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Unread 26 Sep 2003, 08:44   #1
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Dragons and Fang's allies

Who are they? seen so many threads about the "supposed" first block, wanna know who the bad guys are.
So anyone know what the other side is supposed to be?
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Unread 26 Sep 2003, 09:31   #2
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well in retrospect to the past week(s) of AD block hystaria...

most seems to be created from FAnG command.... legitimizing their now present relations.

i speak from the 'eternal wisdom' of being one of the VOM creators:

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Unread 26 Sep 2003, 10:57   #3
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Fang and Dragons have indeed allied. However, they have a special "who u gonna attack today other than each other" arrangement atm although as days go by, its gettting more and more coordinated in thier attacks. These 'hidden block arrangement" involves fang/dragons/wp/nd although its fang/dragons that work more closely with each other. They dont have any "official" naping with each other so they can "claim" complete innocence to blocking all the while focusing on other alliances except themselves to weaken any opposition.
They also have a clever attack stragegy of providing gal status on attacks to member gals (fang/dragons not hit ofc) and it doesnt matter to them since they have another planet in another galaxy anyway. Do not forget that a good portion of last round's LDK joined dragons for this round and we all know how they play. They mysteriously go offline when they can provide defence in gal or will claim thier fleets are out which is very convenient. If it was me, I would exile them asap and hope they land in c2-22 and roided for being such tratiors to thier own galaxys. Do not forget that all of this can and is being accomplished without having to let most of the rank and file know what's going on except trusted favored members within these alliances. All I can say is good luckk DraFa.
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Unread 26 Sep 2003, 11:06   #4
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now that we ave the 2 sides sorted out , who are the good guys and who are the bad

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Unread 26 Sep 2003, 11:10   #5
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Do not forget that a good portion of last round's LDK joined dragons for this round and we all know how they play.

How many LDK went to Dragons?
Just curious..
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Unread 26 Sep 2003, 11:13   #6
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Unread 26 Sep 2003, 11:23   #7
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now Dragons and FAnG have effectively admitted to blocking, when are VGN and Sera going to say?
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...and the LDK's that haven't joined Dragoons, joined Fang...I heard....
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now that we ave the 2 sides sorted out , who are the good guys and who are the bad

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now that we ave the 2 sides sorted out , who are the good guys and who are the bad
Who are the 2 sides?

I see here claims of Dragons/FAnG (in some sort of cooperation with WP/ND).

WHo are the other side?
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Unread 26 Sep 2003, 12:39   #12
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Unread 26 Sep 2003, 12:45   #13
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Unread 26 Sep 2003, 12:47   #14
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oh come on piss off......

1. if we are the bad guys, why do we have 130 hostile planets from 3 certain alliances i wont name here on our overviews each night???
2. what kind of cooperation is there supposed to be with wp again??? as far as i know wp is happily attacking whoever they want in blissfull neutrality and waiting for the hour when eet and fang have killed each other.
3. ND, well i have never even talked to a single ND member or hc/officer this round.

please go and get a clue mate, your posts have been lacking lately.

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Unread 26 Sep 2003, 12:47   #15
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How many LDK went to Dragons?
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can't be many. I, as a member, don't know anyone tbh.
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Unread 26 Sep 2003, 12:55   #16
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oh come on piss off......

1. if we are the bad guys, why do we have 130 hostile planets from 3 certain alliances i wont name here on our overviews each night???
2. what kind of cooperation is there supposed to be with wp again??? as far as i know wp is happily attacking whoever they want in blissfull neutrality and waiting for the hour when eet and fang have killed each other.
3. ND, well i have never even talked to a single ND member or hc/officer this round.

please go and get a clue mate, your posts have been lacking lately.

and bigjoe: if you cant be arsed to post under your real nick, but must hide behind a fake nick dont bother coming here, because everyone can see what kind of bs you post
my posts have indeed been lacking lately, might be because i've been away for almost 2 months and just recently (read less than protection time) joined PAX. I'm just taking the piss.
Dont take it personal
But i dont stand corrected, we are the good guys.. we always are.. dunno the political scene this round so i wont comment on that
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Unread 26 Sep 2003, 12:56   #17
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afaik most of the lithuanian LDK players have quit PA but some of the non-lith LDK have joined both FAnG and Dragons dunn how many though ,

but im sure if u ask then really nicely they will tell u
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can't be many. I, as a member, don't know anyone tbh.
exactly
Which takes away all credibility (if there was any to begin with) of that post.
Majority of last round's LDK (incl me) went to FAnG, well those that didn't quit atleast
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Unread 26 Sep 2003, 12:59   #19
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afaik most of the lithuanian LDK players have quit PA but some of the non-lith LDK have joined both FAnG and Dragons dunn how many though ,

but im sure if u ask then really nicely they will tell u
hmm, i counted 6 so far, not really that big a number....
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now that we ave the 2 sides sorted out , who are the good guys and who are the bad

