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Unread 17 May 2004, 11:57   #1
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I seen Derren Brown last night

seen his show, anyone else see it, it was fantastic....
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Unread 17 May 2004, 12:01   #2
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Re: I seen Derren Brown last night

I haven't seen it.

But can you be more descriptive of the show, a little more than "it was fantastic", please?

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Unread 17 May 2004, 12:08   #3
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Re: I seen Derren Brown last night

It's entirely pointless television; there's no way to know what's real and what's faked, because there's no independent observers (say what you like about Paul Daniels, he was very serious about his magic), so how do we know that something which seems miraculous isn't just a result of good editing?

(Similar things apply to any 'live' show; we know he cheated more than usual in magic for the bullet thing, why shouldn't his show be any different?)

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Re: I seen Derren Brown last night

His tickets were ****ing £35. **** that.
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Unread 17 May 2004, 12:24   #5
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Re: I seen Derren Brown last night

mine was only £20

he basically done the stuff he usually does asking people to think of names etc.
but he randomly selected people by throwing frisbees into the audience. Etc

He memoriesed the whole belfast phone book, and got people to give their surname and initial and he gave them their phone number and street.

He done a bit of making people sleep.

Then in the 2nd half of the show he done a whole ouija board set up
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Re: I seen Derren Brown last night

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It's entirely pointless television; there's no way to know what's real and what's faked, because there's no independent observers (say what you like about Paul Daniels, he was very serious about his magic), so how do we know that something which seems miraculous isn't just a result of good editing?)
Isnt that the point? The barrier between reality and fiction becomes even more blurred, gg postmodernism.
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Unread 17 May 2004, 15:51   #7
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Re: I seen Derren Brown last night

200 years ago he would have been attached to a large stake and burnt
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Re: I seen Derren Brown last night

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200 years ago he would have been attached to a large stake and burnt
What's stoppin us?!

Seriously - the only way I'd believe him is if he did something on me (no not shoot cum MM!)
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Re: I seen Derren Brown last night

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It's entirely pointless television;


It's entertaining.

I fail to see how this is pointless.


Mr Brown does memory stuff, and what looks from the tv show to be hypnotism and suggestion.

he also did the infamous russian roullete stunt.
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Re: I seen Derren Brown last night

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It's entertaining.

I fail to see how this is pointless.
It's a pretty worthless spectacle.

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Mr Brown does memory stuff, and what looks from the tv show to be hypnotism and suggestion.

he also did the infamous russian roullete stunt.
I... know what he did/does.
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Re: I seen Derren Brown last night

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I haven't seen it.

But can you be more descriptive of the show, a little more than "it was fantastic", please?



no one's actually described it since then.

kinda answered taht post in a two birds with one stone type malarky.

Worthless by what definition, if lots of people watch it, then it makes money, if he can sell tickets at £35 a pop and people buy them, then it makes money.
just because you ondt like it, doesnt mean other people arent allowed to........
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Re: I seen Derren Brown last night

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Worthless by what definition
As a spectacle, you know? Like I said? There's no evidence that there's any actual skill involved (at least in the TV show, magic is based around deception so the live show is probably more elegant).
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Re: I seen Derren Brown last night

You're just jealous he doesn't have a magic wand/sexy assistant
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Re: I seen Derren Brown last night

He's making considerably more money than mark for being worthless.
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Re: I seen Derren Brown last night

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He's making considerably more money than mark for being worthless.
Ironically, the following quote "Love thy neighbour as thyself" comes from Mark 12:28.
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