton maybe) won't do likewise? Leaving those lower clubs with absolutely no bargaining power?
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
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Where do you expect them to disappear to?
I very much doubt he is going to buy the club and then watch them waste away into nothingness along with his money.
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Did you not hear what he did to the Buccaneers?
That is his every intention to sell the good players, merchandise and then fk off with the money
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
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i'd love to see manu go bankrupt tbh.
just to see fergie cry.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
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Did you not hear what he did to the Buccaneers?
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
the point is (as far as i understand it) how are man u going to win trophies when they cant buy any players due to the fact that they technically have 200mil worth of debt?
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the point is (as far as i understand it) how are man u going to win trophies when they cant buy any players due to the fact that they technically have 200mil worth of debt?
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It'll be secured debt you ninny. Manchester United still turned a pre-tax profit this year, even after buying Rooney, Smith and Heinze.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
Wish Derby got £20mill a year to spend on new players
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
it's derby.
they'd buy pies with it or something.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
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it's derby.
they'd buy pies with it or something.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
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Wish Derby got £20mill a year to spend on new players
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I doubt it will be enough to help Man U win the title though. They could do with buying at least a new keeper and a top quality central midfielder, as well as some better squad players. Even Wigan are talking about spending up to 20 million in the summer.
Chelsea on the other hand will no doubt go out and buy a proper goalscorer (~30 million) a new left back and a midfielder or 2 (+40 million if they want Gerrard). They'll probably keep most of their squad players too with Smertin, Parker, Huth and Forsell being possible exceptions off the top of my head.
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Re: [football] laughing at man utd fans
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Bad comparison. Wigan are bankrolled by a sugar daddy. I'd doubt more than Wigan, Chelsea and Man Utd will spend £20m or above over the summer.
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Yes i realise that, Whelan is a Rovers fan. I brought them up just to show that a team that is aiming for mid-table at best could be willing to spend that much, so if Man U want to compete with Chelsea they are going to have to think closer to 50 million, at least for next season. If they bring in some good youths ala Arsenal they could save themselves a lot of money in the future but at the moment they dont seem to have (m)any coming through.
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Yes i realise that, Whelan is a Rovers fan. I brought them up just to show that a team that is aiming for mid-table at best could be willing to spend that much, so if Man U want to compete with Chelsea they are going to have to think closer to 50 million, at least for next season. If they bring in some good youths ala Arsenal they could save themselves a lot of money in the future but at the moment they dont seem to have (m)any coming through.
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I personally think Promotion -> mid table is a bigger improvement than Manchester United -> Chelsea.
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Hes up to 74.81%. At 75% , he can take the club private. And his plans apparently leverage the club with a total debt of £265 Million. Now considering that Leeds went into receivership at £90M, Id say its "Game Over" for Man U fans, and they can consider the club in a new era of total uncertainty.
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