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Unread 4 Dec 2015, 21:24   #1
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R64 Inc stats

Incoming stats for the last 11 days of the round (last 261 ticks).
Stats are fully based on news scans and should be pretty accurate;
Alliance is taken at the time of fleet launched;
When/If PA team supplies me with fleet data of the round more stats will be posted.

Also posted on pastebin since that doesn't require so much scrolling: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=CperPWar

Code:
Day 39 - 49: 915 - 1175: 261 ticks
Code:
| To \ From    | Ult   | Face  | p3n   | BF    | CT    | RB    | AG    | HR    | ND    | FC    | PATSA | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| Ultores      |       |   350 |   567 |   201 |     5 |       |   172 |     1 |    80 |     4 |       |    84 |  1464 |
| Faceless     |   403 |       |   186 |   165 |    33 |       |       |       |    60 |    10 |       |    63 |   920 |
| p3nguins     |   127 |    56 |       |       |    31 |   183 |     1 |   242 |       |     8 |       |    32 |   680 |
| Black Flag   |     2 |    88 |       |       |   117 |       |    34 |       |    65 |    15 |       |    20 |   341 |
| Conspiracy   |     1 |    15 |     2 |    39 |       |   225 |       |   109 |       |     4 |       |    26 |   421 |
| RainbowS     |       |       |    98 |       |   326 |       |    95 |       |   225 |     6 |       |    33 |   783 |
| Åsgard       |   113 |     8 |     8 |    16 |       |    40 |       |    26 |    47 |    14 |       |    14 |   286 |
| Howling Rain |       |       |    46 |       |    82 |       |    44 |       |   100 |     4 |       |    73 |   349 |
| NewDawn      |     4 |    50 |       |    56 |       |    53 |    36 |    31 |       |     1 |       |    64 |   295 |
| FIGHTCLUB    |       |       |     6 |    29 |     1 |     4 |     4 |     1 |     1 |       |       |       |    46 |
| PATSA        |       |       |       |       |       |     3 |       |       |       |       |       |     3 |     6 |
| Other        |    25 |    73 |    18 |    57 |    24 |    47 |    56 |   101 |    65 |       |       |   145 |   611 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|        Total |   675 |   640 |   931 |   563 |   619 |   555 |   442 |   511 |   643 |    66 |       |   557 |  6202 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
\ row = fleets *to* that alliance
\ column = fleets *from* that alliance
Code:
Incs per day:
| Day | From |  To  |  #  || Ult   | Face  | p3n   | BF    | CT    | RB    | AG    | HR    | ND    | FC    | PATSA | Other | Total |
|-----|------|------|-----||-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|  39 |  915 |  938 |  24 ||   118 |    43 |    88 |     6 |    35 |    59 |    17 |    40 |    72 |     2 |       |    50 |   530 |
|  40 |  939 |  962 |  24 ||   111 |    35 |   120 |    24 |    47 |    12 |    27 |    61 |    34 |     2 |       |   100 |   573 |
|  41 |  963 |  986 |  24 ||   232 |    16 |    26 |     9 |    32 |    86 |    40 |    57 |     5 |     2 |       |    40 |   545 |
|  42 |  987 | 1010 |  24 ||   267 |    52 |    87 |    41 |     8 |    20 |    14 |     9 |    16 |     4 |       |    55 |   573 |
|  43 | 1011 | 1034 |  24 ||   223 |    17 |    48 |    12 |    48 |    42 |    58 |    22 |    33 |     2 |       |    31 |   536 |
|  44 | 1035 | 1058 |  24 ||   196 |    23 |    18 |     9 |    72 |    25 |     9 |    42 |    23 |     3 |     3 |    59 |   482 |
|  45 | 1059 | 1082 |  24 ||    14 |   242 |    81 |    22 |    21 |    66 |     3 |    38 |    15 |     4 |       |    54 |   560 |
|  46 | 1083 | 1106 |  24 ||    40 |   211 |    29 |    43 |    57 |    58 |    24 |    25 |    18 |     1 |       |    45 |   551 |
|  47 | 1107 | 1130 |  24 ||   129 |   177 |    76 |     9 |     7 |   104 |    14 |     9 |    35 |       |       |    53 |   613 |
|  48 | 1131 | 1154 |  24 ||   122 |    44 |    21 |    39 |    63 |   112 |    37 |    23 |    28 |    26 |     1 |    87 |   603 |
|  49 | 1155 | 1175 |  21 ||    12 |    60 |    86 |   127 |    31 |   199 |    43 |    23 |    16 |       |     2 |    37 |   636 |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|                   Total ||  1464 |   920 |   680 |   341 |   421 |   783 |   286 |   349 |   295 |    46 |     6 |   611 |  6202 |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Code:
Incs to top 10 planets
| To \ From    | Ult   | Face  | p3n   | BF    | CT    | RB    | AG    | HR    | ND    | FC    | PATSA | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| 8:1:7        |    73 |       |     8 |     9 |       |       |       |       |       |    10 |       |     3 |   103 |
| 7:4:3        |       |    73 |    93 |    14 |     3 |       |   108 |       |     1 |     1 |       |     3 |   296 |
| 6:8:3        |    37 |     1 |       |       |       |     2 |     1 |       |       |       |       |     7 |    48 |
| 6:7:4        |    44 |       |     8 |       |       |     3 |       |     3 |     2 |    14 |       |       |    74 |
| 4:9:7        |       |       |    20 |       |    32 |       |    27 |       |     7 |       |       |     5 |    91 |
| 6:7:1        |    15 |       |    19 |     1 |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    11 |    46 |
| 8:8:6        |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     3 |     3 |
| 8:1:2        |    55 |       |     2 |     2 |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     3 |    62 |
| 3:2:1        |       |     7 |    61 |       |       |       |     3 |       |     7 |     1 |       |     4 |    83 |
| 4:2:7        |     3 |     4 |       |       |       |    12 |       |       |       |       |       |     4 |    23 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
Code:
Incs to top 5 galaxies
| To \ From    | Ult   | Face  | p3n   | BF    | CT    | RB    | AG    | HR    | ND    | FC    | PATSA | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| 6:8          |   102 |    29 |     4 |     2 |    51 |     3 |    35 |     1 |     3 |    15 |       |     9 |   254 |
| 7:4          |    11 |   120 |   227 |   108 |     3 |     6 |   144 |    10 |     3 |     1 |       |    11 |   644 |
| 6:7          |    73 |    23 |    79 |     8 |       |    24 |     3 |    37 |     7 |    14 |       |    11 |   279 |
| 3:2          |    21 |     7 |    87 |     8 |     2 |     3 |     3 |     1 |    17 |     1 |       |    21 |   171 |
| 4:9          |       |    15 |    26 |     6 |    72 |     2 |    47 |       |    18 |       |       |    32 |   218 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
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Unread 5 Dec 2015, 12:42   #2
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Re: R64 Inc stats

Pal plz faceless clearly had 400+ perdaymkay
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Re: R64 Inc stats

Ult clearly didn't get enough inc
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Re: R64 Inc stats

RainbowS give ct a hard round lol
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Re: R64 Inc stats

Its not all the round though.
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Re: R64 Inc stats

Its a good view of the triangular war of the endgame; starting as it does the first day P3n did those rolling lolwaves on 7.4 in the afternoon/evening. The first of those landed on Aga pt 918.
P3n clearly was benefiting to some extent from having lost all its roids by then, even if it didnt feel like it!
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Re: R64 Inc stats

I am surprised at the number of incs bows got but otherwise pretty much as expected imo. Were they in a war with CT and ND?

p.s. any idea when the official ones for the whole round will be up? I thought appoco said Saturday in the EORC
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I am surprised at the number of incs bows got but otherwise pretty much as expected imo. Were they in a war with CT and ND?

p.s. any idea when the official ones for the whole round will be up? I thought appoco said Saturday in the EORC
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Re: R64 Inc stats

