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Unread 24 Aug 2006, 02:22   #51
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Re: So...

I knew elvis was a cheater in RD 12 when he let cypher farm him. Noone listens to me though.
elvis does own though.
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Unread 24 Aug 2006, 03:02   #52
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Because he's a cheating cvnt?

Got no idea of the specifics - nor do I care. Gave me a good laugh though. I assume that at some stage he realised fence-sitting wasn't enough to get #1 and had to cheat as well.

And it seems he was as crap as hiding his cheating as he was his fence-sitting.

he has been hiding it V well in prev rounds, or someone didnt care. (edit: not talking about cheating, as I know nothing about that)
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Unread 24 Aug 2006, 09:16   #53
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so is elviz still closed or not?
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Unread 24 Aug 2006, 10:31   #54
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Because he's a cheating cvnt?

Got no idea of the specifics - nor do I care. Gave me a good laugh though. I assume that at some stage he realised fence-sitting wasn't enough to get #1 and had to cheat as well.

And it seems he was as crap as hiding his cheating as he was his fence-sitting.
I'm sure you must have realised this in earlier rounds aswell?
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Unread 24 Aug 2006, 10:53   #55
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please lets not turn this into what i think it might be turning into. Its to far neat the end of the round for people to be bothered stoom
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Unread 24 Aug 2006, 16:01   #56
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i have reported the guy round after round etc numerous times but it seems he's one of those "special" guys who used to get away with murder in pa.
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Are the MH'ers going to reopen him now are they just gonna let him stay in 'vac mode' gaining resources till the end of the round and reopen his account the last day?
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please lets not turn this into what i think it might be turning into. Its to far neat the end of the round for people to be bothered stoom
please? I'd really like to scream OMG 1UP HYPOCRITES!!11 just for this once
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Re: So...

Stoom, I don't know who in hell that aestuos dude is, but I do know that he has sweet **** all to do with 1up. Any "hypocrisy" is his alone.

Or perhaps in this case the bias is yours?
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Stoom, I don't know who in hell that aestuos dude is, but I do know that he has sweet **** all to do with 1up. Any "hypocrisy" is his alone.

Or perhaps in this case the bias is yours?
I'm not talking about him, I'm talking about Sid calling elviz a cheater. Where I said that I'm sure he must have realized this in earlier rounds aswell...
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Unread 26 Aug 2006, 10:15   #61
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Re: So...

lol, you guys are sad...

you realise elviz is laughing his arse off that you guys hate him and talk about him so much and yet his still kicks all your arses everytime he tries?

i don't think elviz is the only person that cheats, its in my opinion that most of the top 10 cheats one way or another though that comment has no evidence to back it up and therefore should remain as an opinion and NOT an accusation.

I don't like cheaters they make the game sh*t for those who don't cheat, but slagging him off in a thread is a bit elitist, as most of the posters here would have cheated/seen cheating and not reported it in your career of pa.
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Unread 26 Aug 2006, 10:26   #62
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lol, you guys are sad...

you realise elviz is laughing his arse off that you guys hate him and talk about him so much and yet his still kicks all your arses everytime he tries?

i don't think elviz is the only person that cheats, its in my opinion that most of the top 10 cheats one way or another though that comment has no evidence to back it up and therefore should remain as an opinion and NOT an accusation.

I don't like cheaters they make the game sh*t for those who don't cheat, but slagging him off in a thread is a bit elitist, as most of the posters here would have cheated/seen cheating and not reported it in your career of pa.

Wow, and there I was; thinking I made bad posts....
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Unread 26 Aug 2006, 12:42   #63
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I don't like cheaters they make the game sh*t for those who don't cheat, but slagging him off in a thread is a bit elitist, as most of the posters here would have cheated/seen cheating and not reported it in your career of pa.
There are people who cheated in the very early days of pa, but that has changed, radically.

The fact is some people in this thread knew he was up to no good quite a while ago and finally he's been caught and are pleased he has been.

I'm sure elviz is laughing - those from 1up sniping at him only have themselves to blame for putting up with him simply because he gave them a lot of score.
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Unread 26 Aug 2006, 13:06   #64
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There are people who cheated in the very early days of pa, but that has changed, radically.

The fact is some people in this thread knew he was up to no good quite a while ago and finally he's been caught and are pleased he has been.

I'm sure elviz is laughing - those from 1up sniping at him only have themselves to blame for putting up with him simply because he gave them a lot of score.
True words..

I didn't play in the early days of pa so i don't know how much people cheated back then, but i do know that many people still do these days and making HIM specificially the butt of this thread is not fair. If he cheated, close him permanent and maybe even ban him from playing future rounds (don't know how that can happen) but don't have a go at him in the forums.
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Unread 26 Aug 2006, 13:11   #65
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True words..

I didn't play in the early days of pa so i don't know how much people cheated back then, but i do know that many people still do these days and making HIM specificially the butt of this thread is not fair. If he cheated, close him permanent and maybe even ban him from playing future rounds (don't know how that can happen) but don't have a go at him in the forums.
thing bout elviz is he was in the running for no 1 planet again so he will get abused on the forums because he was so high profile ,

while he may well be laughing his arse off about this getting caught this time seriously tarnishes anything he accomplished in pa so was he clean in the other rd's he won

its all well and good saying he would own everyone but it means nothing if he has to cheat to do it
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Unread 26 Aug 2006, 13:16   #66
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TBH his accomplishment was tarnished way before he was caught this time. What Elviz does is sadly a reflection of society, in society if you care for yourself and fence sit, cheat, lie, backstab your way, you'll most likely end up the top.
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TBH his accomplishment was tarnished way before he was caught this time. What Elviz does is sadly a reflection of society, in society if you care for yourself and fence sit, cheat, lie, backstab your way, you'll most likely end up the top.
Don't blame society, blame elviz. No-one forced him to cheat.
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I heard it was because he touched himself at night once but this is really just an unconfirmed rumour with nothing substantial backing it up so I guess it might be because he touched someone else at night once. Maybe we'll just never find out!
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i don't think elviz is the only person that cheats, its in my opinion that most of the top 10 cheats one way or another though that comment has no evidence to back it up and therefore should remain as an opinion and NOT an accusation.
So you base your opinion on absolutely nothing but jaelousy ?

