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21 Dec 2005, 03:29
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Oh Google, how could you betray me
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21 Dec 2005, 05:05
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1up on you
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
selling out ;/
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21 Dec 2005, 06:55
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
I never see ads anyways with Norton Internet Security & Adblock Plus. Internet ads are for internet challenged IE users who only know how to connect to the web by clicking a round and blue shortcut on their icon laden desktop.
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21 Dec 2005, 09:24
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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I never see ads anyways with Norton Internet Security
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ahaha
ahahahaha
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
(you can work out the rest of this post, right?)
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21 Dec 2005, 09:27
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Jolt's best friend
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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Originally Posted by s|k
Norton Internet Security ... internet challenged IE users
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think nb3 hit the nail on the head with this one...
personally, i dump adds at the firewall, rather than having to sort it on every individual pc.
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21 Dec 2005, 09:35
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
Apart from pop-ups (which are obviously blocked by my browser) I have no real problem with most internet ads. The crapper ones are usually found on the more worthless sites, and I have no real problem with a site like the PA Forums (which I pay nothing towards) displaying a relatively unobtrusive banner ad I'm practically blind to now.
Compared to TV where you have to sit for 3-4 minutes of solid ads before your programming restarts, I'd say we have it lucky (for now).
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21 Dec 2005, 13:12
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
I was shocked when some flash games started having adverts before them i must say
But im not sure why
Anyway, google arent selling out, they are buying in - they are the ones who bought the stake in AOL. And according to the beeb, them doing so stops Microsoft from doing the same thing, so perhaps this is the lesser of two evils.
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21 Dec 2005, 16:38
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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Originally Posted by NEWSBOT3
ahaha
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First NB3, quality posting if I don't say so myself. Now for riposte, wait, I can't, you make no sense.
http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoff.../features.html
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All I said was that I don't see advertisements because I have software installed Norton Internet Security which has a powerful ad blocking feature. I don't understand what you think is funny, in fact, I'm just going to assume that you're a moron and leave it at that.
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21 Dec 2005, 16:40
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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, in fact, I'm just going to assume that you're a moron and leave it at that.
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if you were going to do that you could have typed a lot less and saved your keyboard the wear and tear.
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21 Dec 2005, 16:41
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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Originally Posted by mist
think nb3 hit the nail on the head with this one...
personally, i dump adds at the firewall, rather than having to sort it on every individual pc.
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No mist, he hit no nail, and neither did you.
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21 Dec 2005, 16:42
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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if you were going to do that you could have typed a lot less and saved your keyboard the wear and tear.
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Can someone block/ban this guy for flaming and trolling? He's said nothing constructive in this thread. Where are the mods?
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21 Dec 2005, 16:53
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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Can someone block/ban this guy for flaming and trolling? He's said nothing constructive in this thread. Where are the mods?
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I'm laughing so much it's impossible to describe here.
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21 Dec 2005, 16:56
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Born Sinful
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
Kids, behave yourselves in my thread.
Ta.
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21 Dec 2005, 17:33
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
people should take an internet test before being allowed online
"what browser will you use"
a) IE
b) Firefox
c) Opera
d) Safari
e) Lynx
f) Wget and nano
if a - fail.
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21 Dec 2005, 22:02
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Choice of Whacker sir?
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
hey Phil^ Ive been using IE for the last two years solid with no problems, then again I'm not allowed to look at porn in work
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21 Dec 2005, 23:07
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
I wasn't suggesting that using IE meant people were internet challenged. Far from it, many windows developers and C#.NET programers like Ragin-Retard, are far more capable internet fiens than myself. It's just that the vast majority of internet challenged people use either IE or the AOL/MSN/Yahoo Browser (which really are just IE skins).
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22 Dec 2005, 03:21
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
I heard its whats on the websites and not what hitting up down left right a b c to give you infinite lives vs dr robotnic on the last level does. IE works fine, not all of us are trying to sharpen our e penises.
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22 Dec 2005, 03:23
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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I heard its whats on the websites and not what hitting up down left right a b c to give you infinite lives vs dr robotnic on the last level does. IE works fine, not all of us are trying to sharpen our e penises.
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I can't understand how people can exist without tabs.
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
alt-tab does me fine. also without having some faggy shit all over the side of my screen i have more room for actual screen content.
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22 Dec 2005, 04:52
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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alt-tab does me fine. also without having some faggy shit all over the side of my screen i have more room for actual screen content.
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22 Dec 2005, 09:10
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mmm.. pills
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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This thread must be an asshole magnet.