Someone in my galaxy channel was also wondering where the EoRC logs were take it they will be up at some point today
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Re: R64 Inc stats

yes, bows were targeting us and asked for fl help so we hit them hard for the last week.
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yes, bows were targeting us and asked for fl help so we hit them hard for the last week.
The normal "ND + 1" block going for BowS for trolls
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Bows did a good job pissing eveyone off in the end and returned to their standard round ranking. It was all going so well too...
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Bows did a good job pissing eveyone off in the end and returned to their standard round ranking. It was all going so well too...
Yeah im sure our choices in the start of the round made sure our options would be limited in the end of the round
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Re: R64 Inc stats

Ult Average 80 inc each member - 68% inc recall - Attack average 30 - Defence average 65
FL Average 53 inc each member - 57% inc recall - Attack average 40 - Defence average 39
p3ng Average 60 inc each member - 56% inc recall - Attack average 51 - Defence average 41
BF Average 44 inc each member - 51% inc recall - Attack average 35 - Defence average 26
CT Average 41 inc each member - 50% inc recall - Attack average 45 - Defence average 40
BowS Average 46 inc each member - 58% inc recall - Attack average 33 - Defence average 54
Åsgard Average 36 inc each member - 39% inc recall - Attack average 46 - Defence average 32
HR Average 40 inc each member - 39% inc recall - Attack average 36 - Defence average 33
ND Average 33 inc each member - 36% inc recall - Attack average 50 - Defence average 27
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Re: R64 Inc stats

http://beta.planetarion.com/history/...?id=6&round=64
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Re: R64 Inc stats

Nothing very surprising in the stats as far as I can see.
However it does provide an opportunity to finally lay to rest this argument tho.
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Perhaps BF/FL are aspiring to go top tier as they are defending.
From what ive seen in this thread by p3ng members they sound like a one trick pony, fence and attack.
Our one trick pony beat BF in def and was similar to FL in % terms while sending more.
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Ult Average 80 inc each member - 68% inc recall - Attack average 30 - Defence average 65
FL Average 53 inc each member - 57% inc recall - Attack average 40 - Defence average 39
p3ng Average 60 inc each member - 56% inc recall - Attack average 51 - Defence average 41
BF Average 44 inc each member - 51% inc recall - Attack average 35 - Defence average 26
Oh and our attacks were most by a distance, giving p3n a higher total fleet activity than ult if ingal def is excluded. (which im not sure is the right way to do it or not, someone answer my question at the bottom then i'll know!)
Ult's defence is obviously exceptional.
Its ingal defence was more than 60% higher than anyone else, so can someone explain, is that ingal from ults ingal or is that only non ults ingal?
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Re: R64 Inc stats

The following is based on data about fleet launches provided by the PA team.

This is divided into two parts:
  • First part: alliance = alliance at end of round, all fleets counted - even these that would land after the final tick
  • Second part: alliance = alliance at launch time, only fleets counted which landed on or before the final tick

The numbers however are not an exact match with the data on the history site..
But the history site does not really match with itself:
For example:
  • Alliance stats for Ultores: Total incomings: 4795 (Real incs: 4776, Fake incs: 19)
  • Planet stats for all Ultores planets: 4741 -> a difference of 54 fleets
  • Based on fleet data provided to me: 4685 -> a difference of 110 / 56 fleets

And additionally: the data I received from PA does not appear to match with the data from universe N scans..
  • Universe N scans for Ultores: last 11 days: 1464 incomings
  • PA Fleet data: last 11 days for Ultores: 1446 incomings -> a difference of 20 fleets

I'm still investigating where the difference could be coming from.. hopefully PA team finds the time to look at it as well..

In all cases:
  • the rows represent the number of incs an alliance received
  • the columns represent the number of hostile fleets an alliance launched


This has also been posted on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=8fQcxfyA


First part, alliance at end of round, all fleets

Code:
Day 0 - 49: 1 - 1175: 1175 ticks

| To \ From    | Ult   | Face  | p3n   | BF    | CT    | RB    | AG    | HR    | ND    | FC    | PATSA | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| Ultores      |     4 |   399 |   957 |   635 |   905 |   102 |   546 |    85 |   644 |     4 |       |   406 |  4687 |
| Faceless     |   400 |    31 |   886 |   413 |   292 |    53 |    91 |    94 |   357 |    20 |     1 |   345 |  2983 |
| p3nguins     |   677 |   665 |     7 |   116 |   235 |   473 |   231 |   663 |     1 |   218 |       |   263 |  3549 |
| Black Flag   |   264 |   495 |    77 |     1 |   192 |   172 |   261 |   321 |   379 |    35 |       |   217 |  2414 |
| Conspiracy   |   334 |   221 |   129 |    87 |     3 |   685 |   225 |   259 |    10 |    35 |       |   256 |  2244 |
| RainbowS     |   117 |    54 |   454 |   103 |   731 |    11 |   204 |    79 |   587 |    58 |       |   240 |  2638 |
| Åsgard       |   150 |    25 |   119 |   182 |   239 |   109 |     5 |   154 |   212 |    29 |       |   161 |  1385 |
| Howling Rain |   116 |    90 |   406 |   278 |   240 |   114 |   201 |    19 |   172 |    17 |       |   296 |  1949 |
| NewDawn      |   179 |   281 |     3 |   219 |     8 |   334 |   211 |    63 |     7 |    47 |       |   237 |  1589 |
| FIGHTCLUB    |     3 |     6 |   101 |    58 |    53 |    35 |    12 |     7 |    34 |       |       |    22 |   331 |
| PATSA        |     6 |    18 |     6 |    10 |     2 |    13 |     3 |     5 |     5 |     1 |       |    25 |    94 |
| Other        |   440 |   583 |   457 |   391 |   309 |   487 |   315 |   474 |   435 |    66 |       |   874 |  4831 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|        Total |  2690 |  2868 |  3602 |  2493 |  3209 |  2588 |  2305 |  2223 |  2843 |   530 |     1 |  3342 | 28694 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
\ row = fleets *to* that alliance
\ column = fleets *from* that alliance

