Planetarion Forums - Why are these words censored?

Worf_Q · 21 Apr 2004, 23:36

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Originally Posted by JammyJim

Because :

1. PA Doesnt allow advertising on its forums unless it is paid for.
2. When people advertise it usually involves 20 posts all saying 'come to xxxxxxx game'
3. It can get very tiring editing out the name and link url to every game pa competes with.

Funny seeing from someone advertising in all his posts. the "Thomashosting - 400meg / PHP / Perl and more all for $5.99p/m ".

Did YOU pay for it?

Leshy · 21 Apr 2004, 23:38

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Originally Posted by Worf_Q

Funny seeing from someone advertising in all his posts. the "Thomashosting - 400meg / PHP / Perl and more all for $5.99p/m ".

That rule pretty much only applies to Planetarion competitors.

Dante Hicks · 22 Apr 2004, 08:07

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Originally Posted by Worf_Q

Funny seeing from someone advertising in all his posts. the "Thomashosting - 400meg / PHP / Perl and more all for $5.99p/m ".

I agree it's a bit of a contradiction, but from a practical point of view I don't mind someone having a link to their website (which is basically advertising) in their signature, so long as their posts aren't total spam.

Similarly, if someone posts a thread "Hey, do you know who is a good ISP" and someone posts a link to their own company I see no problem with that (so long as they use 'blatant plug' tags).

Barrow|Pony · 22 Apr 2004, 19:05

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Originally Posted by Blazde

I couldn't care less if I never see the words *******, **, ***, *********, ***, ****-*****, etc, etc... ever again in my life.

Sorry - I found this quote fairly amusing.

On topic - while the advertising threads that might have plagued these very forums in the early rounds of Planetarion were both annoying and unwarranted - the fact is that many comparisons can be drawn between Planetarion and the other 'rivals.' There are differences in many of those games, and some of them have created intriguing twists that might, heaven forbid, find their way into this game.

I would find no harm in discussions saying, well, "X is fun in Plantation - the new tick based slavery game, so maybe we can add it here."

As far as those dastardly advertising threads, maybe the moderators, who are charged with keeping these boards on topic and relevant, could...I dont know...delete them?

JammyJim · 22 Apr 2004, 20:06

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Originally Posted by Worf_Q

Funny seeing from someone advertising in all his posts. the "Thomashosting - 400meg / PHP / Perl and more all for $5.99p/m ".

Did YOU pay for it?

Its not a game. Its not competing with planetarion. And yes i pay for my advertising with the time and energy i put into administering these forums for the past 3 years for no pay and little recognition.

However this doesnt even equate to 'LOOK AT MY GAME OVER HERE AT WWW.HERSANOTHERPATYPECLONE.COM'

its like saying someone with a link to Deus Ex2 website in their signature is advertising the game. YES, technically they are. but its not advertising which we would deem 'bad' to PA or its forums.

Stop being pedantic.

Qdeathstar · 22 Apr 2004, 20:33

plus, i doubt he gets much business from here anyway...

Dave · 23 Apr 2004, 15:24

Yeah, I quit.

Running online games ****ing sucks.

Kill · 23 Apr 2004, 16:31

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Originally Posted by Leshy

I heard a rather different version of events, in which he didn't "make the game", but took off with LH code instead

Considering the rest of the game isn't particularly original (name, graphics, stats, gameplay) and it relies on people who got kicked out of Planetarion because they were abusing their powers and the game (lo Prince, lo Killmark), PIA is imo a cesspool I'm staying well away from.

Its a cleaner game since I started Multi Hunting.

Killmark

Leshy · 23 Apr 2004, 16:37

Yes, and I'm sure a kindergarten will be a much safer place with Michael Jackson running it.

G.K Zhukov · 23 Apr 2004, 17:14

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Originally Posted by Leshy

Yes, and I'm sure a kindergarten will be a much safer place with Michael Jackson running it.

If I would have space in my sig, this would be in it Leshy

dezaster · 25 Apr 2004, 00:08

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Originally Posted by Dave

Yeah, I quit.

Running online games ****ing sucks.

i doubt you care etc, but what you did was really wank.

JonnyBGood · 25 Apr 2004, 00:33

Dave was always fairly

jerome · 25 Apr 2004, 00:36

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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

Now that's just mean

Unfortunately true

Chippeh: Your comments are nothing more than pathetic

People: Imitation is a compliment, heh.

