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10 Apr 2003, 06:43
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highers ranked non WEET-gal?
What is the highest ranked non-WEET-gal?
#370?
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10 Apr 2003, 07:19
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Another WEET is evil thread?
Dont you ppl have other things to do?
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10 Apr 2003, 07:28
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my gal was 17 millions, maybe we are the highest ranked.
regarding to the incomings today we are a top 100 gal
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10 Apr 2003, 07:38
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[DTA][VTS] G Unit [NFU] (48:1) Score: 16.344.000
not top200 even.
im sure there are higher.
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10 Apr 2003, 08:21
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Friends & Foes (41:10) Score: 28.767.000
top 105. was top 50 a week ago thou...
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10 Apr 2003, 08:36
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we had some problem taking you out, atleast nr 1, finally got through yesterday..
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10 Apr 2003, 09:12
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Re: highers ranked non WEET-gal?
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Originally posted by Hurragutten
What is the highest ranked non-WEET-gal?
#370?
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Sinds I'm not in Planetarion atm I don't even have a clue what WEET is. All i get from all the story's an threads is that they are some big alliance with like 1000 members. But in the rounds before round 9 we had VtS Fury Wolfpack Virus etc. But even tho we had some good rounds and all the little alliance fromed NoS.
So there can be done some thing against the powerblocks.
And now there is 1 alliance ruling the game. But why can't all the other people join up. If you want to make this an interesting round you make sure you destroy WEED. Altho WEED always grows back you can alteast try to kick some ass.
So make some alliances to get a few more gall int the 100 that are not from WEED.
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10 Apr 2003, 09:21
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Quote:
Originally posted by MadeMan
we had some problem taking you out, atleast nr 1, finally got through yesterday..
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Heh, WHO got through you say?
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10 Apr 2003, 09:22
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Rah's def wh0re
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MAHAHAHAHAHHA stil top 100 and no incoming today (or not yet)
And I know Higher ranked NAR gals
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10 Apr 2003, 09:25
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Gimme coords and I'll hook you up with some friends of mine.. They are called Pegasus, demeter and wvern. They all swallow and really enjoy a 4-some from time to time.
-TheRat
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10 Apr 2003, 09:33
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Quote:
Originally posted by Legator
my gal was 17 millions, maybe we are the highest ranked.
regarding to the incomings today we are a top 100 gal
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17 mill and top 100?
ps to weet; is it really that fun to have 3 waves going to a gal thats ranked 100-150? Been a week since we dropped below 2k roids fs :P
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10 Apr 2003, 09:33
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Quote:
Originally posted by ThaRat
Heh, WHO got through you say?
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Well you got through, and we joined..
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10 Apr 2003, 09:38
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Quote:
Originally posted by MadeMan
we had some problem taking you out, atleast nr 1, finally got through yesterday..
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yes, sending 100k atm him really is skill
spineless
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10 Apr 2003, 09:40
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Quote:
Originally posted by Knight Theamion
yes, sending 100k atm him really is skill
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10 Apr 2003, 09:40
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It was a waved attack.. And 70k of those were killer(fighter) fleets sent to scare of all those multi/Farm/scan planets always deffing him.. Sad tho, they ran away
-TheRat
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10 Apr 2003, 09:44
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Quote:
Originally posted by ThaRat
It was a waved attack.. And 70k of those were killer(fighter) fleets sent to scare of all those multi/Farm/scan planets always deffing him.. Sad tho, they ran away
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I assume you are talking about a planet in c fortyone ?
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10 Apr 2003, 09:48
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That would be it.. Since we are not allowed to say coords here, I can only say it's c41, p10, and it's planet nr 1, not like that would reveal anything, right?
-TheRat
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10 Apr 2003, 09:52
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haha yea WEET you rawk!!! woooohoooo...
:e_chick: "My Name's Rat And I PWN!"
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10 Apr 2003, 09:52
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Quote:
Originally posted by ThaRat
That would be it.. Since we are not allowed to say coords here, I can only say it's c41, p10, and it's planet nr 1, not like that would reveal anything, right?