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So you base your opinion on absolutely nothing but jaelousy ?

I would hate to have anyone like you as a friend.
lol, just because you have no evidence that can get them caught, doesn't mean you don't know they're cheating. But i don't wanna tarnish they're achievements by saying they do cheat because they haven't been caught which is why i said it is an opinion, and no i don't base my opinion on jealousy, i base my opinion on what i have seen and what i believe. If you can sit there and truthfully say you have never cheated or witness cheating and not reported it (because that is also classfied as cheating), then you are in my opinion in the minority.
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Don't blame society, blame elviz. No-one forced him to cheat.
This is true, though i didn't say blame society, or i wasn't trying to say that. I was just saying his actions are a reflection of society. Ofcourse his the one to blame if he gets closed for cheating, these actions come with consequences and if he is proven then i hope he gets punished and the MH team doesn't just let him off lightly.
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This is true, though i didn't say blame society, or i wasn't trying to say that. I was just saying his actions are a reflection of society.
But without people like elviz cheating in the first place, there wouldn't be this reflection of society. Every player makes their own decision to cheat - and following the maxim "If you can't beat them, join them" can never be acceptable.
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my god elviz isn't a ****ing insane cheatmachine like you people are all assuming, half the ziks in the universe and since r13 (or r6 for that matter) are just as guilty as him. noone remember keizari's magical finish in r13?
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when is elvis getting deleted.
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He got closed on Sunday 20th August according to both Sandmans and the date of this thread. The ticker automatically deletes planets 10 days after their closure, meaning that his planet will be deleted on Wednesday 30th.
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He got closed on Sunday 20th August according to both Sandmans and the date of this thread. The ticker automatically deletes planets 10 days after their closure, meaning that his planet will be deleted on Wednesday 30th.
Actually he got closed the night between friday 18th and saturday 19th.
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Change zik, stop the abuse -_-

ontopic, I always respected elviz as a player (even tho his playstyle differs alot from how I like to play) because he is plain good and active. If he gets deleted or not that doesnt change, thats my personal oppinion however.

When this thread started it was alot of the good old Guilty untill proven Innocent btw pretty typical :P
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Change zik, stop the abuse -_-

ontopic, I always respected elviz as a player (even tho his playstyle differs alot from how I like to play) because he is plain good and active. If he gets deleted or not that doesnt change, thats my personal oppinion however.

When this thread started it was alot of the good old Guilty untill proven Innocent btw pretty typical :P
Also, typically, he was in fact guilty. Sooooo.....
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I'm sure elviz is laughing - those from 1up sniping at him only have themselves to blame for putting up with him simply because he gave them a lot of score.
This is very unfair to elviz and simply not true. He (along with Storebo, Sandvold et al.) ran 1up's best Attack Group for several rounds and put considerable time into doing so.

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I don't doubt his activity and that he probably put time into 1up.

But there were things he did not too long before he joined 1up, that 1up command certainly knew about, yet people seem to have conveniently forgotten about (chika has a good memory though). I wasn't sniping at elviz (there is no need for me to do that, he can do that by himself), simply sniping at any 1up who think they have a shred of credibility of sniping at him, when they infact have none, regardless of whether they have a 'point' or not.
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The bad things he has done do not wash away the good.
maybe but i believe that they do tarnish them if he is found guilty and deleted
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I like elviz I love the way everyone shrieks in mock outrage when someone is caught cheating and that someone has knowingly harboured them, as if they aren't all up to something equally grubby themselves.
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.....annnnd gone it would seem, so clearly was guilty of some sort of cheting type of thing, would love to hear more info of exactly what was done cept from the obvious theories of zik shipfarming which it may well have/most likely was.
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So if elviz gets slammed for farming, will is earlier wins be taken away from him?
Hm, they did it to athletics’ when they cough them for using steroids……

Btw, I see that ship jumpers still gets punished, poor Antigone :]
Since you can never prove that a person did cheat in the rounds prior to his capture, you have basicly no grounds whatsoever to assume he did and therefor take away his earlier wins/achievements.
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Since you can never prove that a person did cheat in the rounds prior to his capture, you have basicly no grounds whatsoever to assume he did and therefor take away his earlier wins/achievements.
In all fairness, no you cannot (except if their is a clear evidence). But by hearing and knowing this and looking to the facts, the respect he got along (and worked hard for) in his PA career (soo many rounds) faded just in a second. Everyone deserves a second chance, i admit..but like in RL when people have been caught cheating, you usually dont trust them anymore.

I feel its just sad to throw away your name and respect you worked hard for soo many rounds, this way...its an online game, but still...
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...its an online game, but still...
And there you said it, it's an online game ...

You cannot draw any conclusions or comparisons whatsoever with real life. Just because one cheat at a game (don't we all?) doesn't mean he would lie or cheat at real life issues ...

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