Second part, alliance at launch time, fleets landing during the round


Full round: Day 0 - 49: 1 - 1175: 1175 ticks
Code:
| To \ From    | Ult   | Face  | p3n   | BF    | CT    | RB    | AG    | HR    | ND    | FC    | PATSA | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| Ultores      |       |   368 |   980 |   652 |   965 |    98 |   561 |    71 |   724 |     4 |       |   340 |  4763 |
| Faceless     |   412 |       |   867 |   330 |   247 |    24 |    64 |     8 |   268 |    18 |     1 |   261 |  2500 |
| p3nguins     |   693 |   604 |       |    89 |   257 |   464 |   358 |   680 |       |   208 |       |   222 |  3575 |
| Black Flag   |   275 |   421 |    73 |       |   190 |   166 |   342 |   316 |   396 |    35 |       |   202 |  2416 |
| Conspiracy   |   367 |   147 |   155 |    78 |       |   717 |   310 |   259 |     9 |    34 |       |   273 |  2349 |
| RainbowS     |   117 |    13 |   457 |    84 |   720 |       |   233 |    71 |   607 |    68 |       |   190 |  2560 |
| Åsgard       |   164 |    19 |   185 |   271 |   290 |   117 |       |   207 |   361 |    31 |       |   205 |  1850 |
| Howling Rain |   123 |    14 |   430 |   268 |   243 |   102 |   270 |       |   163 |    17 |       |   257 |  1887 |
| NewDawn      |   204 |   246 |       |   242 |     2 |   374 |   338 |    57 |       |    48 |       |   290 |  1801 |
| FIGHTCLUB    |     2 |     8 |   106 |    57 |    53 |    35 |    16 |    10 |    37 |       |       |     9 |   333 |
| PATSA        |     3 |     3 |     6 |     8 |     2 |    13 |    18 |     4 |     3 |     1 |       |    31 |    92 |
| Other        |   357 |   405 |   445 |   348 |   292 |   364 |   423 |   480 |   439 |    40 |       |   957 |  4550 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|        Total |  2717 |  2248 |  3704 |  2427 |  3261 |  2474 |  2933 |  2163 |  3007 |   504 |     1 |  3237 | 28676 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
\ row = fleets *to* that alliance
\ column = fleets *from* that alliance
Top 10 hostile days:
Code:
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| Ultores      |   263 |   260 |   234 |   229 |   220 |   213 |   207 |   195 |   192 |   188 || 46.21% |
| Faceless     |   238 |   205 |   171 |   130 |   130 |   113 |    97 |    97 |    77 |    64 || 52.88% |
| p3nguins     |   273 |   263 |   234 |   140 |   136 |   120 |   117 |   115 |   110 |    94 || 44.81% |
| Black Flag   |   205 |   134 |   127 |   114 |   111 |    98 |    97 |    94 |    87 |    82 || 47.56% |
| Conspiracy   |   137 |   125 |   101 |    85 |    83 |    82 |    82 |    77 |    74 |    74 || 39.17% |
| RainbowS     |   193 |   136 |   110 |   105 |   103 |    96 |    88 |    84 |    81 |    79 || 41.99% |
| Åsgard       |   122 |   116 |   106 |    95 |    90 |    84 |    70 |    66 |    60 |    60 || 46.97% |
| Howling Rain |   124 |    88 |    88 |    81 |    72 |    72 |    61 |    60 |    57 |    57 || 40.28% |
| NewDawn      |    84 |    78 |    73 |    69 |    62 |    61 |    59 |    58 |    56 |    56 || 36.42% |
| FIGHTCLUB    |    29 |    26 |    24 |    21 |    20 |    20 |    19 |    17 |    16 |    15 || 62.16% |
| PATSA        |     7 |     7 |     6 |     5 |     5 |     4 |     4 |     4 |     3 |     3 || 52.17% |
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Most hostile fleets from:
Code:
| To           | From         | From         |
----------------------------------------------
| Ultores      | p3nguins     | Conspiracy   |
| Faceless     | p3nguins     | Ultores      |
| p3nguins     | Ultores      | Howling Rain |
| Black Flag   | Faceless     | NewDawn      |
| Conspiracy   | RainbowS     | Ultores      |
| RainbowS     | Conspiracy   | NewDawn      |
| Åsgard       | NewDawn      | Conspiracy   |
| Howling Rain | p3nguins     | Åsgard       |
| NewDawn      | RainbowS     | Åsgard       |
| FIGHTCLUB    | p3nguins     | Black Flag   |
| PATSA        | Other        | Åsgard       |
----------------------------------------------
Incs per day:
Code:
| Day | From |  To  |  #  || Ult   | Face  | p3n   | BF    | CT    | RB    | AG    | HR    | ND    | FC    | PATSA | Other | Total |
|-----|------|------|-----||-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|   0 |    1 |    4 |   4 ||       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |
|   1 |    5 |   28 |  24 ||       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |
|   2 |   29 |   52 |  24 ||    33 |    25 |    29 |    47 |    31 |    31 |    37 |    33 |    43 |     3 |     4 |   245 |   561 |
|   3 |   53 |   76 |  24 ||    43 |    49 |    58 |    51 |    74 |    26 |    60 |    32 |    49 |    16 |     2 |   164 |   624 |
|   4 |   77 |  100 |  24 ||    43 |    36 |    45 |    97 |    74 |    30 |    41 |    72 |    37 |       |     4 |   141 |   620 |
|   5 |  101 |  124 |  24 ||    52 |    77 |    67 |    49 |    49 |    29 |    48 |    72 |    33 |     5 |     1 |   158 |   640 |
|   6 |  125 |  148 |  24 ||    63 |    29 |    43 |   114 |    70 |    31 |    90 |    28 |    58 |     2 |     3 |    72 |   603 |
|   7 |  149 |  172 |  24 ||    70 |    64 |    61 |    28 |    82 |    40 |   122 |    22 |    35 |     4 |     2 |   114 |   644 |
|   8 |  173 |  196 |  24 ||    36 |    60 |    76 |    38 |    35 |    53 |    48 |   124 |    62 |     5 |     5 |   130 |   672 |
|   9 |  197 |  220 |  24 ||    45 |    30 |    90 |    55 |    77 |    69 |    70 |    35 |    59 |     1 |     6 |   138 |   675 |
|  10 |  221 |  244 |  24 ||    68 |    25 |   117 |    49 |    42 |    47 |    49 |    41 |    84 |    10 |     2 |   152 |   686 |
|  11 |  245 |  266 |  22 ||    84 |    43 |    83 |    17 |   137 |    88 |    30 |    23 |    73 |     2 |     2 |    88 |   670 |
|  12 |  267 |  290 |  24 ||    41 |    97 |    34 |    34 |    83 |    63 |    84 |    88 |    55 |    24 |     1 |   104 |   708 |
|  13 |  291 |  314 |  24 ||    46 |    63 |    91 |    40 |    64 |    62 |   106 |    47 |    38 |     7 |     1 |   137 |   702 |
|  14 |  315 |  338 |  24 ||    57 |   130 |    46 |    21 |    69 |    57 |    43 |    42 |    78 |     5 |     7 |   150 |   705 |
|  15 |  339 |  362 |  24 ||    63 |    36 |    55 |    50 |   125 |    56 |    49 |    61 |    27 |     4 |     3 |    75 |   604 |
|  16 |  363 |  386 |  24 ||    88 |    36 |    79 |    45 |    66 |    69 |    66 |    45 |    25 |       |     7 |   121 |   647 |
|  17 |  387 |  410 |  24 ||    78 |    31 |    23 |    94 |    82 |    29 |    95 |    37 |    35 |     6 |     5 |    73 |   588 |
|  18 |  411 |  434 |  24 ||   154 |    26 |    79 |    57 |    70 |    28 |    60 |    15 |    26 |     1 |     1 |    56 |   573 |
|  19 |  435 |  458 |  24 ||   207 |    19 |    53 |    67 |    25 |    12 |    57 |    19 |    33 |     1 |     1 |   108 |   602 |
|  20 |  459 |  482 |  24 ||   185 |    27 |    42 |    37 |    42 |    24 |    24 |    39 |    18 |     5 |     2 |   113 |   558 |
|  21 |  483 |  506 |  24 ||   124 |    34 |    33 |    35 |    60 |    32 |    29 |    45 |    39 |     8 |     2 |   118 |   559 |
|  22 |  507 |  530 |  24 ||     7 |    50 |    94 |    17 |    18 |   136 |    17 |    81 |    35 |       |     2 |   103 |   560 |
|  23 |  531 |  554 |  24 ||    13 |    40 |    51 |    39 |   101 |    17 |   116 |    42 |    61 |    15 |       |    88 |   583 |
|  24 |  555 |  578 |  24 ||    90 |    24 |    35 |    17 |    57 |    65 |    35 |    28 |    45 |    29 |     1 |   149 |   575 |
|  25 |  579 |  602 |  24 ||   213 |    13 |    66 |     6 |    27 |    30 |    16 |    28 |    32 |    20 |     2 |   148 |   601 |
|  26 |  603 |  626 |  24 ||   260 |    26 |   110 |     7 |    11 |    21 |    42 |    15 |    18 |    10 |     2 |   108 |   630 |
|  27 |  627 |  650 |  24 ||   234 |     4 |    38 |    13 |    25 |    30 |     5 |    36 |    24 |    19 |       |    95 |   523 |
|  28 |  651 |  674 |  24 ||   195 |     2 |    32 |   134 |     6 |    49 |    13 |    31 |    22 |    21 |     3 |    85 |   593 |
|  29 |  675 |  698 |  24 ||   129 |     4 |    25 |   205 |    10 |    81 |     2 |    57 |    11 |    17 |       |    46 |   587 |
|  30 |  699 |  722 |  24 ||   188 |    16 |    30 |    98 |     3 |    29 |     3 |    48 |    24 |       |     2 |   117 |   558 |
|  31 |  723 |  746 |  24 ||    95 |   130 |    15 |    87 |     8 |    67 |    11 |    20 |    17 |     2 |     2 |    82 |   536 |
|  32 |  747 |  770 |  24 ||   127 |    97 |    38 |   111 |     5 |    50 |    29 |    16 |    11 |     8 |     3 |    90 |   585 |
|  33 |  771 |  794 |  24 ||     9 |   113 |   273 |    45 |    21 |    14 |    11 |    42 |    54 |     1 |       |    74 |   657 |
|  34 |  795 |  818 |  24 ||    67 |    35 |   263 |    82 |    53 |    13 |     3 |    13 |    48 |     7 |     4 |    74 |   662 |
|  35 |  819 |  842 |  24 ||    61 |    17 |   234 |    76 |    21 |    79 |     2 |    19 |    42 |       |     3 |    50 |   604 |
|  36 |  843 |  866 |  24 ||    24 |    45 |   136 |    18 |    65 |   105 |    20 |    25 |    56 |     1 |     1 |    80 |   576 |
|  37 |  867 |  890 |  24 ||    13 |    10 |   140 |    32 |    62 |    96 |    28 |    31 |    56 |     8 |       |    50 |   526 |
|  38 |  891 |  914 |  24 ||    12 |    36 |   115 |    74 |    85 |    34 |     8 |    88 |    52 |    20 |       |    51 |   575 |
|  39 |  915 |  938 |  24 ||   116 |    43 |    86 |     6 |    34 |    59 |    17 |    40 |    69 |     2 |       |    48 |   520 |
|  40 |  939 |  962 |  24 ||   109 |    35 |   120 |    23 |    45 |    10 |    27 |    60 |    34 |     2 |       |    98 |   563 |
|  41 |  963 |  986 |  24 ||   229 |    16 |    26 |     9 |    32 |    84 |    40 |    57 |     5 |     2 |       |    40 |   540 |
|  42 |  987 | 1010 |  24 ||   263 |    52 |    87 |    41 |     8 |    20 |    14 |     9 |    16 |     4 |       |    53 |   567 |
|  43 | 1011 | 1034 |  24 ||   220 |    16 |    48 |    12 |    46 |    42 |    56 |    22 |    33 |     2 |       |    31 |   528 |
|  44 | 1035 | 1058 |  24 ||   192 |    23 |    18 |     9 |    71 |    24 |     9 |    42 |    21 |     3 |     3 |    59 |   474 |
|  45 | 1059 | 1082 |  24 ||    14 |   238 |    81 |    19 |    21 |    66 |     3 |    37 |    14 |     4 |       |    54 |   551 |
|  46 | 1083 | 1106 |  24 ||    40 |   205 |    29 |    41 |    57 |    57 |    22 |    25 |    18 |     1 |       |    44 |   539 |
|  47 | 1107 | 1130 |  24 ||   129 |   171 |    75 |     6 |     7 |   103 |    14 |     9 |    34 |       |       |    53 |   601 |
|  48 | 1131 | 1154 |  24 ||   122 |    44 |    21 |    37 |    63 |   110 |    37 |    23 |    26 |    26 |     1 |    87 |   597 |
|  49 | 1155 | 1175 |  21 ||    12 |    58 |    85 |   127 |    30 |   193 |    42 |    23 |    16 |       |     2 |    36 |   624 |
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|                   Total ||  4763 |  2500 |  3575 |  2416 |  2349 |  2560 |  1850 |  1887 |  1801 |   333 |    92 |  4550 | 28676 |
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Most hostile fleets to:
Code:
| To \ From    | Ult   | Face  | p3n   | BF    | CT    | RB    | AG    | HR    | ND    | FC    | PATSA | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| 7:4:3        |       |    75 |   111 |    20 |    30 |    10 |   180 |     1 |     3 |     1 |       |    10 |   441 |
| 7:4:1        |       |     4 |    91 |    22 |    15 |    17 |    60 |       |    10 |       |       |     3 |   222 |
| 6:8:3        |   121 |    17 |       |     1 |    12 |     2 |    25 |     7 |       |    18 |       |    12 |   215 |
| 8:1:7        |    71 |       |    74 |    10 |     2 |    10 |       |     2 |    14 |    18 |       |    13 |   214 |
| 3:2:1        |       |     7 |    82 |     7 |    45 |     1 |     7 |       |    46 |     1 |       |    10 |   206 |
| 4:9:7        |     5 |       |    41 |     1 |    52 |       |    32 |       |    16 |       |       |     7 |   154 |
| 6:7:4        |    45 |     1 |     8 |    35 |    16 |     8 |       |     5 |     8 |    20 |       |     1 |   147 |
| 1:8:9        |    13 |    44 |       |     3 |    24 |     7 |    19 |     9 |       |     8 |       |    19 |   146 |
| 5:7:5        |       |     1 |    66 |    18 |    42 |     1 |     1 |     3 |    10 |       |       |     2 |   144 |
| 2:2:9        |    11 |    19 |       |     8 |     5 |    14 |    10 |    47 |       |    20 |       |     6 |   140 |
| 2:8:5        |       |    15 |    49 |    11 |    23 |       |    13 |     1 |    21 |     1 |       |     5 |   139 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|