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what? have the lithuanians quit pa.. who are we going to slag off then?
what happened, did they shut down THE internet cafe over there?
i dont believe all of em quit, but it's impossible to say for sure that all old ldk's joined one alliance.. i'm sure they are pretty much spread in diff alliances.. that would be the smartest of the old ldk community, they can get more def that way and an easier way to jump ships when that time come, because u then got good friends in the not so sinking ship.. that's just my conspiracy theory
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what? have the lithuanians quit pa.. who are we going to slag off then?
what happened, did they shut down THE internet cafe over there?
i dont believe all of em quit, but it's impossible to say for sure that all old ldk's joined one alliance.. i'm sure they are pretty much spread in diff alliances.. that would be the smartest of the old ldk community, they can get more def that way and an easier way to jump ships when that time come, because u then got good friends in the not so sinking ship.. that's just my conspiracy theory
i think jolt isnt accepting payments from lithuania, which sort of stops them from playing for real.
we got 2 real ones, who got their accs payed by generous fang members.
aside from that we got scorpio and a few others
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Wait... FANG are allied?

But surely it was FanG people who were flaming Eclipse earlier in the round for rumours about allying (which were false)?
So if Eclipse were so evil for this supposedly allying, why is it ok for you to do it?

Pathetic. Can't fight your own battles.
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Wait... FANG are allied?

But surely it was FanG people who were flaming Eclipse earlier in the round for rumours about allying (which were false)?
So if Eclipse were so evil for this supposedly allying, why is it ok for you to do it?

Pathetic. Can't fight your own battles.
and here we go again,
some people say FAnG is allied to dragons (i cant make that D on my comp so sue me).
others say you are allied to ToT and Ely.
i got rather clear proof that all 3 of you are hostile and targetting FAnG exclusively, whats your proof for you conspriacy theory?
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Wait... FANG are allied?

But surely it was FanG people who were flaming Eclipse earlier in the round for rumours about allying (which were false)?
So if Eclipse were so evil for this supposedly allying, why is it ok for you to do it?

Pathetic. Can't fight your own battles.
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and here we go again,
some people say FAnG is allied to dragons (i cant make that D on my comp so sue me).
others say you are allied to ToT and Ely.
i got rather clear proof that all 3 of you are hostile and targetting FAnG exclusively, whats your proof for you conspriacy theory?
I can assure you that those 3 dont target FAnG exclusively... atleast not all of them..
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I can assure you that those 3 dont target FAnG exclusively... atleast not all of them..
Eclipse did so far galraids apart from one night were we retalled Fang planets hitting us (10 of them in total).
So how in gods name can we target Fang exclusively unless you have private 10 fangmember gals ?
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oh come on piss off......

1. if we are the bad guys, why do we have 130 hostile planets from 3 certain alliances i wont name here on our overviews each night???
What, good guys don't attack? Bad guys don't get attacked? I'm confused.
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Fang and Dragons have indeed allied. However, they have a special "who u gonna attack today other than each other" arrangement atm although as days go by, its gettting more and more coordinated in thier attacks. These 'hidden block arrangement" involves fang/dragons/wp/nd although its fang/dragons that work more closely with each other. They dont have any "official" naping with each other so they can "claim" complete innocence to blocking all the while focusing on other alliances except themselves to weaken any opposition.
They also have a clever attack stragegy of providing gal status on attacks to member gals (fang/dragons not hit ofc) and it doesnt matter to them since they have another planet in another galaxy anyway. Do not forget that a good portion of last round's LDK joined dragons for this round and we all know how they play. They mysteriously go offline when they can provide defence in gal or will claim thier fleets are out which is very convenient. If it was me, I would exile them asap and hope they land in c2-22 and roided for being such tratiors to thier own galaxys. Do not forget that all of this can and is being accomplished without having to let most of the rank and file know what's going on except trusted favored members within these alliances. All I can say is good luckk DraFa.
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Eclipse did so far galraids apart from one night were we retalled Fang planets hitting us (10 of them in total).
So how in gods name can we target Fang exclusively unless you have private 10 fangmember gals ?
that doesnt really negate my post does it?
and eclipse targeting 10 fangmembers (6 of which never attacked ecl this round, so who are you retalling for excactly? ely?) and almost no one else in that night, does mean rather exclusive targeting doesnt it?
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Eclipse did so far galraids apart from one night were we retalled Fang planets hitting us (10 of them in total).
So how in gods name can we target Fang exclusively unless you have private 10 fangmember gals ?
I was one of those 10. I got 2 waves of a pretty pathetic incoming. I have a mix of alliances in gal and barely got any defence with most ppl online and only me being hit.