Noodle · 25 Apr 2004, 00:42

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Originally Posted by Blazde

The makers of PA clones are all thiefing scumbags that are too lame to think of their own ideas and should be murdered in horrific ways. I couldn't care less if I never see the words *******, **, ***, *********, ***, ****-*****, etc, etc... ever again in my life.

That said, a blanket ban on all these words does hint of paranoia. You almost run the risk of making them seem attractive because they're forbidden. Legal action to shut them down properly would be my preference.

I have only been with P******a for a few weeks, and I wouldn't like to comment on any legalities etc. of these "clone" games. My thoughts are fair enough if you don't like the way these other games have sprung up, everyone is entitled to their opinion...

However, the very act of introducing a fee for what had for some time been a free game actually created a market for free alternatives of this like. Planetarion lost players, although I have no idea how many, when they commenced charging, and I see it as unlikely that they are "losing business" to these free alternatives, that are most probably being played by people that will either play a free game, or not play at all. Very much similar to Microsoft's argument that GNU/Linux based Operating Systems are directly damaging their business, when much of the userbase are using it as a free alternative to the Microsoft software they simply cannot afford.

Noodle · 25 Apr 2004, 00:58

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Originally Posted by Leshy

If PIA is so innovative and new, why is their new shipstat page found here titled 'Planetarion Round 8 Battle Calculator - Stats'?

PIA really isn't just run by thieves, but by crappy ones too \o/

The PIA battle calculator you refer to is NOT an official PA one, it is open-source and my understanding of its licensing is it can be modified to an extent without changing its name etc, which is fairly typical of many "free" software licenses.

It is my intention now I have stumbled into the role of programmer for PIA, to move a lot of things that use external software to in-house solutions, which is the option I have preferred on all projects I have worked with in the past.

JammyJim · 25 Apr 2004, 02:34

tbh if Planetarion hadnt gone through takeover termoil the 'other game' wouldve been shutdown under copyright infringement ages ago.

all the others did.

Zor · 25 Apr 2004, 05:31

wow things haven't changed people are still thick headed as ever.

how would you like it if you worked very hard on something and then someone goes and makes a copy of it and then posts it in your forums, I've had this problem with my bussiness that I work for, they where promited to close down to do copyright infringments. that is the post JJ is making, you can advertise here on pa I would think. now say your in JJ's shoes, you see someone post a pa clone they delete the post, why? because it defeats the purpose of PA. now someone posts about game that has nothing to do with PA its let go because they won't loose anything by it. its all about keeping your product infront of the consumers face. the prime example is you sitting right here reading this, your here to play planetarion. and be apart of the community that has become from it, hell this is the 11th round of pa.

Tesla · 25 Apr 2004, 11:54

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Originally Posted by Zor

wow things haven't changed people are still thick headed as ever.

how would you like it if you worked very hard on something and then someone goes and makes a copy of it and then posts it in your forums, I've had this problem with my bussiness that I work for, they where promited to close down to do copyright infringments. that is the post JJ is making, you can advertise here on pa I would think. now say your in JJ's shoes, you see someone post a pa clone they delete the post, why? because it defeats the purpose of PA. now someone posts about game that has nothing to do with PA its let go because they won't loose anything by it. its all about keeping your product infront of the consumers face. the prime example is you sitting right here reading this, your here to play planetarion. and be apart of the community that has become from it, hell this is the 11th round of pa.

Thing is "the other game" isnt similar to pax. Its similar to that of old planetarion, which a lot of us old timers loved and missed. I've seen several ppl ask for old planetarion back, whats wrong with giving them a link ? Planetarion put themselves into this situation, by taking a left turn up shietscreek with the creation of the gheyness that u know as pax.

Tesla

Noodle · 25 Apr 2004, 12:28

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Originally Posted by Tesla

Thing is "the other game" isnt similar to pax. Its similar to that of old planetarion, which a lot of us old timers loved and missed. I've seen several ppl ask for old planetarion back, whats wrong with giving them a link ? Planetarion put themselves into this situation, by taking a left turn up shietscreek with the creation of the gheyness that u know as pax.

I totally agree. I was an avid Planetarion player in Rounds 1-4, and then stopped playing as I disliked the changes that many felt had ruined the game. I first encountered PIA as a player 2 rounds ago, and it was described to me as "A bit like Planetarion before it started to suck", and I found it to be exactly that and thoroughly enjoyed it for the very reasons I enjoyed PA before Round 4.