Incs to top 10 planets
Code:
| To \ From    | Ult   | Face  | p3n   | BF    | CT    | RB    | AG    | HR    | ND    | FC    | PATSA | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| 8:1:7        |    71 |       |    74 |    10 |     2 |    10 |       |     2 |    14 |    18 |       |    13 |   214 |
| 7:4:3        |       |    75 |   111 |    20 |    30 |    10 |   180 |     1 |     3 |     1 |       |    10 |   441 |
| 6:8:3        |   121 |    17 |       |     1 |    12 |     2 |    25 |     7 |       |    18 |       |    12 |   215 |
| 6:7:4        |    45 |     1 |     8 |    35 |    16 |     8 |       |     5 |     8 |    20 |       |     1 |   147 |
| 4:9:7        |     5 |       |    41 |     1 |    52 |       |    32 |       |    16 |       |       |     7 |   154 |
| 6:7:1        |    15 |       |    32 |     1 |     1 |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |    16 |    66 |
| 8:8:6        |    15 |     2 |     5 |       |     1 |    18 |    10 |     3 |    19 |       |       |    26 |    99 |
| 8:1:2        |    54 |     1 |    34 |     9 |     1 |     2 |    13 |    11 |     9 |       |       |     5 |   139 |
| 3:2:1        |       |     7 |    82 |     7 |    45 |     1 |     7 |       |    46 |     1 |       |    10 |   206 |
| 4:2:7        |     7 |     6 |       |       |     5 |    13 |     8 |    36 |       |       |       |    17 |    92 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|

Incs to top 5 galaxies
Code:
| To \ From    | Ult   | Face  | p3n   | BF    | CT    | RB    | AG    | HR    | ND    | FC    | PATSA | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| 6:8          |   288 |    73 |    11 |    12 |   113 |    15 |   118 |    75 |    64 |    53 |       |    31 |   853 |
| 7:4          |    13 |   157 |   260 |   181 |    72 |    55 |   367 |    14 |    28 |     1 |       |    39 |  1187 |
| 6:7          |    88 |   110 |   114 |    99 |   216 |    42 |    61 |    45 |    72 |    20 |       |    39 |   906 |
| 3:2          |    25 |    11 |   237 |    32 |   163 |    13 |    21 |    10 |   182 |     3 |       |    60 |   757 |
| 4:9          |    33 |    20 |    78 |    12 |   153 |     6 |    73 |    20 |    54 |     7 |       |    47 |   503 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|



