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21 Mar 2003, 12:57
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Käptn Karacho
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How far will alliance Mil Commanders go ?
i'm talking about the ones who select the target galaxies every night. how far will they go to (im not saying abuse their position but rather to) favour a certain - maybe their onw - galaxy ?
here is what i witnessed this round:
so i'm sitting in this low profile vom galaxy tho we aren't doing too bad score/roid wise. the main reason for that is that we weren't attacked yet... until today. as it happens we aren't under attack by just anyone, no it's one of the top galaxies.
now what i'm wondering is: are certain gals left alone on purpose so the top gal have juicy targets around they can pick on and do u think that fair game on the rest of their block ?
now i'm not claimimng that this is all in fact true - could just be a coincidence. then again we are dealing with ppl who have spent 9 rounds playing this game and who know all the lil tricks to succeed over almost equally good galaxies...
...my 0.02€
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21 Mar 2003, 13:01
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I rarely pick a target for my bg that I cant take at least one target in. Being one of the larger members it would be a bit stupid for me to sit home and not be attacking.
But I dont seach for the gal with 2 perfect targets for me, take them, then open the raid and say 'fk the rest'. It is a team thing afterall.
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21 Mar 2003, 13:26
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Re: How far will alliance Mil Commanders go ?
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Originally posted by at0mic.c0w
i'm talking about the ones who select the target galaxies every night. how far will they go to (im not saying abuse their position but rather to) favour a certain - maybe their onw - galaxy ?
here is what i witnessed this round:
so i'm sitting in this low profile vom galaxy tho we aren't doing too bad score/roid wise. the main reason for that is that we weren't attacked yet... until today. as it happens we aren't under attack by just anyone, no it's one of the top galaxies.
now what i'm wondering is: are certain gals left alone on purpose so the top gal have juicy targets around they can pick on and do u think that fair game on the rest of their block ?
now i'm not claimimng that this is all in fact true - could just be a coincidence. then again we are dealing with ppl who have spent 9 rounds playing this game and who know all the lil tricks to succeed over almost equally good galaxies...
...my 0.02€
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My gal hasnt been on the top score wise (lurking around 80-100) but it has been quite high roid wise. For some strange reason we were one of the last vom gals to get hit consider we had lots of roids. And now when we finally get hit its one of the top gals that does the first wave... (except for the crappy income we had yesterday heh)
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21 Mar 2003, 13:43
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Käptn Karacho
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i see a pattern emerging... not that this is of any help to anyone tho
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21 Mar 2003, 13:50
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Re: Re: How far will alliance Mil Commanders go ?
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Originally posted by CrazyConrad
My gal hasnt been on the top score wise (lurking around 80-100) but it has been quite high roid wise. For some strange reason we were one of the last vom gals to get hit consider we had lots of roids. And now when we finally get hit its one of the top gals that does the first wave... (except for the crappy income we had yesterday heh)
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Well, it is wrong to let your top gays take top hostile gal. Probably not. Saving up target for them to hit seems like a bad tactic especially as even within the block there are so many topgals who might claim the target anyways.
What I seem to look at is that the narsweetfz combo hits sevral para's as theri main effort. Everything in those para's is hit not looking wheteher it is vvomm or not. Because this is not enough additional hostile targets are added. They are often juice but not nescesarily only the top gals. It seem more what is needed at the time. So a good gal in a para not hit fully yet could have had the luck to survive. but by now just about all para's must have had at least one hit, several two full hits even. Off course a narswwetfz BC could probably give any indication is this is about right.
hAl
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21 Mar 2003, 13:55
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Join Date: Dec 2000
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Re: Re: How far will alliance Mil Commanders go ?
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Originally posted by CrazyConrad
My gal hasnt been on the top score wise (lurking around 80-100) but it has been quite high roid wise. For some strange reason we were one of the last vom gals to get hit consider we had lots of roids. And now when we finally get hit its one of the top gals that does the first wave... (except for the crappy income we had yesterday heh)
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we probably havent known it was vom then. and left it alone untill now.