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Then get your facts straight.
Theres a difference between multi/scan/farm/ghey planets, and small alliances doing their best.
over..and over..and over...and...
I passed 2 mill about 4 days ago, i've deffed that planet 3 or more times, does that make me one of those multifarmingscanwhores you're talking about?
Get a clue before you bull**** others.
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10 Apr 2003, 09:53
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Well, I was rather thinking of the 10-15 planets who ran yesterday, those with an average score of about 500k..
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10 Apr 2003, 09:57
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Ark-miner wannabe
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Btw if Ely so rock and all that bla bla we took him down, why did it take you 2 weeks?
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10 Apr 2003, 09:59
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Heh, we succeeded on first attempt.. It was mademan and co who were struggeling.. That gal was claimed for us yesterday, we new about the expected def, so we decided to wave big time.. With great results. I got 80 roids (bah), a gal mate got ~200 and gc got ~4-500.
-TheRat
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10 Apr 2003, 09:59
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Rah's def wh0re
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Quote:
Originally posted by dabult
Btw if Ely so rock and all that bla bla we took him down, why did it take you 2 weeks?
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No skill NUFF said
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Rd4 ---> 246 24 10 Silverwolf of Limburg [TFD] [Cell] [NFU]
Rd5 ---> 34 11 19 The great Returning of me [Cell] [NFU]
Rd6----> 6 25 10 Chappa'ai of NOX Homeland (Whitebull) [Silver BC]
Rd7----> 18 18 1 Klaj Demon of Gateway from Hell [RAH]
Rd8----> 36 5 6 1 More TIME of Free Traders Inc [RAH]
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10 Apr 2003, 10:01
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Quote:
Originally posted by ThaRat
Heh, we succeeded on first attempt.. It was mademan and co who were struggeling.. That gal was claimed for us yesterday, we new about the expected def, so we decided to wave big time.. With great results. I got 80 roids (bah), a gal mate got ~200 and gc got ~4-500.
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Ah, so you let them wave him pretty much on a daily basis (i believe first big one was instantly after weet/nar broke), and when you felt his def was getting exhausted you sent massive overkill and got through.
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10 Apr 2003, 10:09
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Quote:
Originally posted by ThaRat
Well, I was rather thinking of the 10-15 planets who ran yesterday, those with an average score of about 500k..
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Shut up.
I smell a candidate.
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10 Apr 2003, 10:12
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Tells much about this round, when ppl are trying to take credit for landing on a planet that's support (galaxy/alliance/friends) is 1/100th of the alliance/bg attacking.
You cannot be that clueless about the power-balance of this round in the last 2-3 weeks, to seriously say we actually have a chance to defend against coordinated attacks. But attacks have been lousy, indeed.
Real honor comes taking down STRONGER enemy, by outwising them, not smashing smaller planets just at the attack-limit range.
But, this is the situation, no other targets left I suppose. Thank your HC's
Ruxu
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10 Apr 2003, 10:20
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well my gal has had many confrontaisions with this gal in c40 p10, and planet 1 has always gotten loads off def, something i admire, we had some probs taking him down alone(first attack after weet/nar split) then we didnt get whole through so we got some m8s to help us out. they lost some but not much, and ever since i belive they ahve had inc almsot everyday, but planet 1 didnt go down until yesterday, i admire him for always getting enough def, but last night he had so much inc, that it would almost had been impossibel to def with out heavy losses.
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10 Apr 2003, 10:26
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Quote:
Originally posted by ThaRat
Well, I was rather thinking of the 10-15 planets who ran yesterday, those with an average score of about 500k..
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Are you generalising every planet under 1 mil as a scan multi planet ? Or do you have some other sort of proff to back up your statement ? Lots of words, little proff almost no action
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10 Apr 2003, 10:52
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Quote:
Originally posted by Knight Theamion
yes, sending 100k atm him really is skill
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i wonder what you were doing be4 you got kicked for being defectors:P
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10 Apr 2003, 10:55
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Quote:
Originally posted by dabult
17 mill and top 100?
ps to weet; is it really that fun to have 3 waves going to a gal thats ranked 100-150? Been a week since we dropped below 2k roids fs :P
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Since when is "really fun" a criteria for launching a roid raid?