Stats for the first half of the round: Day 0 - 25: 1 - 602: 602 ticks
Code:
| To \ From    | Ult   | Face  | p3n   | BF    | CT    | RB    | AG    | HR    | ND    | FC    | PATSA | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| Ultores      |       |    18 |   289 |   241 |   561 |    88 |    30 |    70 |   388 |       |       |   218 |  1903 |
| Faceless     |    17 |       |   445 |   119 |   105 |    24 |    64 |     8 |   142 |       |     1 |   139 |  1064 |
| p3nguins     |    86 |   289 |       |    89 |   187 |   139 |   273 |   205 |       |    75 |       |   107 |  1450 |
| Black Flag   |   141 |   119 |    72 |       |    18 |    54 |   303 |   175 |   100 |    16 |       |   106 |  1104 |
| Conspiracy   |   358 |    83 |   153 |    10 |       |   326 |   310 |    88 |     9 |    30 |       |   193 |  1560 |
| RainbowS     |   112 |    13 |   151 |    33 |   289 |       |   104 |    71 |   217 |    52 |       |    82 |  1124 |
| Åsgard       |    14 |    11 |   129 |   241 |   290 |    66 |       |   165 |   286 |    10 |       |   180 |  1392 |
| Howling Rain |   123 |    14 |   189 |   244 |    86 |    95 |   169 |       |    50 |     6 |       |   123 |  1099 |
| NewDawn      |   184 |   144 |       |    59 |     2 |   194 |   277 |    20 |       |    45 |       |   155 |  1080 |
| FIGHTCLUB    |     2 |       |    18 |    22 |    45 |    27 |     9 |     7 |    36 |       |       |     7 |   173 |
| PATSA        |     3 |     2 |     3 |     7 |     2 |     5 |    18 |     4 |     3 |     1 |       |    18 |    66 |
| Other        |   305 |   255 |   340 |   176 |   219 |   182 |   338 |   251 |   288 |    33 |       |   558 |  2945 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|        Total |  1345 |   948 |  1789 |  1241 |  1804 |  1200 |  1895 |  1064 |  1519 |   268 |     1 |  1886 | 14960 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
\ row = fleets *to* that alliance
\ column = fleets *from* that alliance

Stats for the second half of the round: Day 26 - 49: 603 - 1175: 573 ticks
Code:
| To \ From    | Ult   | Face  | p3n   | BF    | CT    | RB    | AG    | HR    | ND    | FC    | PATSA | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| Ultores      |       |   350 |   691 |   411 |   404 |    10 |   531 |     1 |   336 |     4 |       |   122 |  2860 |
| Faceless     |   395 |       |   422 |   211 |   142 |       |       |       |   126 |    18 |       |   122 |  1436 |
| p3nguins     |   607 |   315 |       |       |    70 |   325 |    85 |   475 |       |   133 |       |   115 |  2125 |
| Black Flag   |   134 |   302 |     1 |       |   172 |   112 |    39 |   141 |   296 |    19 |       |    96 |  1312 |
| Conspiracy   |     9 |    64 |     2 |    68 |       |   391 |       |   171 |       |     4 |       |    80 |   789 |
| RainbowS     |     5 |       |   306 |    51 |   431 |       |   129 |       |   390 |    16 |       |   108 |  1436 |
| Åsgard       |   150 |     8 |    56 |    30 |       |    51 |       |    42 |    75 |    21 |       |    25 |   458 |
| Howling Rain |       |       |   241 |    24 |   157 |     7 |   101 |       |   113 |    11 |       |   134 |   788 |
| NewDawn      |    20 |   102 |       |   183 |       |   180 |    61 |    37 |       |     3 |       |   135 |   721 |
| FIGHTCLUB    |       |     8 |    88 |    35 |     8 |     8 |     7 |     3 |     1 |       |       |     2 |   160 |
| PATSA        |       |     1 |     3 |     1 |       |     8 |       |       |       |       |       |    13 |    26 |
| Other        |    52 |   150 |   105 |   172 |    73 |   182 |    85 |   229 |   151 |     7 |       |   399 |  1605 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|        Total |  1372 |  1300 |  1915 |  1186 |  1457 |  1274 |  1038 |  1099 |  1488 |   236 |       |  1351 | 13716 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
\ row = fleets *to* that alliance
\ column = fleets *from* that alliance

If anyone wants these stats for a particular tick period then feel free to PM me..
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Re: R64 Inc stats

Ult had 1kish from ingal non-ults. Numbers from ingame intel
Thats more than CT/BowS combined got from other allies.
Im sure p3ng mightve gottrn similiar numbers from other allies, but Ult had more forts
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Re: R64 Inc stats

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Originally Posted by Bram View Post
I'm still investigating where the difference could be coming from.. hopefully PA team finds the time to look at it as well..
One first difference appears to be fleets from planets that are now deleted.. It appears these are not in the fleet data I received from the PA team..