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21 Mar 2003, 14:49
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I find it kinda amusing how WEET has the very helpful attitude of letting planets in sub 350-gals tag along when ranked 11 and 16 gals attack, heh.
Oh and the "oh crap you were'nt in our arbiter, we'll recall now that you mention it" (we=NaR)
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21 Mar 2003, 15:01
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Originally posted by dabult
I find it kinda amusing how WEET has the very helpful attitude of letting planets in sub 350-gals tag along when ranked 11 and 16 gals attack, heh.
Oh and the "oh crap you were'nt in our arbiter, we'll recall now that you mention it" (we=NaR)
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don't tell me you're 1 bit surprised heh
to the point of this thread.. i doubt any top gal will really attack another top gal as chance of having defence is quite big... (you don't make top for nuthin) and they don't wanna loose fleets (same goes for me btw) once newsies come i'm sure the top gals will take higher ranking gals as targets aswell
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21 Mar 2003, 15:02
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Re: Re: Re: How far will alliance Mil Commanders go ?
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Originally posted by hAl
Well, it is wrong to let your top gays take top hostile gal.
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Oi! Watch yer mouth boyo some people might get offended
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21 Mar 2003, 15:09
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In my para at least, its a 1st come 1st served basis, which is why the remaining big gals are snapped up. my target today had 6 xans in :/
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21 Mar 2003, 15:34
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Its probably what stress says, you weren't considered vom or hostile enough to attack or your p/c hasn't been targeted yet.
I dont believe alliances save juicy gals for their top gals, gals probably pick themselves out of a choice of gals in a certain para/cluster which their respective alliances want to attack, you can probably assume that the top gals have better targetpickers :P
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21 Mar 2003, 15:35
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Re: Re: Re: Re: How far will alliance Mil Commanders go ?
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Originally posted by black-eyed boy
Oi! Watch yer mouth boyo some people might get offended
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Actually I wanted to say: Is it wrong to let your top guysd take a top hostile gal ?
hAl
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21 Mar 2003, 16:22
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Re: Re: Re: How far will alliance Mil Commanders go ?
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Originally posted by Stress
we probably havent known it was vom then. and left it alone untill now.
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Nah, some gals were claimed, but not launched on, so they can be recruited into WeeT
This happened to 1 ' Ex VoM' gal for sure
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21 Mar 2003, 16:42
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Do you have any idea how much time the average Military Officer puts into the alliance? The very least they deserve is a nice target.
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21 Mar 2003, 16:51
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Käptn Karacho
Join Date: Nov 2000
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Quote:
Originally posted by Teh_Necro
Do you have any idea how much time the average Military Officer puts into the alliance? The very least they deserve is a nice target.
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granted. but do they actually exploit their powers to the extent I described ? i'm not saying that it wouldn't be the work of a mastermind
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21 Mar 2003, 16:51
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Quote:
Originally posted by Teh_Necro
Do you have any idea how much time the average Military Officer puts into the alliance? The very least they deserve is a nice target.
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Correct. But he is asking if you ever get a "No you can't attack them tonight, because they're for my gal tomorrow" sort of situation.
And I've never seen it happen, people just pick what is best for them that night, without worrying about booking days in advance. I'm 99% sure it doesn't happen in any alliance/block too, since it's just greed and wouldn't be tolerated by anyone.
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21 Mar 2003, 17:11
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Pedantic hypocrite
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Quote:
Originally posted by Teh_Necro
Do you have any idea how much time the average Military Officer puts into the alliance? The very least they deserve is a nice target.
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The average Military Officer is a ****ing slacker who doesn't do ****. It's the few dedicated blokes who actually 'deserve' something. Though in my ever so humble opinion they volunteered for the job, so they're entitled to exactly dick all. Though I also think the Military dept. should lead the alliance, in which case they can do whatever the hell they want
Jester
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21 Mar 2003, 17:21
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well -hmmm --
I'm sure it does happen sometimes -- But I also agree that by taking the responsibility of organizing defense/attack and the work load they have to cover, that they should also get a few (not a lot) perks for the hc positions...
