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Unread 7 Apr 2006, 22:55   #1
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He is as funny as muslim
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Thanks. Sorry if I offend anyone by throwing in scripture. I feel moved to share the word.

In truth I used to feel the same way about Christians, Jesus Freaks, Fishers of Men, ect. Then God just sort of slapped me hard a few times until I finally got it.

The Forums are fun at times and we share ideas about PA, the world, our beliefs. Even those not talking about a faith or religeon will reveal what they believe in. If you talk about getting drunk all the time then thats what you live for. I just feel led to discuss faith for some reason. Like there is someone that had to be reached. It may not even be the people that respond to my posts or hit the pos/neg rep radio buttons. It could be someone that is just reading and thinking about God and what purpose they have in life.

Well KoeN thanks for welcoming me to the forums. We had a bit in fun in R15 beta for sure.

Been registered for a year but I don't post very often. I first registered back in 2000 or 2001 during round 2 but I forgot the user name and password and the e-mail address I registered with has long been abandoned. Oh well. I guess it does not matter much then.
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or Guidance (for anyone as old as I)
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In truth I used to feel the same way about Christians, Jesus Freaks, Fishers of Men, ect. Then God just sort of slapped me hard a few times until I finally got it.
tell me what this god looked like and I'll have words.
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He looks like Eric Clapton
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you seem nice to me, i like you.
however, be prepared to have arguments put to you if you wish to dicuss your faith. Just stay calm and enjoy the debate, it is nice here
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All the interested already have access to a bible

But if you feel the need to discuss it anyway
then I do encourage you to make alot of threads to discuss it in
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Hey I would like to say to whoever neg repped and wrote this:

"It angers me that you think you hav the right to preach to me. Why do you assume that my opinions and beliefs are worth less than yours? This is what angers me. You are a pretentious fool and I find what you say extremely offensive."

I am truly sorry. I live in a country where Freedom of speach is protected by law but since you do not want to read what I have written then that is ok with me. I would like to hear your beliefs and if you feel the need to get angry then maybe that is a part of your faith.

Your beliefs are no less of value simply because they are different. Why did you assume that I would think so little of what you believed in?' I mean If you believe that a blue toad from another galaxy was your version of a "Higher Power" then you are more than welcome to your own faith. No where have I said that anyone else's faith was wrong unless you don't believe in a higher power at all. If that is the case then I am sorry that you don't believe in anything and I hope you enjoyed the one holiday you have at the first of this month.

Not sure how pretentious I am but I am of course a fool. Anyone that follows God will be thought of as a fool.

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No where have I said that anyone else's faith was wrong unless you don't believe in a higher power at all.
Perhaps you should take a step back and look at what you write. Note that you talk about God and 'the LORD' and their teachings, the life of Jesus and the Christian sins as statements of fact and leave no room for personal interpretation or other beliefs. Let me offer you a few examples:

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Your salvation is waiting for you. You do not have to be afraid anymore. God truly loves you and wants to see you home.
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God does not want a bunch of lifeless robots strictly following all his laws without any passion. God forgives, he stopped punishing when Jesus laid down his life for us.
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Jesus loves you so therefore the Father loves you also.
Also, as has already been highlighted by Yahwe, you are sitting there saying straight out that people who do not believe in any form of God are wrong. Surely you can see how saying something like that is likely to raise a few eyebrows?

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The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way: but the folly of fools is deceit.
I fail to see the relevance of the majority of your biblical quotations.
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Why do you believe in Jesus Travler?
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Jesus touched his pee-pee

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Perhaps you should take a step back and look at what you write. Note that you talk about God and 'the LORD' and their teachings, the life of Jesus and the Christian sins as statements of fact and leave no room for personal interpretation or other beliefs.
Surely you would expect someone who believes in something to talk about it like it is fact, for example you wouldn't think it was odd if deepflow said something like 'drugs are the best thing ever', but for some reason you take exception to this, possibly because it is a religious belief rather than a more general one. Care to explain this?
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Surely you would expect someone who believes in something to talk about it like it is fact, for example you wouldn't think it was odd if deepflow said something like 'drugs are the best thing ever', but for some reason you take exception to this, possibly because it is a religious belief rather than a more general one. Care to explain this?
Certainly in your example when deepflow says something like that I'd feel in saying he does so with an awareness of the subjectivity of his belief and a respect for the beliefs of others that is greater than what is evident in say
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No where have I said that anyone else's faith was wrong unless you don't believe in a higher power at all. If that is the case then I am sorry that you don't believe in anything and I hope you enjoyed the one holiday you have at the first of this month.
that pretentious piece of tripe.
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that pretentious piece of tripe.
Did I hit a nerve or something? Or do you believe it? The fact is that people without faith cannot celebrate Ramadan, Christmas, Passover, ect. So what is left for them? You got it, April fools day. Call it pretentious but just try and refute it.

BTW this only includes the relgious types of holiday. Since most of use live in different countries National, State, Regional and Local holidays are not being considered here.
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since when is christmas a religious holiday?
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BTW this only includes the relgious types of holiday. Since most of use live in different countries National, State, Regional and Local holidays are not being considered here.
So your point is that only religious people can celebrate religious holidays? Gee, what an insight.

