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Unread 10 Feb 2003, 17:31   #1
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and modifying some stats. So far, it seems Zikonian will be the race subject to changes, specially their stealing capabilities.
Xan universe again, whoopee.
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Unread 10 Feb 2003, 18:01   #2
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Xan should be changed, definately.

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never saw much of last round so cannot really comment, but surley if this many people complain about xan dominance then its about timee they change it?

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It's time for another poll methinks.

I don't really feel like paying for a round with skewed, crap stats.
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the way i read it was that after some initial changes to stats, the ziks needed a little tuning..

i fail to see how this means a Xan universe..
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it's the scans folks.

that and the small universe leading to an increase in the nesseccesity of bash n roid tactics for which the xan race is best suited.

the stats themselves given a wider playing field, and without those fking mil scan changes would have been fine
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the way i read it was that after some initial changes to stats, the ziks needed a little tuning.
I didn't read it that way; but then with Spinner, I rarely know what he's talking about. :/
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Unfortunately I read it as though it looks like Zikonians are the only ones that are going to be changed. If so, I know I'm definitely making the switch from Terran to Xandrathii. Having the opportunity to land a fleet once every two weeks in R8 was not enjoyable
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With the return of rivate galaxies, the stats are probably fairly ok anyway.
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First of all, the topic for this thread is completely wrong, it should certainly be something with "Stats", and it certainly has nothing to do with PaTeam.
If you wish to diss me, please diss "Creators" or just go with the common "Spinner and his stats" posts.

More to the point, I will modify the announcement so it is more clear, I did not mean to indicate that Ziks are the only ones being changed, but RIGHT NOW (like tonight) I am working on Ziks.
I was hoping the daily updates wouldnt lead to even more work to avoid being misinterpreted, but I take full critics for my poor english and bad choice of words.

And its a thrill to see all this confidence, really motivates me
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Unread 10 Feb 2003, 20:16   #12
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Unfortunately I read it as though it looks like Zikonians are the only ones that are going to be changed.
I actually read the announcement like Spinner meant it, heh.
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And its a thrill to see all this confidence, really motivates me

You simply need someone to write the announcements for you, so these types of misunderstandings are avoided in the future...as PA players always assume the worst.

Give us a reason to become optimists, by all means
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Unread 10 Feb 2003, 20:30   #14
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it's the scans folks.

that and the small universe leading to an increase in the nesseccesity of bash n roid tactics for which the xan race is best suited.

the stats themselves given a wider playing field, and without those fking mil scan changes would have been fine
here here! the bulk of Xan domination last round lies in the short-sighted implementation of the mil scan. much of the imbalance of last round's mid/end game can be addressed by simply reverting to the old mil scan.
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Unread 10 Feb 2003, 20:42   #15
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Spinner should get the "BC Experience", being BC for just one night for a major alliance, and he'll know what a pain it is with these handicapped milscans.
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Well, the "handicapped milscans" are "handicapped" on purpose. If we want the races to be differnt, this is a fun way of making Xans different. But it doesnt seem to have any drawbacks on the xans, and that has to change.
So a penalty in stats or added costs are certainly coming.
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Well, the "handicapped milscans" are "handicapped" on purpose. If we want the races to be differnt, this is a fun way of making Xans different. But it doesnt seem to have any drawbacks on the xans, and that has to change.
So a penalty in stats or added costs are certainly coming.
hiya Spinner Why are they handicapped again? I'm an old fart, I need reminding =\
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well I dont know what to call the current crew/team/creators, sorry for the misunderstanding.

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It's time for another poll methinks.
I totally agree. The creators previously have done well in listening to the players, but recently I feel there has been a reduced amount of it. This could well be due to a business plan from Sim-Tech, or that they don't really want to put that much effort into changing and testing round 9, as we all know round 10 is the main focus. (btw if round 10 isn't the dog's b0ll0cks I'm going to be miffed.)

Anyways, back to the poll. Perhaps 'What would you like to see in the R9 ship stats?', with options such as:
  • Leave them as per R8
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  • Don't know, but they need changing
  • Other (I have commented on this [the poll] thread)
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hiya Spinner Why are they handicapped again? I'm an old fart, I need reminding =\
He dont want a BC to last more than one round?
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He dont want a BC to last more than one round?
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Sentinal back to ETA 3 in stead of 2 and make it a nice metal ship again.

Zks might have a small upgrade as well but only if they have removed the age from stealing. No more ships donations with salvage bonus.

Btw, did they actually fix the savage bug from r8 ?? Several planets including myself got hardly any salvage even though losing quite a few ships on def.

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Seems like they listened. Xan's been reduced quite a bit, going by Spinner's latest announcement.

Should level the spread of races.
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About time something motivated you. Now just go back to tweaking and see how much you can f#ck up more stats and then do your stupid lame backward smile so it looks like you have some idea instead of none like usual.
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well I dont know what to call the current crew/team/creators, sorry for the misunderstanding.

and your english is awful
darn sight better than my norwegian..

they dont give an update, they get told off for not lettin us know whats goin on. they give us an update, and whatever they are doing is wrong. is it at all possible we are all to cynical and should cut spinner + co a lil slack? or am i gettin soft in my old age?

as for the thread title, agreed.. nothing to do with the content.

heh this thread seems to be "flame for flames sake"
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About time something motivated you. Now just go back to tweaking and see how much you can f#ck up more stats and then do your stupid lame backward smile so it looks like you have some idea instead of none like usual.
a fan.. how nice..

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a fan.. how nice..

"mommy.. see how i made big words.."
I see you are easily impressed.. which word was big for you... perhaps idea as Im sure you dont have any... just like spinner
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Fred of Bedrock, if you hate everything so much, then why are you still here wasting our time posting that crap?
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Fred of Bedrock, if you hate everything so much, then why are you still here wasting our time posting that crap?

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Its OK Allfather... it seems these drongoes cant read everything just selectively. If the stopped and thought about it they should see that most of the disappointment is in seeing spinner back despite making a complete mess of things. scraggydo thought he would be clever but ofc his wit was about as good as spinners tweaks.

As far as going back in my cave and not posting..... perhaps they dont come from democracies where every-one has a right to express their opinions even if they dont happen to agree with them. If there wasnt a voice of reason then perhaps they wouldnt see the snow job certain crew are trying to make.
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any reason in particular he should take advice from some secondrate subhuman teenager?
Oh right. I forgot that if we aren't cynical pricks who hide behind the safety of their annonymity, we aren't really human. But I'm sure you are human enough for the rest of us. And if that insult is the best you can come up with, then either you are the teenager or you just aren't trying hard enough. Or maybe the hormones are just getting the better of ya?

I don't see Spinner coming to these boards and bashing either one of you. If you don't like how he runs things, fine. That still doesn't mean you should insult the man.
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I don't see Spinner coming to these boards and bashing either one of you. If you don't like how he runs things, fine. That still doesn't mean you should insult the man.
Means they should go do somethan else with there lives. But there still entitled as anyone else is to voice there opinions.
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