Tot guy: I warned him before the incs and he conveniently wasn't around.
Eclipse guy: Feeble excuses but didn't expect him to defend against his own ally.
Ely guy: Offline all evening til my incs were eta 5 or 6. Fleets home and loads of time for def - and nothing.

Cynical people might say certain alliances were told not to defend fang planets. Would that constitute an alliance or a block?

It was also pretty difficult to get any def as it seemed about every single fang planet had incs that night. Either single planet hits like myself in mainly EET gals or ful gal raids but almost the whole lot was hit.
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Unread 26 Sep 2003, 15:41   #33
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I was one of those 10. I got 2 waves of a pretty pathetic incoming. I have a mix of alliances in gal and barely got any defence with most ppl online and only me being hit.

Tot guy: I warned him before the incs and he conveniently wasn't around.
Eclipse guy: Feeble excuses but didn't expect him to defend against his own ally.
Ely guy: Offline all evening til my incs were eta 5 or 6. Fleets home and loads of time for def - and nothing.

Cynical people might say certain alliances were told not to defend fang planets. Would that constitute an alliance or a block?

It was also pretty difficult to get any def as it seemed about every single fang planet had incs that night. Either single planet hits like myself in mainly EET gals or ful gal raids but almost the whole lot was hit.
Since FAnG decided to declare war against several alliances, I don't see any reasoins why galm8s should defend hostile planets in their gals.
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where did they declare war?
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Attacking top players of an alliance might be seen as war declaration =/
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very true i just thought that they had made an offical announcment on the boards that i missed
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Attacking top players of an alliance might be seen as war declaration =/
You're kidding right?
So it would have been ok if we attacked all the lower ranked players of those alliances, as long as we stayed away from the top players?

You can't be that stupid..
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I was one of those 10. I got 2 waves of a pretty pathetic incoming. I have a mix of alliances in gal and barely got any defence with most ppl online and only me being hit.

Tot guy: I warned him before the incs and he conveniently wasn't around.
Eclipse guy: Feeble excuses but didn't expect him to defend against his own ally.
Ely guy: Offline all evening til my incs were eta 5 or 6. Fleets home and loads of time for def - and nothing.

Cynical people might say certain alliances were told not to defend fang planets. Would that constitute an alliance or a block?

It was also pretty difficult to get any def as it seemed about every single fang planet had incs that night. Either single planet hits like myself in mainly EET gals or ful gal raids but almost the whole lot was hit.
So us retalling 2 waves on a fangplanet is a declaration of war. The ely member not beeing around all evening is also a conspiracy about Fang same as the ToT galm8 who even warns you about a retal which might be comeing on you (i would guess tot attacked you since we made usually 3 waves and didnt share our plans with anyone),
I cant see really how many rumors you can pull together to make it look even more pathetic.
One last question: if 3 alliances were out to hit you why did fang survive ?
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So us retalling 2 waves on a fangplanet is a declaration of war.
Get your propaganda in line with Storebo. He said we declared war.