I celebrate May Day (International Workers Day).
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Did I hit a nerve or something? Or do you believe it? The fact is that people without faith cannot celebrate Ramadan, Christmas, Passover, ect. So what is left for them? You got it, April fools day. Call it pretentious but just try and refute it.
i'll celebrate any day i get off work.

I don't celebrate any "religious" holidays and christmas is secular in my household.
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Did I hit a nerve or something? Or do you believe it? The fact is that people without faith cannot celebrate Ramadan, Christmas, Passover, ect. So what is left for them? You got it, April fools day. Call it pretentious but just try and refute it.

BTW this only includes the relgious types of holiday. Since most of use live in different countries National, State, Regional and Local holidays are not being considered here.
I'll celebrate whatever I feel like celebrating. I don't bother celebrating the religious aspect of Christmas really. I celebrate the family aspect. Moreover my point was not concerning that. I'd be perfectly happy to celebrate april fool's day if it's just another excuse to not go to work and do an excessive amount of drinking. My point was concerning your expression of tolerance being utterly inane considering your attitude towards all atheists and agnostics.





Also I celebrate New Years! Which is a little bit like celebrating April Fool's Day!
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If this does not make the point any clearer. HOW IN THE WORLD CAN YOU CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS WITHOUT CHRIST?!?!?!?

Christ Mass = Christmas = worship = a religeous holiday. So many people want to think that Christmas is not about Christ. When did this start? GET A CLUE!!!!!
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If this does not make the point any clearer. HOW IN THE WORLD CAN YOU CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS WITHOUT CHRIST?!?!?!?

Christ Mass = Christmas = worship = a religeous holiday. So many people want to think that Christmas is not about Christ. When did this start? GET A CLUE!!!!!
When did christmas start? Oh about a few thousand years before christ was born. Why, when did you think it started? I'll start calling it a celebration of the winter solstice again and stop referring to it as christmas if you like the word so much though.
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since when is christmas a religious holiday?
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Christ Mass = Christmas = worship = a religeous holiday. So many people want to think that Christmas is not about Christ. When did this start? GET A CLUE!!!!!
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I for one celebrate the day Jesus died...

you goddamned ****ing jews! still celebrating 2000 years after you narced on him!
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I have no problem with any form of religion.

I personally believe organized religion is pointless for myself.

People who shove their religion down your throat should be taken out back and shot. All it does is distance yourself from the general public, and turn yourself into the crazy guy yelling on a crate, on the corner.
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Blowjobs, blowjobs.. I shall keep ranting about blowjobs from now on
until everyone on this forum believes he should give me one


How on earth can you guys celebrate christmas without blowjobs?
Blowsjobs existed way before the first cumming of Christ

Don't worry, I shall not ram my religion down your throat to hard
I respect your own religion too ofc, as long as you feel my piece

Religious scriptures you say? Quotes you say? Stories? A holy book?
Who needs all that when you can have it in .wmv files

Let's all meditate on that one, I hope you all feel enlightened now
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People, I now want discuss the meaning of life
Any thoughts? Any suggestions?

Ow ow I've read that one too
Great explanation that one was
Too bad we still don't have a clue

Except me then ofcourse
Because I read this great book, about going really deep
written in the 4th century and stuff.. Yeah..
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It started before christianity...
Never knew that tbh... I was always under the impression that it was indeed religious {night jesus was born etc} Where did you find out otherwise?

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Never knew that tbh... I was always under the impression that it was indeed religious {night jesus was born etc} Where did you find out otherwise?

I think I need to go some reading
Just look up christmas on wikipedia.
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Thank ye (although that really should have clued into me earlier. tsk.)
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it's pretty much common sense squidly.
Do you think anyone actually noted down the exact date that 'Jesus' was born? (in fact is it even mentioned in the bible?)
When one religion takes over another, they absorb a lot of bits and pieces in order to make the change more palatable to the converted.

For winter solstice read christmas, spring solstice read easter etc etc.


I'd advise reading this if you want to learn a bit more about it.
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Just look up christmas on wikipedia.
It's a good enough account but once again we see the limits of wiki.

They seem to know nothing of Sol Invictus who was briefly head of the Imperial pantheon under Emperor Elagabalus. When Aurelian took the purple he re-instated Sol Invictus (who's birthday was the 25th of Decemeber) and enforced the 25th as an imperial celebration. Constantine just swapped sol invictus for joshua bar-joseph.

(also that wiki account confuses some mithraic traditions with zoroaster )
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I thought christmas was when Jesus died to save santa claus and thats why we celebrate it.

Because Santa lived.



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It's a good enough account but once again we see the limits of wiki.

They seem to know nothing of Sol Invictus who was briefly head of the Imperial pantheon under Emperor Elagabalus. When Aurelian took the purple he re-instated Sol Invictus (who's birthday was the 25th of Decemeber) and enforced the 25th as an imperial celebration. Constantine just swapped sol invictus for joshua bar-joseph.

(also that wiki account confuses some mithraic traditions with zoroaster )
you could edit those bits in you know.
that's the point of wikipedia... rather than complaining about it...
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you could edit those bits in you know.
that's the point of wikipedia... rather than complaining about it...
I wasn't complaining.

I could (if i chose to) correct more than wiki.

but not even you would want that.

I know truths which are better forgotten than remembered.
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I think on a job application I put I was Roman Catholic, on another application I became Muslim.

I got a telephone interview for being Muslim.

You do the math!
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