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22 Jan 2005, 02:12
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dazed and confused
Join Date: Apr 2004
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stat changes for the speedgame
these are the changes in the stats for the speedgame (or should be at any rate)
Changes
Terran:
Harpy: Armour changed from 6 to 5.
Phoenix: Init changed from 4 to 3.
Gryphon: Armour changed from 32 to 26; damage changed from 27 to 26.
Centaur: Armour changed from 45 to 34; damage changed from 34 to 32.
Chimera: Armour changed from 60 to 54; damage changed from 55 to 50.
Pegasus: Armour changed from 130 to 120.
Hydra: Armour changed from 160 to 130; damage changed from 130 to 120.
Dragon: Armour changed from 250 to 240; damage changed from 255 to 245.
Cathaar:
Spider: Armour changed from 4 to 5; damage changed from 4 to 6.
Beetle: Armour changed from 6 to 8; damage changed from 8 to 11.
Defender: Damage changed from 60 to 70.
Roach: Armour changed from 90 to 100.
Black Widow: Armour changed from 90 to 110.
Tarantula: Damage changed from 165 to 210.
Guardian: Armour changed from 210 to 250.
Mosquito: Armour changed from 35 to 45.
Basilisk: Armour changed from 125 to 145; damage changed from 100 to 120.
Xandrithi:
Vsharrak Fighter: Armour changed from 2 to 3; damage changed from 4 to 5;
cost changed from 300 to 350 of each resource.
Daeraith Pulsar: Damage changed from 5 to 7; cost changed from 400 to 450 of
each resource.
Lyvidian Sentinel: Damage changed from 13 to 15; cost changed from 900 to
950 of each resource.
Culdassa Arrowhead: Damage changed from 20 to 25; init changed from 4 to 3.
Andvordian Bomber: Damage changed from 50 to 65.
Tzen Bolt Thrower: Init changed from 5 to 4
Hysperian Lancer: Damage changed from 75 to 85; init changed from 5 to 6.
Cryveli Broadsword: Damage changed from 110 to 130.
Dreadnought: Damage changed from 165 to 185.
Dagger: Damage changed from 5 to 6.
Voracean: Armour changed from 18 to 20; damage changed from 20 to 32.
Zikonian
Cutlass: Armour changed from 15 to 17; damage changed from 14 to 16.
Thief: Damage type changed from normal to subvert; init changed from 4 to 2;
damage changed from 28 to 23.
Cutter: Init changed from 4 to 5.
Bucaneer: Damage type changed from subvert to normal; init changed from 2 to 4;
damage changed from 65 to 55.
Rogue: Damage changed from 220 to 240.
Galleon: Class change from Battleship to Destoyer; cost reduced from
15500/15500/17000 to 7000/7000/9000; armour changed from 250 to 120; damage
changed from 200 to 100.
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Last edited by TheBerk; 22 Jan 2005 at 09:17.
Reason: cheers for the heads up MrPedantic
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22 Jan 2005, 03:44
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Re: stat changes for the speedgame
Dragon damage is 245, not 250.
thats the only thing i can see wrong tho
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22 Jan 2005, 04:44
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Jolt's best friend
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Re: stat changes for the speedgame
why the changes to the xand fighters?
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22 Jan 2005, 11:20
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The Original Terran
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Afghan atm
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Re: stat changes for the speedgame
Is it just me or has terran been completely downgraded in every dept (cept destroyers) and no increase in anything cept pheonixes which ppl hardly use apart from against terrans but then pheonixes have always shot before them anyway so really everyone got improved except the terrans who always get picked on 
Now i am p$Sed of.
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22 Jan 2005, 11:32
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Forever Noob
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Holland
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Re: stat changes for the speedgame
Omg, terrans suck now, they were already pretty weak compared to rest r12, and now even worse :-\ And have cutlass now been changed to kill ship?
