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Unread 31 Mar 2003, 12:39   #1
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If there are hackers working against al-jazeera
why aren't there any working FOR them?

I mean, there's a lot the community is supposed to do for them - freedom of speech and freedom of information has always been the top priority...
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Unread 31 Mar 2003, 17:21   #2
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I was pondering about this question myself. And Al Jazeera isn't the only site that is under attack.
Thinking of some "official" hacker sites I always thought them to be anarchistic and antigovernmental.
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I was pondering about this question myself. And Al Jazeera isn't the only site that is under attack.
Thinking of some "official" hacker sites I always thought them to be anarchistic and antigovernmental.
It's a 'cool' thing. They typically (those with talent at least) go through the teen rebel phase of anti governmentalism/anarchism then realise a few things abot the world and go work for 'the man', possibly by way of their own soon-to-fail security consultancy
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Any idiot can learn how to DoS a site in under 5 minutes, we arent talking about the cream of internet hackers here.
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It's a 'cool' thing. They typically (those with talent at least) go through the teen rebel phase of anti governmentalism/anarchism then realise a few things abot the world and go work for 'the man', possibly by way of their own soon-to-fail security consultancy
How is a security consultant working for 'the man'?
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How is a security consultant working for 'the man'?
All productive legal labour within the confines of a state benefits it implicitly!
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All productive legal labour within the confines of a state benefits it implicitly!
But does that make up for millions of sites like this?
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How is a security consultant working for 'the man'?
The failed security consultancy is an optional step between rebellion and 'working for the man'.
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The failed security consultancy is an optional step between rebellion and 'working for the man'.
They become politicians? Civil servants? I guess you might be talking about young anarchists of the 60s/70s who no longer know the Tao, but I haven't heard anyone talk about "the man" lately and I was never told exactly what it means. Would anyone care to explain?
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Re: If there are hackers working against al-jazeera
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why aren't there any working FOR them?

I mean, there's a lot the community is supposed to do for them - freedom of speech and freedom of information has always been the top priority...
There were som US government sites that was hacked a few days ago by anti war hackers
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