For a start, people are welcome to hurl insults at me at any time. I am well prepared to defend how I moderate, as for me there's not much to defend and no need for anyone to help me out, but thanks to those who have, I guess.
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Originally Posted by Marka
First of all sorry that I put this in AD but the events occured here and because of that I think it's appropriate.
Above we see 3 examples of the usual AD posting style by several people - all are from the same thread (could've easily digged out more).
The general tone is very aggresive and insulting a group of people in the game - or only certain members.
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I allow aggression and put downs on the forum, as long as it is within context. For example, I had no problem with Pilgrims '1down' comments, they were pretty entertaining. Where the insults get out of hand, I warn users publically about their behaviour
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They have another thing in common - all 3 posters are regular posters have a load of green dots and other posts of the same kind - and they are still able to post here.
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This is really bad logic as just two days ago I banned an alliance colleague from here and regular poster Heartless for breaking the rules. We've banned his clones since. I've banned people I'm friends with on IRC before, I've banned Idler who is one of the most experienced users on this forum, to suggest I fear or rule out banning anyone is very much mistaken.
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Then we have this thread
http://pirate.planetarion.com/showthread.php?t=192027
I admit it's not the best thread - but it says even in topic what it contains and what can be expected. The one who posted - Judge - ain't the first to call another group in the game cheaters nor will he be the last.
However he didn't use any bad language and did write in a pretty ironic style.
Now he got banned for a month from this forums.
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Judge was not banned for that thread. I clearly stated when I closed the thread that this was the kind of post I didn't want. I made my opinion clear on the thread on its first instance, the second instance then on the Readme on this forum, which will be deleted in a few days time.
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Originally Posted by Judge
They will play, I have it on good authourity that at this very moment they are busy installing remote access software in all their members for next rounds PC's and in Kargool's butt.
:-)
bet u a pound to a pinch of <brown stuff from the anus> I get my forum account closed for the above
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In the end this is what got Judge closed. This was pretty much all out begging for a ban, especially when I requested that people stopped chucking their weight around about cheating, so he got what he asked for.
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I am asking the Community and the Mods - what is worse - calling a group of ppl cheaters - or insulting someone directly in the style of the above posts?
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I allow discussion to flow - if I went round deleting everything, it would interrupt discussion and I don't have all day to moderate you lot (although if jolt want to pay me a salary to do it full time they are welcome to offer me one)
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Do people with 500+ posts have more rights than irregulare posters?
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As above
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Are some mods biased towards certain people/alliances/opinions?
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I have opinions. They don't affect my modding, which is why I was appointed and why I am still here. I have said on several occasions that I pretty much have a large distaste for 1up and Exilition, I have no reason to protect them but did so because Judge offered no evidence of exi cheating
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Imho the ban was in no way justifiable. This here is an discussion platform where everyone has it's own opinion and should be able to express it. The mods shouldn't prosecute based on the opinion someone has but on the way he is expressing them - insulting other people/groups should be a reason for banning.
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I agree that the way things are expressed is very important, but sometimes quoting bits of posts does not work - you have to read the whole post in context. My role here is to promote discussion and to keep it rational - discussing whether someone is cheating without any kind of evidence, or any kind of closures from the multihunters (who weigh up the evidence and delete it) does not lead to rational discussion. There are players who I think have been cheating, but I have not named them on the forum, as if the multihunters weren't interested, it's wasted hard disk space. Yet again, i'll state the forums are not a democracy
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SubH suck, 1up suck, PAteam sucks, eXi cheats.
Some opinions which all have their followers - but apparently you only get banned for the latter....
Regards
Marka
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That's because people can offer justification or reasonable opinion for topics 1, 2 and 3. All people say with topic 4 is 'exi cheat because they do well'. Well that isn't good enough to warrant discussion in my book and only leads to the most terrific flame war.
And that's the bottom line because stone cold says so (<3 JBG)
But anyway, I hope this is a satisfactory reply. I'm closing the thread. If people want to call me shit or whatever they are welcome to do so by pm on IRC/forums or via the rep function if they think I give a hoot about my rep.