One of the reason I'm proud of Vision - is because on one night I watched several of our high command arrange defense for players - and then when they too got attacked they were without defense themselves.. they had already used the resources (and had been concentrating on taking care of everyone they could) that when it finally came to themselves - they had only their own fleet left to work with -- Many of Vision's HC took a beating that night, but they also earned my respect!
In the Uber-war's this round there is obviously no way to cover enough defense for everyone at all...
Oh and a side note -- no I am not an HC -- just a lowly peon in the ranks -- an experienced peon - but a peon just the same..
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21 Mar 2003, 19:31
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I pick the best targets for my alliance pure and simple, sur eif my gal wants a target i'll tyr to find a suitbale one etc, but it wont get priority over any gal/bg etc wanting a target
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21 Mar 2003, 20:33
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'perk of the job'
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21 Mar 2003, 23:04
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well.. I dont really think the target thingy is so organized as one of our dear VOMM members pointed out it migth be.
truly the trouble theese days is getting enough noobs to play PA.
...only because they now are doin the p2p thingy (witch they have done for some while...)
it would be easy'er for fair play to find its way in if there where more ppl playing and not all of them as skilled as the once played today... <-- this would create more medium and small sized gals (with roids and score in mind..)
and this would provide with more targets for everyone. not making VOMM or anyone else feel "hunted"...
...could some of this be true ?
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21 Mar 2003, 23:44
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Quote:
Originally posted by Teh_Necro
Do you have any idea how much time the average Military Officer puts into the alliance? The very least they deserve is a nice target.
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join our side..we got plenty of good targets
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22 Mar 2003, 01:41
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Back when I used to do this sort of thing, I awlays chose and gave targets out by using math.. the amont of roids was not the primary concern. Then again I am not greedy, I perfer to see my organization succeed over my personal score.
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22 Mar 2003, 02:18
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Re: How far will alliance Mil Commanders go ?
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Originally posted by at0mic.c0w
i'm talking about the ones who select the target galaxies every night. how far will they go to (im not saying abuse their position but rather to) favour a certain - maybe their onw - galaxy ?
here is what i witnessed this round:
so i'm sitting in this low profile vom galaxy tho we aren't doing too bad score/roid wise. the main reason for that is that we weren't attacked yet... until today. as it happens we aren't under attack by just anyone, no it's one of the top galaxies.
now what i'm wondering is: are certain gals left alone on purpose so the top gal have juicy targets around they can pick on and do u think that fair game on the rest of their block ?
now i'm not claimimng that this is all in fact true - could just be a coincidence. then again we are dealing with ppl who have spent 9 rounds playing this game and who know all the lil tricks to succeed over almost equally good galaxies...
...my 0.02€
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The level of trust between TEENWAR isn't large enough, they would take them the day after or whatever and then your 'candy' is gone.
No way.
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22 Mar 2003, 22:01
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Re: How far will alliance Mil Commanders go ?
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Originally posted by at0mic.c0w
so i'm sitting in this low profile vom galaxy tho we aren't doing too bad score/roid wise. the main reason for that is that we weren't attacked yet... until today. as it happens we aren't under attack by just anyone, no it's one of the top galaxies.
now what i'm wondering is: are certain gals left alone on purpose so the top gal have juicy targets around they can pick on and do u think that fair game on the rest of their block ?
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That doesn't happen within NaR, ofc I cannot speak for WEET, but I would highly doubt it. I imagine the reason your galaxy had not been attacked was due to either a 'low profile' where you haven't attacked any major nar/weet galaxies much, maybe concentrating on non-alligned and thus hadn't been marked as 'hostile', or because you have someone in your galaxy who was giving you protection until now.
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23 Mar 2003, 00:18
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Mcs are so nice DDDD
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23 Mar 2003, 01:51
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23 Mar 2003, 04:14
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Käptn Karacho
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on a side: note it's funny to see the reactions of the ppl who are (supposedly) in that galaxy...
but as theamion said - the cooperation between narweet might not be big enough. tho maybe there are ways around that like puting a hostile gal into the arbiter ?!?
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