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10 Apr 2003, 11:05
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I'm who you want me to be
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Quote:
Originally posted by ThaRat
Well, I was rather thinking of the 10-15 planets who ran yesterday, those with an average score of about 500k..
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Ye right.
Get your facts straight.
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10 Apr 2003, 11:06
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Quote:
Originally posted by ThaRat
Heh, we succeeded on first attempt.. It was mademan and co who were struggeling.. That gal was claimed for us yesterday, we new about the expected def, so we decided to wave big time.. With great results. I got 80 roids (bah), a gal mate got ~200 and gc got ~4-500.
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I'm sure you and your 400 brothers showed some real skill there with sending those massive overkills.
Not to mention it only took you like two weeks.
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10 Apr 2003, 11:22
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Quote:
Originally posted by hook
I'm sure you and your 400 brothers showed some real skill there with sending those massive overkills.
Not to mention it only took you like two weeks.
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dont go here nagging about skills, the only one in that gal that showed some skills was nr 1, and 9+10, rest well i wont say the word..
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10 Apr 2003, 11:40
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Quote:
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Well, I was rather thinking of the 10-15 planets who ran yesterday, those with an average score of about 500k..
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dude that is the average score for us non-weet members...
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10 Apr 2003, 11:44
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Hehe first you roid us to death and bash us to the ground then you call us farms....
Ofc we are farms...farms for you and you made us to farms...
Fighting a futile war you shouid show us respect for still delivering you a battle.
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tztzt there is a 2 mil planet with 200 roids in my gal and he has 30k of ships incoming atm...
Don't ask me about skill here. I know you have, but you don't need to use it atm..and you don't do it!
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Quote:
Originally posted by MadeMan
dont go here nagging about skills, the only one in that gal that showed some skills was nr 1, and 9+10, rest well i wont say the word..
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Is that a band aid? It ain't doing the trick.
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10 Apr 2003, 12:48
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No skill NUFF said
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LOL @ u
do u even think we plan on killing planets anny more ?
please... heh WeeT can pretty much level annything in the universe not in Vac mode at this stage. Its more about," fss why bother, its not like they can fight. "
If one galaxy or planet where getting to annoying... well im sure u can guess the outcome.
but take your 'victory' on this one Im sure it will boost morale.
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Originally posted by Stress
LOL @ u
do u even think we plan on killing planets anny more ?
please... heh WeeT can pretty much level annything in the universe not in Vac mode at this stage. Its more about," fss why bother, its not like they can fight. "
If one galaxy or planet where getting to annoying... well im sure u can guess the outcome.
but take your 'victory' on this one Im sure it will boost morale.
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Rd1 ---> 2 26 9 Captain Stone Chance of Dalriada [WAC/Leviathan federation]
Rd2 ---> 53 25 20 The First General of P'holt [TFD]
Rd3 ---> 22 16 20 The First General of Posterholt [TFD]
Rd4 ---> 246 24 10 Silverwolf of Limburg [TFD] [Cell] [NFU]
Rd5 ---> 34 11 19 The great Returning of me [Cell] [NFU]
Rd6----> 6 25 10 Chappa'ai of NOX Homeland (Whitebull) [Silver BC]
Rd7----> 18 18 1 Klaj Demon of Gateway from Hell [RAH]
Rd8----> 36 5 6 1 More TIME of Free Traders Inc [RAH]
Rd9----> 16 2 10 Clan McIntosh of Stardust Guardian [RAH]
Rd9.5 ---> 15 9 9 Nightshade of Sherwood forest [RAH]
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Quote:
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dont go here nagging about skills, the only one in that gal that showed some skills was nr 1, and 9+10, rest well i wont say the word..
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Who said I wasn't referring to #1.
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I where disccussing him.