If Planetarion is "losing" players to these other games that are "clones" of how PA used to be, does it not just add to the age-old argument against all the changes in PA that made myself and many other players stop playing it? The old (R1 - R4) Planetarion I knew had its clones at the time, just as it does now, the difference being at the time it had no reason to even begin to worry about these "clones", instead PA outdid them simply by being good. As I said in a previous post, when a good thing ceases to exist, a gap in the market appears, awaiting a replacement.

JC · 25 Apr 2004, 12:31

PA clones were around before PAX, so thats got **** all to do with anything. PA was forced to make radical changes in an attempt to save the game because it couldnt compete with free clones.

If you were being put out of business by someone would you let them advertise at will on your home turf? I think not.

Raging.Retard · 25 Apr 2004, 15:59

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Originally Posted by JammyJim

tbh if Planetarion hadnt gone through takeover termoil the 'other game' wouldve been shutdown under copyright infringement ages ago.

all the others did.

SS was around in the time before the 'takeover termoil'. Even got an email from a well known Spinner saying how their 'lawyer was looking at it'. SS is still there though? I think the sentiment that 'all the others did' is false.

Mushroom · 25 Apr 2004, 19:34

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Originally Posted by Raging.Retard

SS was around in the time before the 'takeover termoil'. Even got an email from a well known Spinner saying how their 'lawyer was looking at it'. SS is still there though? I think the sentiment that 'all the others did' is false.

I probably shouldn't wade into this argument but SS is the only other game similar to PA that i have any respect for, simply because it's obvious you didn't just try to recreate PA with a couple of minor differences.
Sorry Dave, but anything that has a homepage pic of that sort, and pages such as "create_new_account.php" is asking for it imo

(i'll probably forget to look at this thread again so forgive me if i don't reply - just my tuppence)

Dave · 26 Apr 2004, 14:40

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Originally Posted by dezaster

i doubt you care etc, but what you did was really wank.

No, I dont really care.
Here is my opinion as of this moment.

"OH NOES, THE INTERNET PEOPLE HATE ME!!!!!!!111111"

Tesla · 26 Apr 2004, 14:52

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Originally Posted by Dave

No, I dont really care.
Here is my opinion as of this moment.

"OH NOES, THE INTERNET PEOPLE HATE ME!!!!!!!111111"

as much as I agree (cuz I do... why the fck shud u care what ppl on the internet thinks about u?). Im curious what has been going on behind the scenes in ur admin team, guess I'll never know..heh

Tesla

27 Apr 2004, 22:39

Tesla, even the admin team dont know now

I did have a huge ass reply for this thread, but just saved it to .txt instead, cant be assed with people who think PA made the interent, news flash, it didnt.

Leshy · 27 Apr 2004, 23:03

Yes, Faces, that's exactly the line of reasoning PA Team applied.

WE SHALL BAN THE WORDS ********** AND ******** BECAUSE WE INVENTED THE INTERNET!!111122~~

newt · 27 Apr 2004, 23:14

dunno why I'm posting this; saw your name on my screen as the last poster on PD and felt compelled..

Anyhow, to epitomise my exciting evenings these days, I've been discussing with 'someone' about who the best* posters on these forums are

you** came third.

well done

* best in this case generally means the most witty
** you = Leshy

JC · 27 Apr 2004, 23:17

I was ordering them?

You asked me for some names of good posters :eek:.

If you had said put them in order Leshy would have been top dude

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Dante Hicks · 27 Apr 2004, 23:19

Make a thread on that topic Newt, it'll encourage all sorts of petty bitching.

newt · 27 Apr 2004, 23:20

nah, I was though

coming third to marilyn manson and jonnybgood prolly makes your achievement a bit less

I suppose

Sorry, fourth^ JC is the best innit.

newt · 27 Apr 2004, 23:22

I don't make threads

I only flame and de-track / ruin other people's efforts. JC told me that was hte cool thing to do these days

JC · 27 Apr 2004, 23:25

Derailing threads is bad but seeing as i already answered any possible questions on this subject in my first post or 2 it doesnt bother me here

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P.S. You named MM not me.

P.P.S. Tom is keeping me up messing around not having a key to get into the house or summet

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newt · 27 Apr 2004, 23:27

GRRRRRR jsut go to bed!!!

oh, and MM unpopular then?

PPS you should tell him to pester bob instead

you need your beauty sleep man

JC · 27 Apr 2004, 23:31

You saying i is ugly?

Bob is scary and most probably naked.

I didnt say he was unpopular i just said you named him in the people you thought were 'ok' and so when you asked me to name some more 'ok' people i didnt name him because you had already named him. Capiche?