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That would include you right?
obviously differet solutions suite different people. personally one of the many reasons I use IE is because I hate tabs, I find them too limiting, but hey at least I respect the fact that to many people they do find them useful, just not me.
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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That would include you right?
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Many statements I make poke fun at myself, though it seems few notice it. I routinely make open-ended statements that are open to various interpretations with no indication of what I actually meant.
It's quite my little impish inside joke watching you people fumble all over the little things I say. It's not intentional, it's just the way I am. I sometimes make heartfelt and honest comments that I don't even understand the direction of, but still I post them just to see what you all make of it.
I'm going to give you the credit you didn't give me and assume that you're aware of the irony in your explicit exposition of my multifaceted (secret, shhhh) comment.
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22 Dec 2005, 09:37
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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alt-tab does me fine.
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As djbass says, it's a matter of taste. Personally I'm totally addicted to multi-tasking. I must press "alt-tab" on average a thousand times a day and have done for many years. Having my browser tasks included within the application list that you cycle through would devalue alt-tab since I'd be cycling through a whole other bunch stuff too. I usually have at least ten to twenty browser tabs open at a time, so this isn't a trivial concern.
Plus being able to switch between tabs with the right-mouse button and scroller in Opera is the win as far as I'm concerned.
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Other browsers don't put "faggy shit all over the side" of your screen. Unless you request it of course.
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
i think NB was laughing because most people would rather let diseased rats loose in their own anuses than put norton internet security on their systems, it causes more trouble than it solves.
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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i think NB was laughing
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No, NB was laughing because he's a moron. He seems to have put on airs, and will no longer condescend to a level of overt hostility. A pretty silly attitude considering his posts in this thread. I don't want to believe in varying levels of intelligence, but he's making that difficult for me right now.
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because most people would rather let diseased rats loose in their own anuses than put norton internet security on their systems, it causes more trouble than it solves.
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'Most people' isn't accurate. Norton offers one of the best selling security software suites on the market. That is unless you believe that there are a lot of people walking about with sick little mammals in their assholes. I'll make the point that I never said best selling is evidence for high quality, that I'm only pointing out how your specific statement is factually incorrect, but I bet people here, logically challenged, will still find those words in my mouth a priori. However I will completely throw a wrench in their already struggling facilities by making the assertion that Norton is quality, just not because of any reasons I've not mentioned.
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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As djbass says, it's a matter of taste.
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Well if djbass says so, then it must be true.
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22 Dec 2005, 12:30
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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Well if djbass says so, then it must be true.
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I usually have the opposite opinion to djbass on most issues (this is a man who likes Yahoo over Google, IE over Opera, Buffy the Movie over the TV series, thinks Shai is a good poster, etc) but I think it's pretty evident that people are going to want different things from their browser. The only real "objective" argument you can make is that IE is going to adopt tabs anyway (which means at the very least it is way behind Opera/Firefox in terms of development).
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22 Dec 2005, 12:39
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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Originally Posted by Dante Hicks
I usually have the opposite opinion to djbass on most issues (this is a man who likes Yahoo over Google, IE over Opera, Buffy the Movie over the TV series, thinks Shai is a good poster, etc) but I think it's pretty evident that people are going to want different things from their browser. The only real "objective" argument you can make is that IE is going to adopt tabs anyway (which means at the very least it is way behind Opera/Firefox in terms of development).
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Tabs are an option with Firefox. You don't have to use them, and if you don't then it will seem as they don't exist. In the context of tabs that makes Firefox either equal to IE if you dislike tabs, or superior if you ever encounter a moment in which you find them handy.
Also IE will never catch up with Firefox. The thing with Firefox is, that if you know xml, an easy thing to learn, you can make Firefox whatever you want it to be. You can do anything to it including adding email client features to it or just changing the way it looks, all with simple xml, css & JavaScript. Hell if you know how to make a webpage its not hard at all to make Firefox whatever you want it to be. With IE you can't do any of that and you never will be able to.
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22 Dec 2005, 13:10
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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Tabs are an option with Firefox. You don't have to use them, and if you don't then it will seem as they don't exist.
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Again, I agree but you'll always get some spastic who says "I prefer these things without options, it's simpler!". To me it's a no-brainer, more options*=>more freedom=>can only be a good thing.
* = Obviously I am not talking about bloat.
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
some would argue that the freedom to do something you don't want to do isn't that important.
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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some would argue that the freedom to do something you don't want to do isn't that important.
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Unless we're talking extreme isolated examples of freedoms*, I'd imagine only very foolish or naive people would argue such a thing.