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22 Jan 2005, 11:32
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Re: stat changes for the speedgame
Comments, if these were to be used for a real round, as opposed to a speedround:
Surely terrans are a bit of a whipping boy now? I've thought about this for 5 seconds, but the downgraded init of arrowheads, an (and xand) FR attacks are even less efficient. Basically, the terrans have lost their advantages and look kinda.... bad.
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22 Jan 2005, 11:52
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Grumpy old git
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Re: stat changes for the speedgame
Or put into a website for easy comparison:
http://www.dahle.info/div/speedstats/
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22 Jan 2005, 13:24
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Inactive peon
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Re: stat changes for the speedgame
remember speedgames are different from a main round - for example cath is allways signficantly improved for speed games as otherwise they get destroyed far to easily, speed game stats are not allways about perfect balence
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22 Jan 2005, 15:45
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Forever Noob
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Holland
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Re: stat changes for the speedgame
True, just seems terans have really been downgraded a LOT.
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<Zhil> I order the immediate return of my property
<Zhil> No 1up member should steal from another
<[MO]Forest> no 1up should attcak a 1up gal without permission form hc
<Zhil> I am HC
<Zhil> I gave myself permission
<[MO]Forest> i meant a proper hc, not a hc who would suicide into his MO's fleet
Played r4-9.5 r12-14 Now retired.
Proud to have been Cosmic Frostbite (r12 - 22:5 - #1 gal)
Forever [4D] - LCH, ND, Absolute, TFD, DLR
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22 Jan 2005, 17:24
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Netherlands
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Re: stat changes for the speedgame
Rogue: Damage changed from 220 to 240.
That was really a neccesarity  Oh well, not playing anyways, so why bother.
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R1: ??:?? | R2: 51:6 | R3: 37:12 | R4: 186:13 | R5: 13:17 | R6: 1:25
R7: 15:14 | R8: 34:4 / 52:10 ¤ | R9: 16:2 | R9.5: 34:6 / 41:6 ¤
R10: 2:2 | R10.5: 15:4 | R11: 28:8 | R12: 22:9
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Last edited by General Martok; 22 Jan 2005 at 17:26.
Reason: spelling
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22 Jan 2005, 18:34
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Forever Noob
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Holland
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Re: stat changes for the speedgame
Races
Race Count (%) Best Planet Score Rank
Terran 147 (24%) Tinky Winky OF Teletubbieland (11:5:8) 215.329 118
Cathaar 98 (16%) Tranquility OF Outer Space (9:9:3) 495.334 1
Xandathrii 169 (27%) Minister OF Development (7:6:5) 405.086 6
Zikonian 196 (32%) BlenderBoy OF Shake (4:6:5) 448.520 3
Heh, look at rank of best teran player.
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<Zhil> I order the immediate return of my property
<Zhil> No 1up member should steal from another
<[MO]Forest> no 1up should attcak a 1up gal without permission form hc
<Zhil> I am HC
<Zhil> I gave myself permission
<[MO]Forest> i meant a proper hc, not a hc who would suicide into his MO's fleet
Played r4-9.5 r12-14 Now retired.
Proud to have been Cosmic Frostbite (r12 - 22:5 - #1 gal)
Forever [4D] - LCH, ND, Absolute, TFD, DLR
Might and greed will never outweigh honor and loyalty!
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22 Jan 2005, 20:17
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Re: stat changes for the speedgame
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Originally Posted by Kal
remember speedgames are different from a main round - for example cath is allways signficantly improved for speed games as otherwise they get destroyed far to easily, speed game stats are not allways about perfect balence
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Actually makes perfect sense.
Downgrading the terran harpy though, that's just painful. Aside from the huge 'harpy hole', meaning people could generally get through on you easily with an eta7 fleet, I felt the terrans were actually quite a decent race this round. If anything, surely the harpy needed a little bonus, with there being less chance of def in a speedgame?
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24 Jan 2005, 18:55
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Re: stat changes for the speedgame
it was wierd.. i was xan but i could attack pretty much every race even some xans (who had poor fleet composition)
heres hoping cath arent downgraded for when ziks get stealing
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