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Ult's defence is obviously exceptional.
Its ingal defence was more than 60% higher than anyone else, so can someone explain, is that ingal from ults ingal or is that only non ults ingal?
Defence stats:
Day 0 - 49: 1 - 1175: 1175 ticks
Code:
| To \ From    | Ult   | Face  | p3n   | BF    | CT    | RB    | AG    | HR    | ND    | FC    | PATSA | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| Ultores      |  4167 |   125 |   107 |    31 |    33 |   105 |   112 |    40 |    17 |    48 |       |   269 |  5054 |
| Faceless     |    67 |  2077 |    35 |    25 |    40 |    52 |    90 |    52 |    18 |     2 |       |   106 |  2564 |
| p3nguins     |    79 |    34 |  2681 |   127 |    82 |    79 |   112 |    67 |    19 |     3 |       |   174 |  3457 |
| Black Flag   |    29 |    15 |   111 |  1696 |    41 |    48 |    60 |    35 |    34 |     1 |       |    75 |  2145 |
| Conspiracy   |    11 |    52 |    15 |    43 |  2311 |    20 |   102 |    25 |    56 |       |       |   139 |  2774 |
| RainbowS     |    76 |    56 |    25 |    48 |    24 |  3067 |    44 |    39 |    10 |     9 |       |   148 |  3546 |
| Åsgard       |    55 |    59 |    87 |    50 |    52 |    43 |  1182 |    18 |     8 |    11 |       |    65 |  1630 |
| Howling Rain |    22 |    40 |    52 |    32 |    26 |    29 |    61 |  1553 |    64 |       |       |    88 |  1967 |
| NewDawn      |    28 |    38 |    15 |    20 |    68 |    14 |    15 |    35 |  1380 |     3 |       |   161 |  1777 |
| FIGHTCLUB    |    57 |     1 |     5 |     4 |       |    10 |     3 |     2 |       |    63 |       |    14 |   159 |
| PATSA        |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    20 |       |    20 |
| Other        |   166 |    97 |   136 |    72 |   109 |   128 |   102 |    90 |    64 |    31 |     1 |   631 |  1627 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|        Total |  4757 |  2594 |  3269 |  2148 |  2786 |  3595 |  1883 |  1956 |  1670 |   171 |    21 |  1870 | 26720 |
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| To \ From    | Ult   | Face  | p3n   | BF    | CT    | RB    | AG    | HR    | ND    | FC    | PATSA | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| Ultores      |   852 |   125 |   107 |    31 |    33 |   103 |   112 |    40 |    17 |    35 |       |   269 |  1724 |
| Faceless     |    44 |   324 |    35 |    25 |    40 |    48 |    87 |    52 |    18 |     2 |       |   106 |   781 |
| p3nguins     |    79 |    34 |   284 |   127 |    82 |    79 |   112 |    67 |    19 |     3 |       |   174 |  1060 |
| Black Flag   |    29 |    15 |   111 |   311 |    41 |    48 |    60 |    35 |    34 |     1 |       |    75 |   760 |
| Conspiracy   |    11 |    52 |    15 |    43 |   494 |    20 |   100 |    25 |    56 |       |       |   138 |   954 |
| RainbowS     |    63 |    48 |    25 |    48 |    24 |   542 |    44 |    36 |    10 |     9 |       |   148 |   997 |
| Åsgard       |    55 |    35 |    87 |    50 |    50 |    43 |   362 |    18 |     8 |    11 |       |    65 |   784 |
| Howling Rain |    22 |    39 |    52 |    32 |    26 |    29 |    61 |   262 |    64 |       |       |    88 |   675 |
| NewDawn      |    28 |    38 |    15 |    20 |    67 |    14 |    15 |    35 |   167 |     3 |       |   161 |   563 |
| FIGHTCLUB    |    57 |     1 |     5 |     4 |       |    10 |     3 |     2 |       |    32 |       |    14 |   128 |
| PATSA        |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    20 |       |    20 |
| Other        |   164 |    95 |   135 |    71 |   109 |   128 |   102 |    86 |    63 |    31 |     1 |   438 |  1423 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|        Total |  1404 |   806 |   871 |   762 |   966 |  1064 |  1058 |   658 |   456 |   127 |    21 |  1676 |  9869 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
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| To \ From    | Ult   | Face  | p3n   | BF    | CT    | RB    | AG    | HR    | ND    | FC    | PATSA | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| Ultores      |  3315 |       |       |       |       |     2 |       |       |       |    13 |       |       |  3330 |
| Faceless     |    23 |  1753 |       |       |       |     4 |     3 |       |       |       |       |       |  1783 |
| p3nguins     |       |       |  2397 |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |  2397 |
| Black Flag   |       |       |       |  1385 |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |  1385 |
| Conspiracy   |       |       |       |       |  1817 |       |     2 |       |       |       |       |     1 |  1820 |
| RainbowS     |    13 |     8 |       |       |       |  2525 |       |     3 |       |       |       |       |  2549 |
| Åsgard       |       |    24 |       |       |     2 |       |   820 |       |       |       |       |       |   846 |
| Howling Rain |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |       |  1291 |       |       |       |       |  1292 |
| NewDawn      |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |  1213 |       |       |       |  1214 |
| FIGHTCLUB    |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    31 |       |       |    31 |
| PATSA        |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |
| Other        |     2 |     2 |     1 |     1 |       |       |       |     4 |     1 |       |       |   193 |   204 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|        Total |  3353 |  1788 |  2398 |  1386 |  1820 |  2531 |   825 |  1298 |  1214 |    44 |       |   194 | 16851 |
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That answers my question thanks!
So the Gal defence on the PA history does include your own alliance ingal, however interestingly Ult was still ahead in exploiting the non-ults ingal with p3n next. The reason for p3n having a high figure is obvious - well scattered through the universe no more than 3 p3n per gal means more non p3n available for def. Ults' high figure must come solely from having most incs to defend against and so most opportunities for useful ingal def!
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Well its one of the reasons wich does put Ult ahead of all other allies, members DCing their own incs ingal.
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Well its one of the reasons wich does put Ult ahead of all other allies, members DCing their own incs ingal.
Im not wholly convinced by that. I think a lot more people will DC their own incs ingal than will DC at alliance level. Even if only because they have a, more time, and b, it is usually at a more civilized hour. Most people gal DC over breakfast.
The cynic would say a lot of ult ingal def is 'other' or Fightclub. (yes before you say it, that is an argument for bigger tags )
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Im not wholly convinced by that. I think a lot more people will DC their own incs ingal than will DC at alliance level. Even if only because they have a, more time, and b, it is usually at a more civilized hour. Most people gal DC over breakfast.
The cynic would say a lot of ult ingal def is 'other' or Fightclub. (yes before you say it, that is an argument for bigger tags )
Khm...

Intel 5:7 - Score (8) Value (9) Size (19) - #1 firebird [Ult] - #2 Winy [Ult] - #3 legacy [Ult] - #4 ragna [p3n] - #5 darkkon [Ult] - #6 Suicida [Ult] - #7 Crowley [Ult] - #8 [Fac] - #9 WillyNilly [Fac] - #10 chimpie [Ult]

Intel 2:8 - Score (15) Value (16) Size (25) - #1 star_trek [Ult] - #2 joseph [Ult] - #3 Car [Ult] - #5 _tche_ [Ult] - #6 ebo [p3n] - #7 crismt [Ult] - #8 [Fac] - #9 theodd [Asg]

Intel 5:2 - Score (35) Value (35) Size (37) - #1 Noob [Ult] - #2 elevator [Ult] - #3 Ramp [p3n] - #4 chancellor [Ult] - #5 keara [Ult] - #6 Golliwog_vuLgAr [Ult] - #8 Shine [p3n] - #9 Buckets [How] - #11 [FIG]

Intel 7:4 - Score (2) Value (2) Size (11) - #1 DeeJay [Ult] - #2 steel [Rai] - #3 agar3s [Ult] - #4 lrgcow [Ult] - #5 LordCaos [Fac] - #6 darts [Ult] - #7 jumper [Ult] - #8 GuPPie - #9 Plunt [p3n] - #10 Cousin [Ult] - #11 zubzero

Intel 6:5 - Score (58) Value (56) Size (65) - #1 Fruit [FIG] - #2 Spammer [Ult] - #3 [FIG] - #4 gzambo [FIG] - #5 [FIG] - #7 [New] - #8 migz [FIG] - #9 rUl3r [Ult] - #11 [Ete]

Intel 2:2 - Score (14) Value (17) Size (27) - #1 signs [Ult] - #2 BlackPearl [Fac] - #3 Uly [Rai] - #4 xerx [Bla] - #5 Dogg [p3n] - #6 Berten [Ult] - #7 talisman [Ult] - #8 mystic [Con] - #9 sad [p3n] - #10 Hunter [Ult]

Intel 3:3 - Score (26) Value (26) Size (22) - #1 sneak [Ult] - #2 BestFriend [Rai] - #3 Delgado [Ult] - #4 AdvantiX [Asg] - #5 NastyNick [Ult] - #6 Hut [Rai] - #8 master^wizard [Ult] - #10 HappyDrugs [COB]

So unless they sent Spammer 1234231423 def fleets I have no idea where you got that from.
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Khm...
So unless they sent Spammer 1234231423 def fleets I have no idea where you got that from.
errr its right there in the data Bram posted!
269 other 35 FC. Not huge given the totals. But not insignificant either.
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Another way of looking at it: FIghtclub defended Ultores almost as much as Fightclub defended themselves.
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Another way of looking at it: FIghtclub defended Ultores almost as much as Fightclub defended themselves.
This is not actually surprising, since only an idiot would hit FC with FI/CO which they would be good at defending. Most of their incs will have been CR/BS which they would have little to send even if they wanted to.
OTOH Ult got lots of p3n CO incs, the perfect target for an FC defence fleet, if they could be bothered.

What I was really getting at was that it only needs couple of those 'others' to actually be out of tag ults for ult's success in gathering non ult ingal def to be explained despite having few non ults ingal (as hunter helpfully demonstrated).
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This is not actually surprising, since only an idiot would hit FC with FI/CO which they would be good at defending.
Far more likely is that FC just didn't bother defending. Which makes it all the more interesting that they apparently did bother for Ultores. Or rather, the Ultores planets ingal, which is an imporant distinction.
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Or rather, the Ultores planets ingal, which is an imporant distinction.
So it shows they were happy to def ult but not anyone else... but not happy to wake up in the middle of the night so only defended ingal. Eminently sensible!
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Im not wholly convinced by that. I think a lot more people will DC their own incs ingal than will DC at alliance level. Even if only because they have a, more time, and b, it is usually at a more civilized hour. Most people gal DC over breakfast.
The cynic would say a lot of ult ingal def is 'other' or Fightclub. (yes before you say it, that is an argument for bigger tags )
Well theres the paradox no?
Ult going for forts means they are more likely than p3ng to be able to DC most waves at "civilized" hours(when they get up in the morning).
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I dont see any difference there or an explanation.
BB, I think me and you are perhaps talking at cross purposes here.
So allow me to restate the question.
The issue in question is that Ult managed to get 872 non-ult ingal def fleets. P3n only managed 776 ingal non-p3n defence despite their spread being so much wider that they would have access to a pool of non-p3n defence that was probably double what ult could access ingal.
So the question is why would Ult be so much more efficient at using this resource? (perhaps more than twice as efficient)
This is a particular conundrum given that they also had more enemies who would order their members not to def.

