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Unread 12 Dec 2006, 16:08   #1
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English foodstuffs

Today, good citizens of GD, I come to you for aid with regards to the rich English cultural heritage of food!

Basically, an acquaintance of mine who has her own lunchroom/restaurant, is planning to have a Scrooge Christmas styled event at which she is planning to serve some traditional English lunches, but she was somewhat at a loss with regards to what would be a typically English way of serving bread, possibly even with a somewhat last-era Scrooge setting.

I unfortunately wasn't able to be of much help, since I didn't get much further than scones and muffins. I do know that you guys love your toast and I have heard tales concerning marmite which were incidentally unanimously negative, but much further than that I actually have zero knowledge of what you or your great-granduncle liked to do for lunch.

As such, do you know of any good things, or have any tips with regards to places on the Internet I could look for some suggestions regarding this? Help would be most appreciated and welcome
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Just cook some curries, and a few kebab, whilst forcing your customers to drink copious amounts of lager until they start making sexual advances towards to hostess and eventually pass out in a pool of blood and vomit. Oh and there's the Christmas pudding soaked in whisky and set alight. That's quite important actually and to be performed before the fifth pint of cheap lager.
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Pretty much as abov, plus chips. Yoekshire puddings are awsome, thogu maybe a little inappropriate. And anything you can microwave, basically.
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Re: English foodstuffs

Roast beef and yorkshire puddings.

Full English Breakfast.

Fish and Chips.

Chicken Tikka Massala.
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Re: English foodstuffs

'bread'



anyway: Get a freshly baked loaf, put it in a basket, slice it, and serve with a jar of meat paste. There's your bygone-era wheat-based meal, right there!
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This, in combination with your avatar, makes for a hilarious answer. It's also a pretty good suggestion and I will be definitely be suggesting it.
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anyway: Get a freshly baked loaf, put it in a basket, slice it, and serve with a jar of meat paste. There's your bygone-era wheat-based meal, right there!
This also sounds pretty good, although I have little knowledge of what 'meat paste' contains.

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Get a thick vegetable soup as well, maybe some dumplings to go with it.

That's kind of scroogey.


Or you could always go with Gruel.
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a scrooge christmas styled event?!?! so what you go in and are given a glass of muddy water, some gruel and a slap on the face?

Perhaps it would be better to rename the day


As for suggestions it depends on what she wants, bitty snacky food or sit down meals. A full english breakfast/roast/chicken tikka masala/fish&chips are full on meals we're likely to eat but i have a feeling she'd prefer little snacks that people can buy and walk away, slices of pork pies, sausage rolls that kind of stuff.
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I have no idea what it's called, if anything. That was merely used to give an idea of the time and setting.
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but i have a feeling she'd prefer little snacks that people can buy and walk away, slices of pork pies, sausage rolls that kind of stuff.
Generally it's meals that you do come in for and sit down to eat, but not a fully cooked proper dinner. Normally you'd grab a cup of coffee and a sandwich, bread bun or something like that.
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This also sounds pretty good, although I have little knowledge of what 'meat paste' contains.)
I think you can safely assume it contains little/no real meat.
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Deep-fried marsbars!
English not scottish.

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This also sounds pretty good, although I have little knowledge of what 'meat paste' contains.
http://www.britannia-shop.de/media/P...ndHamPaste.JPG

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I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Mrs Beeton - given that seems to be what leshy is after ...

http://www.mrsbeeton.com/40-chapter40.html is a list of her proposed menus but the whole book is there.

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BILL OF FARE FOR A PICNIC FOR 40 PERSONS.
2149. A joint of cold roast beef, a joint of cold boiled beef, 2 ribs of lamb, 2 shoulders of lamb, 4 roast fowls, 2 roast ducks, 1 ham, 1 tongue, 2 veal-and-ham pies, 2 pigeon pies, 6 medium-sized lobsters, 1 piece of collared calf’s head, 18 lettuces, 6 baskets of salad, 6 cucumbers.

2150. Stewed fruit well sweetened, and put into glass bottles well corked; 3 or 4 dozen plain pastry biscuits to eat with the stewed fruit, 2 dozen fruit turnovers, 4 dozen cheesecakes, 2 cold cabinet puddings in moulds, 2 blancmanges in moulds, a few jam puffs, 1 large cold plum-pudding (this must be good), a few baskets of fresh fruit, 3 dozen plain biscuits, a piece of cheese, 6 lbs. of butter (this, of course, includes the butter for tea), 4 quartern loaves of household broad, 3 dozen rolls, 6 loaves of tin bread (for tea), 2 plain plum cakes, 2 pound cakes, 2 sponge cakes, a tin of mixed biscuits, 1/2 lb, of tea. Coffee is not suitable for a picnic, being difficult to make.

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2152. Beverages.—3 dozen quart bottles of ale, packed in hampers; ginger-beer, soda-water, and lemonade, of each 2 dozen bottles; 6 bottles of sherry, 6 bottles of claret, champagne à discrétion, and any other light wine that may be preferred, and 2 bottles of brandy. Water can usually be obtained so it is useless to take it.
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I love how out of touch with reality Yahwe is. It's quite sweet really
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Marrowfat peas. Sorry, if it's Scrooge style event better make that a Marrowfat pea.
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I love how out of touch with reality Yahwe is. It's quite sweet really
I love the fact that our mental health care system is so poor that you are allowed out in the community.

Leshy wants a "scrooge christmas" would you care to tell me when Dickens wrote a christmas carol?

