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Unread 25 Mar 2011, 21:34   #1
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Congrats CIN

you have just screwed up ingame alliance tools!!!

Nick and Rulername being the same means that you need an external arbiter to be able to cross check who's who, member list, applicants, mails...

this is a retarded idea and just makes everyone's lives hell trying to cross check planets/defenders.
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ask your DC's when they mouse over a defender, do they want to then have to check the planet name in an external arbiter to find out who it is!!

This is not rune scape, stop trying to align it to it!!
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Re: Congrats CIN

Just use your irc nick as name much easier
Also make all allies of people known to everyone
Saves allot of time
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Use your irc nick as a ruler name?
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Re: Congrats CIN

Stop using the ingame tools and use the tools your techs (yours in particular gav!) spent ages coding?
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Re: Congrats CIN

it retarded, ffs
Yes, a number of alliances use their own tools (like CT), but a lot (also) use ingame tools.

So, people have been whining for ingame tools for ages, and PA Team hates external tools for ages, and to make sure you code something that contradicts those things, they code in stupid things.

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Re: Congrats CIN

Yeah, PA Team's ultimate goal is actively undermining alliances' tools.
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Re: Congrats CIN

It is, really.
They never liked non-pa-tools. I have been told so repeatedly by more then one PA Team member in th epast. Thats why they invented ingame tools (defense page, intel, etc). To make non-pa-tools less needed, and of course to give smaller guys without techies the possibility of using some form of tools.

Now those tools werent always perfetc, but i know that several alliances use the defense page for defense. And with these changes, you have two options:

1) you ask/order your members to use nickname as rulername

In this case, you give away intel, which leads to esp. smaller alliances being picked on first for easy roids very early. Also intel is a big part of this game, and it would be mostly lost as dimension to this game.

Also, Funny R/P combo's were a part of the game, and thats now killed too.

2) you ask/order your members to use r/p names like old, not using nicks.

In this case, you render the ingame tools useless, because you have no clue who is who.


And then you have the situation where some use nicks, and some don't, or where ppl start impersonating others, making room for many many complaints and mistakes and ****ups.

So, no matter what you either kill a game aspect, or you kill the ingame tools. Way to go !


Funny thing is, I heard form several people that Jagex/PA Team have an underlying motivation for these changes, but won;t tell us what. What the .....? Either tell us, so we can comment, or don't do it. Don't go hope the storm will go away while you ignore complaints about it, hoping we will be tempted by the we-will-tell-you-the-good-news-later message.
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Re: Congrats CIN

why have a shuffle, anyone who has set their real nick now and changes it before tick start is already mapped. if ruler/planet is linked to login then next round we dont even need to do intel as we know already!!
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Re: Congrats CIN

I just don't understand the change?

It has not added anything to the game and has in fact made the game harder to enjoy due to having to look things up!

Why? Why was this done?

P.s. some of us can't get away with using IRC nicks in our ruler names!
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Re: Congrats CIN

Another great idea from PA Team, whats the logic behind this decision?
Totally agree with gm for once.
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another thing, we have had 40 rounds of loggin in via username and passy, so y the bloody hell have you changed it now after all this time to an email address, do u not realise how painfull and shite this makes it, to login from a mobile fone, especially when u have a really long bloody email address! grrrrrrr
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Re: Congrats CIN

i love how when some coding is finally done on this game it only seems to aim to make the game more shit, and takes away a big part of community play from this game, which (let's be totally freaking honest for a change) is pretty much the only reason a big chunk of us still play.

I am deeply curious as to how and when PATeam/Jagex came up with this idea. i mean there are _TONNES_ of good idea's on the suggestions forum... yet the bit of coding that gets done has completely nothing to do with the community's wishes. Were alliance reps even asked their views on these changes?
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This is retarded! Seriously why?
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All hail the nail in the PA coffin!

Ever wanted to make running an alliance harder and struggle to keep DC's and members interested.

This can be done with one simple method and they did it. Shame.
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Apparently Jagex wants it this way.

Seriously, why on earth was PA bought by the nth company that totally messes it up? Like all those predecessors, they promised heaven, but we got hell again.

Since they bought it and held a perfect speech on the these forums, we have had exactly nothing from them except a changed EULA and these new changes. This game apparently isn't even worth a referral on their site (Check their site, click ALL games, you won't find PA ....).
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Also, for the first time since i started playing this game in R2, posts from my hand have been deleted (posts declaring this an idiocy). Aren't we allowed to call ppl idiots anymore? It sure was allowed before. I wasnt even THAT abusive. Yet 2 of my posts criticizing this new 'wonder' were fastly removed. Jagex censorship?
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Re: Congrats CIN

Well tbh its nothing new about jagex doing shite, seems like appoc cant even contact those guys

anyhow this is the most retarded change ever, the stats sucks this rnd, the new login sucks, everything sucks.

Lets make a bet when PA will be down to less than 300 active ppl playing...

Ill give it 1 yr.
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[20:30] <Appocomaster> Kai: because whilst you've all been complaining
[20:30] <Appocomaster> we've been speaking to Jagex
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[20:30] <Appocomaster> to ask if they'll relent
[20:30] <Appocomaster> and then, after I finalise stats tonight or tomorrow morning
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[20:30] <Appocomaster> I'll hopefully be coding it
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[20:31] <Appocomaster> to allow for alliance nicknames and ruler names to be different


To be fair to him he is trying to sort it out so well done Appocomaster - but overall how did this change intially get through without a fight from the PA Team. As far as im aware your all ex players who stepped up to assume your current roles so you should ALL know how much of a pain this change is and how quickly it would be rejected by the community. DCing and Intel are 2 massive aspects of the game that keep players playing PA and that one changed pretty much made both rubbish in a keystroke. Whoever at Jagez decided it would be a good idea has obviously never played PA in an alliance and tbh none of them should be able to offer up changes to 'improve' the game until they have done so.

As an idea why dont 10-15 of them (id assume thats the size of there team) get split maybe 2 per allaince throughout the established top 10 for a round and then they can see what PA is about. I seriously doubt any of them have ever signed up to PA tho and are unlikely to do so also.
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That's a pretty good idea kai
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