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Unread 1 Mar 2018, 21:46   #1
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Re: Rd 76 Stats

Are these final now with all changes applied?
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Re: Rd 76 Stats

Way too defensive. Ter De, Xan De, Zik Fr and Etd Fr only need three ships for full coverage. Ter Bs, Xan Fi, Zik Co and Etd Cr only need four. Both Cat fleets need five, for some reason, and their effs are in the shitter as well.
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Re: Rd 76 Stats

You must hate cath to be treating them so badly. Only t2 emp vs DE...
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Re: Rd 76 Stats

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Re: Rd 76 Stats

So now what?
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We run em and hope for the best?
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Re: Rd 76 Stats

These stats will lead to a ridiculously boring round

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Re: Rd 76 Stats

When will cath emp eff be finished?
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Re: Rd 76 Stats

Maybe lower the dmg of Apparition by a lot?
They are far too strong vs De now. If they had 300-400 dmg eff you would still see xan def accounts with them. At 500 they kill almost 100% in value and no way to counter them.
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Re: Rd 76 Stats

defence fort round... congrats ult
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Re: Rd 76 Stats

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defence fort round... congrats ult
We have all signed EOR naps with them, you should too!
Lets atleast wait for effs and targetting to be fixed, before shutting down all other options than forts.
Find it wierd theyve so far from being completed though
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Re: Rd 76 Stats

Let's say it's all finished now.
What should still be changed?
Not sure these general comments are helping.
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Re: Rd 76 Stats

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Maybe lower the dmg of Apparition by a lot?
They are far too strong vs De now. If they had 300-400 dmg eff you would still see xan def accounts with them. At 500 they kill almost 100% in value and no way to counter them.
I'm inclined to agree with this.

Also, I agree with the Cath emp efficiency being far too low - especially when considering they have to build 4 ships to cover all classes when building an attack fleet.
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Re: Rd 76 Stats

1. EMP effs need to be adjusted

2. Forcing allies to go for xan defence planets regardless of ship strategy will be unhealty for how the stats play out. The apparition simply is way too good, every alliance can stop another DE tag 100% by having a few xan defence planet.

3. Wether wygern or dragon target DE as T2 dosnt matter much, if you want to nerph ter switching them around would do a lot.

4. Make locust "normal" or swap the T1/T2 with the widow. Looking at it at first glance i dont understand why anyone would build this ship. Also if you want CO as a more favourable ship strat option you need defensive synergy, wich you would improve with swapping targetting on locust.

5. Roach/Broker the same ship basicly, swapping T1 and T2 on roach would make cat/etd teamups better, and it would give cath a T1 DE wich you need against every xan roiding class in most sets.

6. Another xan DE ship could make cath and partly ETD more viable. Having a 3rd xan that fires at T1 CR and removing T2 on spectre would force you to spread the value more.
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Re: Rd 76 Stats

Stats are final and have been handed over to Jintao/Appoco for implementation.
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Re: Rd 76 Stats

Locust changed from normal anti-Co to EMP anti-Fi. Widow gained T2 Bs. Some shuffling of Bs ERes and anti-Bs EMP guns and cost.

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Re: Rd 76 Stats

Do any ships have different eta than what you expect from their class?
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Re: Rd 76 Stats

Last round, they were listed on the stats page. Since this round they aren't, I assume all the ETAs are class-based again.

On a sidenote, changing the formatting of the stats page back again is incredibly annoying.
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Do any ships have different eta than what you expect from their class?
The speedgame stats page doesnt support etas but they have been added.

I guess you will be able to view them properly once uploaded ingame.
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Re: Rd 76 Stats

Appoco, it would be nice if we could see those before they are made final-final.
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Appoco, it would be nice if we could see those before they are made final-final.
The etas?
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Re: Rd 76 Stats

Yes. Whether a ship can make ally defense ETA or not is rather important.
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Re: Rd 76 Stats

original stats

The stats arent current as i made the last few changes solely on speedgame but the etas are accurate if that helps you.

For the record i did ask to be moved to beta server so you could all see them but Jintao didnt want to kick paisley off as his stats are in progress
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Re: Rd 76 Stats

Oh, did Paisley put them there! I did wonder where they ended up.
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Oh, did Paisley put them there! I did wonder where they ended up.
Yes they were already up there when i submitted my first draft
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