For traditional 'olde english' fare you can hardly beat mrs beeton. YOU WOULD HAVE DONE BETTER IF YOU HAD TRIED TO THINK BEFORE YOU POSTED.

Though quite why you decided such a banal and irrelevant comment was an acceptable thing to post on GD is UTTERLY beyond me.
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Scrooge based english meals, hmm.

#4234 The English Matchday Burger

The Matchday Burger is one of England's culinary delights.

You will need:

2 low quality buns (value tesco is a solid choice, although I prefer wholesale for authenticity)
3 or 4 rats. If you can't find rats or other woodland creatures (ferrets etc), dogs or cats will have to do.
1 slice processed cheese
an onion
oil
a truckload of salt
a spade
a caravan to cook it in
2 hot plates
fridge optional
a sign saying ' CHEESEBURGER £3.00'
napkins (toilet paper quality)

First off, kill the rat/substitute, skin it and get all the meat off it, and grind it up and make your normal burgery patty. Cook the burger in a puddle of oil on a shitty hot plate, preferably pre treated with a well known food poisoning infection. When your burger looks half cooked, stick a slice of cheese on it - when it melts, this means the burger is obviously done.

Obviously, some people like onions, needless to say cook in a sea of oil and use your spade to get the salt out of the bag and onto your shitty hot plate, and cook until your onions contain 50% onion and 50% oil. They'll look as if the Exxon Valdez left a solid oil slick. Make sure you are as messy as possible in getting grease all over the burger as you put them in. Serve with the shitty napkin as stated above.

You know you've succeeded when the person walking away has the "I know I was hungry but why the **** did I buy that" look on their face.
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English food, dont know if you have them in Holland but mince pies are very xmas food!

You also can't go wrong with a pork bap with apple sauce (bap is like a cob)

Also pies, fruit pies. Some rich berry pies to be precise, or apple pies. Nice, hot and crispy. You can't go wrong. My dad makes a cracking rhubarb and crumble, that is beautiful.

Yorkshire Puddings are great, easy to make and you can do a lot with them. Personally I believe on their own they taste great. But some great things you can do is make large ones and put sausages, onions and gravy in them, very very nice.

We also like our cakes, christmas puddings are favourite (they contain lots of alcohol but taste good)

A little snack and treat is bonfire toffee, now this is something to eat on bonfire night, but its fun to make and nice at xmas, basically its homemade toffee and is ****ing gorgeous, check out the recipe on the net (should be around)

Toffee apples are also nice. Theres loads of things to do, its ashame theres really only been myself and yahwe who have replied properly because Britain is such a great country as far as food goes, we really do great food. Have a look around try out things and enjoy.

I am normally drunk at xmas, so find it difficult to remember what I eat
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Re: English foodstuffs

Ok

Custard Triffle, cant go wrong
Sprouts - Gross but fun watching ppls faces
Mince Pie
Sausages and cheese on a stick
Yorkshire Puddings
Roast Potatoes
Parsnips
Apple Pies

More for students xmas dinners

Cold Beans
Donner (Donner stands for Dog-Otter-Newt-Nightingale-Eel-Rat) Kebab
Plain Tesco Value Bread
There Own Hand, as the £5 they have left goes towards 30 bottles of Vodka (not real vodka its de-icer)


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Cheese on toast
Cheese and Worcestershire Sauce on toast
Beans on Toast
Cheese and Ham on toast
any combination of the above in a toastie (toasted sandwich) (which would be good and portable for what Leshy was asking for, although I don't suggest baked beans unless you have a proper toasted sandwich maker [available from £6.72 from Argos] which can seal the edges closed)
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Sausages and cheese on a stick
Pineapple and Cheese (all mentions of cheese should be interpreted as a medium/mature chedder unless otherwise specified)
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English food, dont know if you have them in Holland but mince pies are very xmas food!
Where ofc the "mince" is not minced animal, but a selection of fruits and stuff. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mince_pie will describe it better than me, although that claims that the Mince Pie is an Irish, rather than British invention.

If your friend goes for this, then brandy butter or brandy cream is essential
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toad in the hole

spotted dick with custard of course

steamed suet pudding

oatcakes (northern speciality)

black pudding

tea cakes

hot cross buns (easter treat)
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Pies. You sincerely cannot beat a good pie.

I'm not talking about the pre-cooked microwave shit you get in pubs, with a bit of pastry thrown on teh top to make it look 'rustic'

I'm talking about proper pies with a crust thick enough to bounce bombs off, with a leaf-shaped bit of pastry on top small children will fight over until blood is spilt.

Pies where the crust isn't just on the top, it's all the way round and underneath.

Pies that have small cuts in the crust on top, from which steam wafts upwards, carrying the scent of the tasty bits inside.

Pies are essential.
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U seem to have *real pie* fetish Dead_Meat..
the pastry u are waxing lyrical about is made with lard .. i remeber my mum doing the leaf thing :-)
Suet crust is good too.
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when I think of english food it tends to be carveries... some rather nice ones around the midlands
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For traditional 'olde english' fare you can hardly beat mrs beeton. YOU WOULD HAVE DONE BETTER IF YOU HAD TRIED TO THINK BEFORE YOU POSTED.
I wasn't trying to be insulting

I just found it funny that you recommended such titbits as 4 roast fowls, 1 tongue, 2 veal-and-ham pies, 2 pigeon pies,1 piece of collared calf’s head and yet had never had a KFC meal in your life.
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I agree with DM. Pies are good
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Deep-fried marsbars!
I am sure micheal owen could have gone for one of them during the last World cup
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