Your explanation seems to be that p3n (or anyone else, since no-one else had higher non-ally ingal def) are all too lazy to bother, despite as I said the more civilized time. I simply dont buy that, and am searching for another viable explanation. Which I do not yet have.
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Well its one of the reasons wich does put Ult ahead of all other allies, members DCing their own incs ingal.
You're on to something here. When an ult member DC's his gal, naturally he'll get none-ult fleets moving aswell. Everyone benefits(except the attackers). Spread some love, and get some love in return.

Example; if agar3s dc's all of 7:4 all round, none-ult's in 7:4 is more inclined to send def to agar3s and other ults ingal..
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I dont see any difference there or an explanation.
BB, I think me and you are perhaps talking at cross purposes here.
So allow me to restate the question.
The issue in question is that Ult managed to get 872 non-ult ingal def fleets. P3n only managed 776 ingal non-p3n defence despite their spread being so much wider that they would have access to a pool of non-p3n defence that was probably double what ult could access ingal.
So the question is why would Ult be so much more efficient at using this resource? (perhaps more than twice as efficient)
This is a particular conundrum given that they also had more enemies who would order their members not to def.

Your explanation seems to be that p3n (or anyone else, since no-one else had higher non-ally ingal def) are all too lazy to bother, despite as I said the more civilized time. I simply dont buy that, and am searching for another viable explanation. Which I do not yet have.
Well first of all, Ult had way more incs than p3nguins.
Second, Ult has always been on top of out-allie def what ever round basicly.
Third, FL/Ult was basicly the same allie(atleast some would claim) for majority of the round, so they had a stronger "block"-
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You're on to something here. When an ult member DC's his gal, naturally he'll get none-ult fleets moving aswell. Everyone benefits(except the attackers). Spread some love, and get some love in return.

Example; if agar3s dc's all of 7:4 all round, none-ult's in 7:4 is more inclined to send def to agar3s and other ults ingal..
Except that it implies that those of us not in ult are all morons who just sit there gormlessly and cry when no ingal def is forthcoming to fix our woes!
Which is of course not true. P3nguins all dc themselves and know pretty much that p3n wont cover every wave which really should mean they are all even more interested in gal def than someone from Ult who knows he can rely on his alliance for cover (a reason why some of us actually rely on gal more than ally).
I dont see that an ult dcing all the incs on the ult ppl ingal should make the non ults more likley to send def. The only bit about this I understand is that ppl will send when a, asked and b, there is a nice bcalc. But I rather doubt you are seriously implying that the ppl in other alliances dont know how to use a battlecalc!
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FL/Ult was basicly the same allie(atleast some would claim) for majority of the round, so they had a stronger "block"
FL's relationship with Ult really does not affect things all that greatly. FL sent 125 ingal defences to Ult. A fair few sure, but delete them and Ult's ingal defence drops to the same level as p3n, with a very different size of pool of non-ally defenders to draw on.

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Ult has always been on top of out-allie def what ever round basicly.
This may be true but it is not an explanation.
Rather it restates the question, they are better at getting non ally ingal def every round, so they have a system for doing so that works consistently.

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Ult had way more incs than p3nguins.
The greater weight of incs on ult surely is a significant factor, which I mentioned in my first post on the subject, and it is one of the reasons for concentrating the question on ult/p3n rather than any other two since p3n had 2nd most incs and a completely different gal strategy.

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Except you dont, Ult sends no more def to the non ults ingal than most others. Although fair enough given the fewer non ults ingal you get a good number.

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When an ult member DC's his gal, naturally he'll get none-ult fleets moving aswell. Everyone benefits(except the attackers).
This really is the only explanation, and its not a pleasant one, Ult takes complete control of its galaxies and all of its fleets, regardless of whether they are ult or not, in a way that others, even those who fort, do not, or cannot.
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Re: R64 Inc stats

Its just natural that allies like ND/CT/p3ng/HR who has no DCs(When they are being targetted), could send more gal def to other allies than Ultores/BowS/FL who usual allready have tied up their members def fleets before "civlized" hours occurs.

Its not about controlling their gal members or what not, if they have a def fleet avaible they offer it to their gal m8s.

Another issue allies like p3ng(who avoids forts?) got is that when under fire, most allies will tell their members DONT defend alliance X, so you might end up with no def at all.
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Its just natural that allies like ND/CT/p3ng/HR who has no DCs(When they are being targetted), could send more gal def to other allies than Ultores/BowS/FL who usual allready have tied up their members def fleets before "civlized" hours occurs.
If this were really the case it should however mean that those who get defence are more inclined to send back. If this were the case p3n should get more not less ingal def.

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Its not about controlling their gal members or what not, if they have a def fleet avaible they offer it to their gal m8s.
This seems to bring about the odd idea that other alliances wont offer to their gal mates. Is this the case with bows? It certainly is not with p3nguins. It is an even odder claim if taken with the previous comment you made that p3nguins will have more fleets available to offer at gal def times.

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Another issue allies like p3ng(who avoids forts?) got is that when under fire, most allies will tell their members DONT defend alliance X, so you might end up with no def at all.
I would agree with you here if p3nguins faced the bigger coalition. But frankly I think most of us will agree that Ult faced more enemies so should have had more alliances saying no defence for ult planets.
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Its just natural that allies like ND/CT/p3ng/HR who has no DCs(When they are being targetted), could send more gal def to other allies than Ultores/BowS/FL who usual allready have tied up their members def fleets before "civlized" hours occurs.
uhuh now we are in total fantasy land, P3n sends as much oog def as anyone else who isnt ult, so why would we have more to give ingal? (Plus we attack much more, actually we are likely to have less fleets to offer)
No dedicated DCs does not mean you dont get called every night, bombarded with smses and tg messages. OFC you can ignore this and choose to send ingal instead, but so could any other alliance.
Besides which you are trying to defend ult from a charge I did not make.
I did not say they sent less, I said they sent about the same ingal to non ally members - meaning they did not send extra to justify the fact that they received more.
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The one who first asks for def is the one who first gets served, so if nobody in p3ng is DCing, they will always have free def fleets for ingal.
Ultores, when targetted, they will rarely have a lot of free fleets to spend ingal as they are DCing.
If your fleeted, your fleeted, you cant send your gal mates a lot of ingal def.

And yes, BowS and many other alliances, everyone ive been in infact, forbid their members to def vs alliances we are at war with.
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Are you being deliberately obtuse?
P3n does defend and does DC, the difference is that you DC yourselves The result is that you get called more for your ships not less as multiple people want ships, and dont necessarily know who else is calling. It is more disorganised, but not less demanding.
OFC people forbid def against those you are warring. booji's point was that Ult fought more people than p3n so more allies would have them on no-def than would have p3n on no-def.

Yeah there were times when p3n def collapsed in a sort of mass despair, but this happening on 3 or 4 days would not make much difference to our ability to offer more ingal def, and it is highly doubtful people were offering fleets ingal to non-p3ns on a day when we were on 150+ incs.
(and as i said it wedid not send significantly more ingal def to non allies)
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P3n does defend and does DC, the difference is that you DC yourselves The result is that you get called more for your ships not less as multiple people want ships, and dont necessarily know who else is calling. It is more disorganised, but not less demanding.
OFC people forbid def against those you are warring. booji's point was that Ult fought more people than p3n so more allies would have them on no-def than would have p3n on no-def.
I got no clue what the "anti-Ult block" agreed between themself, maybe they didnt have any spesific "no def policy".
But sounds like you know more than me, so you would be better explaining it?
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I got no clue what the "anti-Ult block" agreed between themself, maybe they didnt have any spesific "no def policy".
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I got no clue what the "anti-Ult block" agreed between themself, maybe they didnt have any spesific "no def policy".
But sounds like you know more than me, so you would be better explaining it?
Not at all, I was spelling out booji's point.

