[Discuss] Paras

[NitinA]

With selective people ragging on clusters as being unsuccessful, ect. what about bringing back parallels like in round 4? With a reduced size universe comparative to then, parallels would only be about 2 times larger than clusters currently are, which would perhaps cause parallels to be able to more of a functional working unit than clusters, as with two times as many people per -1 eta, more cooperation possibilities would be made avaliable.

For those who are new to paralells, coords are x:y:z, with x being the cluster, y being the parallel, and z, of course, being the planet.

Any comments or suggestions?

-NitinA

[God]

good idea.

[Cannon_Fodder]

Parallel.
Btw.

[MAdnRisKy]

unless you change the mechanics more, it isn't going to matter one bit if you use parallels or clusters, and just so you know it used to be 25 gals in a cluster, you could still use clusters and revert to that model and you'd have the same effect.

the problem isn't whether or not you link x or y it's how you link them....

[Makhil]

if it just gives more def possibilities it won't be fun. let's make it -1 eta for both attack and def and see how each para works it out

[Ultimate Newbie]

Having been on the receiving end of alot of in-para incoming in R4 i can say that its not very fun if you arent in the top tier //alliance. Furthermore, there are systemic problems with co-operation in C that wont be changed with changing it to paras - problems like insufficint fleet slots, mistrust of shady characters, competing alliance demands and requirements, and alliance wars/hositilities.

tbh i dont think it would change much... :\

[ComradeRob]

The problem atm is that people don't defend in-cluster. Increasing the size of the "cluster" by using parallels won't help. 170% of nothing is still nothing.

Personally, I think the in-cluster defence bonus should change to -2. In that case, clusters can give you something even your alliance can't, so every player has an incentive to set up a strong cluster alliance. Crucially, this gets the highly active alliance players involved, and their support is necessary to make any cluster alliance work.

[Kal]

Originally Posted by ComradeRob

The problem atm is that people don't defend in-cluster. Increasing the size of the "cluster" by using parallels won't help. 170% of nothing is still nothing.

Personally, I think the in-cluster defence bonus should change to -2. In that case, clusters can give you something even your alliance can't, so every player has an incentive to set up a strong cluster alliance. Crucially, this gets the highly active alliance players involved, and their support is necessary to make any cluster alliance work.

i'd agree, but given that logic wouln;t people care about their galaxies a bit more than they do now?

[Cooling]

Originally Posted by Kal

i'd agree, but given that logic wouln;t people care about their galaxies a bit more than they do now?

Err they do care about their galaxies to a certain extent, the problem is that gals are limited in terms of size etc. Making a cluster -2 eta would certainly bring back the idea of a strong cluster alliance.

But however you work it; you must make sure that it is impossible for an alliance to gain a huge advantage by all signing up at the same time so that they all end up in the same cluster/paralell as happened in r4.

[Ultimate Newbie]

Originally Posted by Cooling

But however you work it; you must make sure that it is impossible for an alliance to gain a huge advantage by all signing up at the same time so that they all end up in the same cluster/paralell as happened in r4.

I seem to be under the mistaken presumption that this is what the suffle was for - and why it is done partway through the round.

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[MAdnRisKy]

silly sov

[Forest]

Originally Posted by Cooling

Err they do care about their galaxies to a certain extent, the problem is that gals are limited in terms of size etc. Making a cluster -2 eta would certainly bring back the idea of a strong cluster alliance.

It would just mean block clusters so for instance 1up/nd wuld join one c alliance, exil/lch and all would join another.
It would actually encourage blocking :/