* = Which admittedly, we are.
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22 Dec 2005, 13:42
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
You know, back on topic. Reading that article and the Google press release a second time now and it doesn't seem as if Google pages will change, but the ads it delivers to sites through it's network. It never specifically mentions the Google home page, so I think we're fine.
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
let's just solve the norton 'internet security' suite problem by stating it's a multi-part oxymoron.
1) Internet security - Obviously an oxymoron, there's no such thing as security on the internet, you can try ofcourse, but your system will never be secure, at least not as long as you use anything made by MS.
2) Norton internet - So far I've had only problems mixing any kind of Norton application with internet capable computers, so I'll prefer stuff like Avast! and ZoneAlarm (admittedly, ZA isn't bugfree either, but at least it's free)
3) Norton security - Biggest oxymoron so far, 'nuff said.
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
you know, i got a phone call the other day from my mother in law, saying that msn had stopped working. 'Hmm' I say to myself 'I wonder what she has done to her computer this time'
turns out she had installed norton internet security, which, may i add, had msn as a trusted programme allowed access to the internet, however still the only way i could get msn messenger to work was to disable the norton firewall. So, the windows firewall (no brainer this one i suppose) allows msn messenger to work, the router has no problems with it, various other security/anti-virus programmes have no problems with it, yet if norton's firewall is on messenger simply doesn't work. I wish i could say its some foible of the PC that it acts like this, but it isn't, i have come across the same problem on 3 different PC's, so again, i will refute your assertions about norton and repeat myself: norton is a big steaming pile of shit, rotten monkey shit at that.
PS: dante, buffy the movie is soooooooooo much better than the TV show shame on you i say!
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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norton is a big steaming pile of shit, rotten monkey shit at that.
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And yet somehow it's still better than McAfee Internet Security.
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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obviously differet solutions suite different people.
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Different solutions do suit different people, but using IE as a solution to your internet browing problem is like using walking as a solution of the problem of getting from France to China, or using sperm as a solution to your protein needs. It might technically work for some very loose definition of what constitutes 'working', but its pretty stupid and there are superior alternatives. You can do arithmetic using an abacus rather than a calculator, but theres not much point.
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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You can do arithmetic using an abacus rather than a calculator, but theres not much point.
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Unless you've run out of batteries and the shops have closed already.
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
IE is crap why wont people admit it ?
IE7 might be great, but firefox pisses all over IE for features.
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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Remind me to kill you sometime.
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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you know, i got a phone call the other day from my mother in law, saying that msn had stopped working. 'Hmm' I say to myself 'I wonder what she has done to her computer this time'
turns out she had installed norton internet security, which, may i add, had msn as a trusted programme allowed access to the internet, however still the only way i could get msn messenger to work was to disable the norton firewall. So, the windows firewall (no brainer this one i suppose) allows msn messenger to work, the router has no problems with it, various other security/anti-virus programmes have no problems with it, yet if norton's firewall is on messenger simply doesn't work. I wish i could say its some foible of the PC that it acts like this, but it isn't, i have come across the same problem on 3 different PC's, so again, i will refute your assertions about norton and repeat myself: norton is a big steaming pile of shit, rotten monkey shit at that.
PS: dante, buffy the movie is soooooooooo much better than the TV show shame on you i say!
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Yes that all happens to me to, I don't deny it, but I've always been able to fix the problem. I have msn and norton and they work fine. Also the well known secret about Norton is that if you wipe your harddrive and reinstall the software you get a free year long subscription to updates and you can't beat that with a stick.
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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Yes that all happens to me to, I don't deny it, but I've always been able to fix the problem. I have msn and norton and they work fine. Also the well known secret about Norton is that if you wipe your harddrive and reinstall the software you get a free year long subscription to updates and you can't beat that with a stick.
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How about a life of free updates for both Avast! and ZA, without having to wipe your HD, ever.
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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Yes that all happens to me to, I don't deny it, but I've always been able to fix the problem.
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Personally, I prefer software which doesn't cause problems that need to be fixed. Maybe I just don't like the challenge of dealing with ineptly designed crap. It's the easy life for me!
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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How about a life of free updates for both Avast! and ZA, without having to wipe your HD, ever.
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Does avast block ads?
Is avast also a firewall?
Does avast allow you to create complex rules for emails and download scanning?
Can you schedule updates, scans, and configure them considerably?
Does it remember the information you put in forms?
Does it remember your credit card information for forms?
Does it lock your form information to a profile that you have to log in to?