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10 Apr 2003, 13:31
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Originally posted by dabult
17 mill and top 100?
ps to weet; is it really that fun to have 3 waves going to a gal thats ranked 100-150? Been a week since we dropped below 2k roids fs :P
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our incomings were as much as a top 100 gal should get.
no, we were around 200, now 250 i think.
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Originally posted by Stress
LOL @ u
do u even think we plan on killing planets anny more ?
please... heh WeeT can pretty much level annything in the universe not in Vac mode at this stage. Its more about," fss why bother, its not like they can fight. "
If one galaxy or planet where getting to annoying... well im sure u can guess the outcome.
but take your 'victory' on this one Im sure it will boost morale.
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now now children play nicely with each other and share the roids there are plenty for everyone no need for anyone to be greedy
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Quote:
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dont go here nagging about skills, the only one in that gal that showed some skills was nr 1, and 9+10, rest well i wont say the word..
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I assume you refer to the little roids the rest of us have. I can explain that one. If you know what has been coming for all of us the last two weeks, and you realise that practically everyone else that is allied to us is getting the same, you also know that we didnt get overwhelming defences lately. This means that we had to put up with a tough tactic for you greedy guys: teamplay! Why stay at home when you are sure to lose your roids anyway if your ships can be of guaranteed use at a place that IS getting defence (hirr had less incomings) AND has more roids to protect.
Therefore me and my galmates played abandon planet and defended ProSaturn and / or WereWolf. You tell me where the lack of skill or dedication is in this, apart from me pratically stopping attacking since the weet-ownage began.
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Re: highers ranked non WEET-gal?
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What is the highest ranked non-WEET-gal?
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Quote:
Originally posted by Stress
LOL @ u
do u even think we plan on killing planets anny more ?
please... heh WeeT can pretty much level annything in the universe not in Vac mode at this stage. Its more about," fss why bother, its not like they can fight. "
If one galaxy or planet where getting to annoying... well im sure u can guess the outcome.
but take your 'victory' on this one Im sure it will boost morale.
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Try to make the last bit of the round fun and go WE vs. ET or something.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Stress
LOL @ u
do u even think we plan on killing planets anny more ?
please... heh WeeT can pretty much level annything in the universe not in Vac mode at this stage. Its more about," fss why bother, its not like they can fight. "
If one galaxy or planet where getting to annoying... well im sure u can guess the outcome.
but take your 'victory' on this one Im sure it will boost morale.
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you sure talk big for an alliance that's been nothing for the last 6 rounds and took 2/3rds of the universe to get you to where you are now
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10 Apr 2003, 15:45
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lithuania
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Originally posted by K-W
Since when is "really fun" a criteria for launching a roid raid?
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Poor K/W
I guess Planetarion stopped being fun for some people when Planetarion stopped being a game for them.
FFS get a life, it's just a game, take some chances!h
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Fighting over the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if u win ur still retarded
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10 Apr 2003, 15:47
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lithuania
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Originally posted by Stress
LOL @ u
do u even think we plan on killing planets anny more ?
please... heh WeeT can pretty much level annything in the universe not in Vac mode at this stage.
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I don't know what is more sad.
The fact this guy is an HC in the ruling powerblock, or the fact that an HC in the ruling powerblock has the guts to admit they are stagnating the game and not seeing how cowardly or sadly that is.
PLD Stress. loser
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10 Apr 2003, 16:02
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the Mantis
Join Date: May 2001
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my gal is still top150
btw, the **** these WEET punks trying nowadays? msging me saying we will get crushed if we def each other...
[edit]Censor evasion by using 'Norwegian' is forbidden by the rules. Do it again and you lose your account. - Jester[/edit]
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The technique depends mainly on almen finger strength. once you have that next step is to learn how to pierce stone. Well you might asswell start practising now.
You know the mantis ledgends? thats where it all started. It was fighting of this black bird, it was only a 10th of the birds size. it was a very valued insect. and thats why the technique needs a brave man and a strong one, who isnt afraid of birds.
Last edited by Jester; 10 Apr 2003 at 16:09.
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