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Another issue allies like p3ng(who avoids forts?) got is that when under fire, most allies will tell their members DONT defend alliance X, so you might end up with no def at all.
I would agree with you here if p3nguins faced the bigger coalition. But frankly I think most of us will agree that Ult faced more enemies so should have had more alliances saying no defence for ult planets.
booji was agreeing with you that most allies put their enemies on no def. From that he suggests that since Ult fought either together or in sequence a whole load of allies for much of the round while P3n essentially fought four HR/FL/Bows/Ult and only all four for perhaps a week, falling to three for the end of the round. All in all Ult would having fought more people for longer have ended up with far more people unable to defend them at various points in the round.
This is not conspiracy, simply an extension of the logic you yourself were using.

[EDIT] quite frankly Im beginning to wonder where this is going for you BB, no-one is arguing that Ult sent less ingal def to non-ally galmates, (the figures are right there, they are fairly similar for all the allies really) so why all this effort to attempt to explain why they might not?
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[EDIT] quite frankly Im beginning to wonder where this is going for you BB, no-one is arguing that Ult sent less ingal def to non-ally galmates, (the figures are right there, they are fairly similar for all the allies really) so why all this effort to attempt to explain why they might not?
We are arguing because either you or i are:

A: Reading the stats incorrectly
B: Reading it diffrent

Gal def to non-ally members:
Ult 552
FL 482
p3ng 587
BF 451
CT 472
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Yes, as I said earlier (twice infact), all fairly similar for everyone. Defence from ult to others is not at issue at all.
The only reason I raised it was because Ult got more defence from ingal non ults and one plausible explanation for that was they gave more back "Spread some love, and get some love in return" as Chimpie said. There is little difference, so it isnt an explanation, there it should have ended, why it didnt, I have no idea!
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Re: R64 Inc stats

Galaxy defence, excluding defence to own alliance:

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Day 0 - 49: 1 - 1175: 1175 ticks

| To \ From    | Ult   | Face  | p3n   | BF    | CT    | RB    | AG    | HR    | ND    | FC    | PATSA | Other | Total |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
| Ultores      |       |   125 |   107 |    31 |    33 |   103 |   112 |    40 |    17 |    35 |       |   269 |   872 |
| Faceless     |    44 |       |    35 |    25 |    40 |    48 |    87 |    52 |    18 |     2 |       |   106 |   457 |
| p3nguins     |    79 |    34 |       |   127 |    82 |    79 |   112 |    67 |    19 |     3 |       |   174 |   776 |
| Black Flag   |    29 |    15 |   111 |       |    41 |    48 |    60 |    35 |    34 |     1 |       |    75 |   449 |
| Conspiracy   |    11 |    52 |    15 |    43 |       |    20 |   100 |    25 |    56 |       |       |   138 |   460 |
| RainbowS     |    63 |    48 |    25 |    48 |    24 |       |    44 |    36 |    10 |     9 |       |   148 |   455 |
| Åsgard       |    55 |    35 |    87 |    50 |    50 |    43 |       |    18 |     8 |    11 |       |    65 |   422 |
| Howling Rain |    22 |    39 |    52 |    32 |    26 |    29 |    61 |       |    64 |       |       |    88 |   413 |
| NewDawn      |    28 |    38 |    15 |    20 |    67 |    14 |    15 |    35 |       |     3 |       |   161 |   396 |
| FIGHTCLUB    |    57 |     1 |     5 |     4 |       |    10 |     3 |     2 |       |       |       |    14 |    96 |
| PATSA        |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |
| Other        |   164 |    95 |   135 |    71 |   109 |   128 |   102 |    86 |    63 |    31 |     1 |   185 |  1170 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|        Total |   552 |   482 |   587 |   451 |   472 |   522 |   696 |   396 |   289 |    95 |     1 |  1423 |  5966 |
|--------------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
\ row = fleets *to* that alliance
\ column = fleets *from* that alliance
i.e.:
  • Ultores send 552 gal def fleets to non Ultores planets
  • Ultores received 872 gal def fleets from non Ultores planets
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Yes, as I said earlier (twice infact), a fairly similar for everyone. Defence from ult to others is not at issue at all.
The only reason I raised it was because Ult got more defence from ingal non ults and one plausible explanation for that was they gave more back "Spread some love, and get some love in return" as Chimpie said. There is little difference, so it isnt an explanation, there it should have ended, why it didnt, I have no idea!
Yeah, they are simply just more dedicated DCing their own gals as i said a few posts ago.
I think Krypton said in another thread that p3nguins are the old players who aint dedicated, and i think the same goes for allies like BF/CT aswell.
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Krypton's attempts to do us down in comparison to ult were slightly irritating, though they have a basis in truth, you can hardly characterize us as inactives. Add defence and attack together and our fleet activity is nearly as good as ults. You cannot get that level of attack launches without at least a portion of the alliance dragging themselves online to launch recall in the night time, then have fleets back early for new attacks in the daytime etc. there comes a point when attacking is not much less intensive than defence.
But from that you can also read that P3ns would have been on to organise ingal def. And I cannot see why they wouldnt do so. Which is why booji and I have found your insinuation we either cant or wont DC as an explanation so infuriating.

And before you dredge up the numbers and find that Ult and p3n only have a 100 fleet difference in (non alliance) ingal def and wonder why all the fuss, let me remind you that the question is efficiency, not the raw numbers. Ult have fewer (less than half what p3n has) non ults ingal to use yet got more out of it.
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So it shows they were happy to def ult but not anyone else... but not happy to wake up in the middle of the night so only defended ingal. Eminently sensible!
These stats show that there's some truth to the notion that Fightclub were in Ultores' corner. That's not the same thing as migz unquestioningly following every one of agar3s orders, but every piece of propaganda has a kernel of truth in it. This is that.

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Except that it implies that those of us not in ult are all morons who just sit there gormlessly and cry when no ingal def is forthcoming to fix our woes!
Which is of course not true. P3nguins all dc themselves and know pretty much that p3n wont cover every wave which really should mean they are all even more interested in gal def than someone from Ult who knows he can rely on his alliance for cover (a reason why some of us actually rely on gal more than ally).
I dont see that an ult dcing all the incs on the ult ppl ingal should make the non ults more likley to send def. The only bit about this I understand is that ppl will send when a, asked and b, there is a nice bcalc. But I rather doubt you are seriously implying that the ppl in other alliances dont know how to use a battlecalc!
And rightly you should doubt that. Ult has slightly higher activity during incs. HC's expects forted planets to sort most of gal DC'ing by themself. Most ult planets were forted last round. + Knowing how to set up a calc, and actually doing it is two completely different things. From what i saw, my original statement is somewhat spot on. I can't spreak for p3ng(nor was i originally) since i had none of them ingal, and from what i understood they were more fenced than forted.
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Except you dont, Ult sends no more def to the non ults ingal than most others. Although fair enough given the fewer non ults ingal you get a good number.
With 35+ members in forts, i'd say ult spreads more love than anyone else.

One could also argue that Ultores sending more def than anyone has done since ascendancy in round 30(when there was a 100 member limit in allies) imposes some sort of defence culture in their forts aswell..
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One could also argue that Ultores sending more def than anyone has done since ascendancy in round 30(when there was a 100 member limit in allies) imposes some sort of defence culture in their forts aswell..
A flattering comparison no doubt...
but I think I would take the history pages with a pinch of salt, I had a look to verify your claim, and I find FANG in r46 had Alliance defence: 3959, but oddly Total defence was less: 3530.
On the basis of alliance def higher than total def, the ult of r45 also comes out higher.
As a result I have no idea if they were higher than your figure or not (though again more members) but what it does suggest (as Bram has already hinted) is that there is little consistency in how PA records defence.

[Edit] this phenomenon of alliance defence higher than total defence recurs a lot in the 30s and 40s, I'm mystified.
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