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One last question: if 3 alliances were out to hit you why did fang survive ?
Coz you're as crap as you were last round?
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So us retalling 2 waves on a fangplanet is a declaration of war. The ely member not beeing around all evening is also a conspiracy about Fang same as the ToT galm8 who even warns you about a retal which might be comeing on you (i would guess tot attacked you since we made usually 3 waves and didnt share our plans with anyone),
I cant see really how many rumors you can pull together to make it look even more pathetic.
One last question: if 3 alliances were out to hit you why did fang survive ?
seems you cant read mister focht

the tot member didnt warn him, HE warned the tot member that incomming might be expected, after which the tot member made a fast exit instead of staying around which the usual loyal gal member would do.

and stop the retal story, its a coverup and we both know it.
before that night FAnG took special care to stay away from eclipse, because we did not want to start a war too early.
fact is you ordered 10 fang planets specifically attacked while leaving out the galaxies.
all 10 members were in gals with heavy eet presence. all gal members knew of the incommings, and all were suddenly away
looking suspicious yet?
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I'm not sure if i recall correctly, but didnt eclipse end on top in the last counting round (round 9).
Oh, i was right... damn that's weird.. scorpio said we were ****..
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The First Block

Those of u that know me will kno i h8 n00bs shouting off their mouths about things they cant comprehend......and that i rarely can be arsed to post of teh forums

nyway the 1st block this round was tot/ecl which we do know went down....tot seemed to have minded their own business for now growing ect, and now seems ecl/ely r coordinating and we had about 130 hosiles a few nights bakk which we know were from ecl/ely and have proof ^^ and be4 any1 suggests it no it wasnt coincidence.

now u can spam away picking meh typing apart and go on about all the 'secret' allies that u can possibly dream up....
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I'm not sure if i recall correctly, but didnt eclipse end on top in the last counting round (round 9).
Oh, i was right... damn that's weird.. scorpio said we were ****..
fyi, I said "round", not "counting round".
That's why I can make the comparison with 9.5, in which Eclipse failed miserably. Should have disbanded then. Just face it, the Eclipse/ToT combination failed in r9.5 and it will fail again. (Too bad you're taking ToT down with you, as they're quite a bit better than Eclipse )

And so what if Eclipse ended on top r9, wasn't because they were good or anything. It was because the rest sucked even more, very simple.
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Those of u that know me will kno i h8 n00bs shouting off their mouths about things they cant comprehend......and that i rarely can be arsed to post of teh forums

nyway the 1st block this round was tot/ecl which we do know went down....tot seemed to have minded their own business for now growing ect, and now seems ecl/ely r coordinating and we had about 130 hosiles a few nights bakk which we know were from ecl/ely and have proof ^^ and be4 any1 suggests it no it wasnt coincidence.

now u can spam away picking meh typing apart and go on about all the 'secret' allies that u can possibly dream up....
I just love these blocking threads.. they are always so entertaining.. here we can flame each other and tell em exactly how much we wub em..
tis ok fang dont want to be blamed, but ffs they dont have to start tons of threads with the same message.. next is a flashback from an earlier round with the "Proud to be FAnG" threads
i'm seriously bored atm.
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lol BA i just wub reading teh responses give me a gud laff

+ this is our 1st one
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It is quite amusing to see ideas such as a nd / wp / fang / dragons powerblock, I speak on behalf of FAnG when i say we wont block, let alone powerblock.
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lol BA i just wub reading teh responses give me a gud laff

+ this is our 1st one
i dont sleep good at nights, that might be the reason for why i count so bad... i also love the responses, some of them are actually quite fun.. but AD is getting so fking onetracked... tis always one alliance who gets the blame and flame.. it was better in the old days when people flamed fury, legion and xanadu then we had 3 hordes of forum trolls working full time.. now it's only a few ppl.. and hicks aint posting anymore
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no?

And seriously, FAnG did flame about eclipse block, and now they are whining about Having their members targetted?? This IS a wargame...well it was atleast
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fyi, I said "round", not "counting round".
That's why I can make the comparison with 9.5, in which Eclipse failed miserably. Should have disbanded then. Just face it, the Eclipse/ToT combination failed in r9.5 and it will fail again. (Too bad you're taking ToT down with you, as they're quite a bit better than Eclipse )

And so what if Eclipse ended on top r9, wasn't because they were good or anything. It was because the rest sucked even more, very simple.
r 9.5 wasnt taken seriously by many of eclipse members.. i know that many of the command group wasnt considering as an important round either.. just a "practice" for the next round. to keep the community alive...
Now i aint an eclipse member nor a commandmember so i dont know kinda plans eclipse have for this round... so i shall not make statement about it
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now seems ecl/ely r coordinating and we had about 130 hosiles a few nights bakk which we know were from ecl/ely and have proof
I'm sure you have just as much "proof" as those n00bs.
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