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Unread 27 Feb 2005, 00:19   #1
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Just watching Spy Game
and to cut through all the crap i think it boils down to this:

"Would you spend the rest of your life (or at least 20 years) in prison in exchange for the life of a sibling/other family member/your closest friend?"

So would you?
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Unread 27 Feb 2005, 00:21   #2
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Re: Just watching Spy Game
Yes.
Although I may end my own life as well if this was an option.
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Unread 27 Feb 2005, 00:29   #3
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Re: Just watching Spy Game
no dear.

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Unread 27 Feb 2005, 00:33   #4
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Re: Just watching Spy Game
it's not that silly
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Re: Just watching Spy Game
you'd do it for me wouldn't you

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Unread 27 Feb 2005, 00:41   #6
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Re: Just watching Spy Game
Probably not, if they were in the wrong.

ARGH, WHY THE NEG REP?
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Unread 27 Feb 2005, 00:58   #7
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Re: Just watching Spy Game
Boogster i think the neg rep comes from you not being willing to exchange 20 years of your life for the TOTAL life of someone close to you.
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Unread 27 Feb 2005, 01:02   #8
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Re: Just watching Spy Game
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Boogster i think the neg rep comes from you not being willing to exchange 20 years of your life for the TOTAL life of someone close to you.
But why should I? I would be perfectly willing to, say, jump into the path of a moving vehicle in order to save my little sister from being run over. However, if my Dad had just killed a man, why should he escape just punishment?
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Re: Just watching Spy Game
Don't get me wrong
I'm really not souped
Ego trips is not my thing
All these strange relationships really gets me down
I see nothing wrong in spreading myself around


Everybody's talking all this stuff about me
Why don't they just let me live?
I don't need permission, make my own decisions
That's my prerogative
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Unread 27 Feb 2005, 01:05   #10
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Re: Just watching Spy Game
**** off Boogster
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Unread 27 Feb 2005, 01:06   #11
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Re: Just watching Spy Game
I'm with boogster, are you saying we actually shouldn't be responsible for our actions here?
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Re: Just watching Spy Game
I suppose so. Although saying that, this situation is totally hypothetical and so a lot would depend on the circumstances. Let's just hope it never comes to it!
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Re: Just watching Spy Game
i would say "take me to prison", in the knowledge that the 'victim' would say "koen, don't do it!!! i'm not worth it. live your life, don't worry about me".
then i would let him/her win the arguement. i wouldn't have to go to prison and people would still think i'm a hero.
i've seen this in movies.
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Re: Just watching Spy Game
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and to cut through all the crap i think it boils down to this:

"Would you spend the rest of your life (or at least 20 years) in prison in exchange for the life of a sibling/other family member/your closest friend?"

So would you?
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However, if my Dad had just killed a man, why should he escape just punishment?
It depends whether you think capital punishment could be just punishment or not (I do, but many do not).

In answer to the original question, yes I would for a few people, but none of them are relatives.

If I thought my father (for example) had molested / killed a bunch of kids I would seriously consider killing him myself. You've got to deal with your own, etc.
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Re: Just watching Spy Game
Yeah well what i meant was that in the film Redford isn't actually offering an exchange of his life in prison for the life of Pitt.

HOWEVER he did **** the security agency (impersonating a superior officer, illegal use of materiel, risking an international incident) and as such if he was ever "caught" i just figured he would spend a long time in jail for it (however Pitt would be alive so ...).

So how about in that situation ... Would you do what Redford's character had done?*
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Re: Just watching Spy Game
I'd have to say yes, simply because the people who I would do it for are resourceful enough to have me out of prison and in another country within a month.
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