Is it as powerful of a pop blocker (Norton blocks all pop ups - it disables javascript :open() completely and any script derivative.
Does it let you create rules for sites on the fly?
Does it have powerful email spam filtering?
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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Does avast block ads?
Is avast also a firewall?
Does avast allow you to create complex rules for emails and download scanning?
Can you schedule updates, scans, and configure them considerably?
Does it remember the information you put in forms?
Does it remember your credit card information for forms?
Does it lock your form information to a profile that you have to log in to?
Is it as powerful of a pop blocker (Norton blocks all pop ups - it disables javascript pen() completely and any script derivative.
Does it let you create rules for sites on the fly?
Does it have powerful email spam filtering?
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Avast does not block ads, but there's more freeware around that does that properly.
Avast does allow fairly complex rules for e-mail and download scanning, although I never use them because I don't use a POP e-mail client and only download from places I trust.
You can schedule updates, scans and configure them quite reasonably, although I don't see the point of most of the configuration options. It automatically attempts to update whenever the screensaver because active or the computer is idle for more then 5 minutes.
It does not remember the information you put in forms, again there are other programs that do and I don't WANT anything to remember that in the first place.
It does not remember my credit card information, which is good thing because I don't want ANYTHING but ME to remember that information.
It does not store form information, thus it doesn't have anything to lock.
I don't need a pop-up blocker, I have FireFox which already gets almost all the pop-ups. If ALL pop-ups where disabled, half the websites would no longer work properly.
It does let you create rules for websites, although doing so requires opening the configuration screen. It doesn't give irrirating pop-ups and when it does occassionally block something, it notifies you of this without obtrusive pop-ups.
And last but not least, it doesn't have e-mail spam filtering, I use Gmail which does a much better job.
As for a firewall, READ. I use ZoneAlarm, which does everything it needs to, nothing less, nothing more.
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22 Dec 2005, 20:13
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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ah yes, that helpful tool that could never ever backfire.
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22 Dec 2005, 20:15
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
1) By using a decent browser (not IE) with AdBlocking extensions (Firefox), you don't need an anti-virus program to block ads.
2) Use a specialist firewall that is actually competent at the job.
3) I don't use POP3 e-mail so no need for those rules.
4) Yes.
5) Get your browser to do that for you.
6) See 5.
7) NFI - I don't use auto-forms. Possibly not - but don't be so bloody lazy.
8) See 1.
9) Extensions, thank you very much. No idea for Opera.
10) WHY ARE YOU USING AN ANTI-VIRUS PROGRAM TO FILTER SPAM!!!!!
Dear god. In summary: use Firefox/Opera as a browser, a decent AV program (avast!/AVG are free) and a specialist firewall if the Windows Firewall isn't good enough (ZoneAlarm). I just saved you $70.
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22 Dec 2005, 20:18
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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ah yes, that helpful tool that could never ever backfire.
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It just makes it really really easy to buy things.
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22 Dec 2005, 20:21
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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Originally Posted by furball
1) By using a decent browser (not IE) with AdBlocking extensions (Firefox), you don't need an anti-virus program to block ads.
2) Use a specialist firewall that is actually competent at the job.
3) I don't use POP3 e-mail so no need for those rules.
4) Yes.
5) Get your browser to do that for you.
6) See 5.
7) NFI - I don't use auto-forms. Possibly not - but don't be so bloody lazy.
8) See 1.
9) Extensions, thank you very much. No idea for Opera.
10) WHY ARE YOU USING AN ANTI-VIRUS PROGRAM TO FILTER SPAM!!!!!
Dear god. In summary: use Firefox/Opera as a browser, a decent AV program (avast!/AVG are free) and a specialist firewall if the Windows Firewall isn't good enough (ZoneAlarm). I just saved you $70.
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...because Norton is more powerful than all the other software and it works better and it does all that stuff from one location and with one update. I can't believe that you're trying to argue that having tons of things installed is better than having one piece of software that does all those things and does it better.
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22 Dec 2005, 20:22
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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It just makes it really really easy to buy things.
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Ah, the old argument between "having to reinstall windows due to the program ****ing up your system" and "having to look at a card to read off a number".
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Re: Oh Google, how could you betray me
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...because Norton is more powerful than all the other software and it works better and it does all that stuff from one location and with one update. I can't believe that you're trying to argue that having tons of things installed is better than having one piece of software that does all those things and does it better.
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norton does it worse though. having loads of stuff installed is good because freeware is cheap to update and if something crashes only one thing is taken out of commission.
plus, some of the things on your list were disencentives to buying the product for sane people.
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