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Unread 1 Dec 2016, 05:18   #1
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Congrats to ult round 69

Gratz Ult you managed to out manoeuvre the uni with pols, enjoy the win.
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Re: Congrats to ult round 69

Well deserved.
The EOR NAP with Apprime, and the deal with Future after roiding them to the stoneage has to go down in the history as some of the finest political deals in the history of PA.
The way Ult were able to controll 3:7 this round to do their bidding, shows that they are just too good to be beaten atm.
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Re: Congrats to ult round 69

Imagine the fun next round when Apprime and Ultores start their new 1177 tick nap... that'll be fun for you whiners
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ult were beaten until the uni turned on 1 alliance. App were retarded with some of their decisions though.
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Re: Congrats to ult round 69

just LOOKED at who we have in tag firebird... what can you expect
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Ta fking Chav.
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Considering how many roids and how much salvage Future gave to Ultores, I think it is Future's victory aswell.
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Re: Congrats to ult round 69

Ult has the most incs this round I am pretty sure..

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Apprime politics were quite awful to be honest. I guess that's what happens when carDi is in charge. He thought he was being clever by vaccing but he still couldn't win.
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Apprime politics were quite awful to be honest. I guess that's what happens when carDi is in charge. He thought he was being clever by vaccing but he still couldn't win.
How would you know that? Away whole round pal.
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I saw the attack page. Warred almost the enitre universe. No wonder this is the second block on Apprime.
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I saw the attack page. Warred almost the enitre universe. No wonder this is the second block on Apprime.
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ult were beaten until the uni turned on 1 alliance. App were retarded with some of their decisions though.
lol, you needed to outnumber us 4 to 1 to beat us tho. And it still took you guys 300 ticks to do it.
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Re: Congrats to ult round 69

Xerxes, just to add to it, I guess I was short with what I wrote.

The things the cost App

Attacking fringe allies
Attacking p3n instead of future
Attacking CT instead of ND
Vac Mode

All the above is just my opinion as I have said to Agar3s and yourself the round was App's to throw away, on so many occasions instead of turning left we went right.

I have had no influence in what's happened I have ranted at times as I did forsee this coming, however that being said for App to drag themselves back into contention until this latest block that to me was pretty impressive.

The block that came last night decided the outcome ult had the lead and the block ensured no-one could challenge it.

Ult and App needed to remain block free for there to have been anything other than an ULT win.

Like I said I don't know all the in's and out's of the round I really wasn't following it closely I didn't have a fleet till tick 500 I didn't start attacking until p3n hit me around tick 800ish.
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Ult has the most incs this round I am pretty sure..

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If you like losing, sure. Winning PA is about napping until you can't nap any more, and then organizing gangbangs on your enemies before they do the same to you. War is bad, and fair (or balanced) fights are even worse.
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I think we will be top by ~30%
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I seriously doubt that.

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I seriously doubt that.

Both us and Ultores are around 3500.
we barely passed 1000
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I seriously doubt that.

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3384 ingame intel stats says. Most of those incs were between pt200 and pt700 afaik, will wait for Brams stats.
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3422 for app from ingame intel
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i expect p3ng to be on 4k+
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Hehe, im pretty sure we will be the alliance with the highest percentage hitting top tags this round.
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Agreed.

I think we will be top by ~30%
Top in lost roids sure! Incs maybe but not by that much as you forget that there was an immensely long period in the middle of 0 incs on us.

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The block that came last night decided the outcome ult had the lead and the block ensured no-one could challenge it.
A good chunk of said block would have hit ult for the last two days if app had wanted to. Unfortunately p3n and a couple of small alliances gave up waiting for you (carDi said give him a few days at the weekend) and since CT wanted to hit app but not Ult it was decided (I should note I had no part in the negations on creating this block so there may have been other causes that would have made it harder to turn the small allies on Ult than I am aware of).
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Top in lost roids sure! Incs maybe but not by that much as you forget that there was an immensely long period in the middle of 0 incs on us.



A good chunk of said block would have hit ult for the last two days if app had wanted to. Unfortunately p3n and a couple of small alliances gave up waiting for you (carDi said give him a few days at the weekend) and since CT wanted to hit app but not Ult it was decided (I should note I had no part in the negations on creating this block so there may have been other causes that would have made it harder to turn the small allies on Ult than I am aware of).
We don't back out of deals unlike some other allies mkay.

Also they can count Inc in game. Intel tab!
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Also they can count Inc in game. Intel tab!
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BowS never get invited to these gangbang-block-discussion though, i wonder why
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We don't back out of deals unlike some other allies mkay.
Maybe p3ng or who ever is bad cus they are breaking their deals with 4 days notice, but they cannot even reach half way up to the level of stupidty of alliances that agrees to EOR deals before the round has even been played 3/4 of the way.
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Maybe p3ng or who ever is bad cus they are breaking their deals with 4 days notice, but they cannot even reach half way up to the level of stupidty of alliances that agrees to EOR deals before the round has even been played 3/4 of the way.
So EOR deals can only be made last few days of round?
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Maybe p3ng or who ever is bad cus they are breaking their deals with 4 days notice, but they cannot even reach half way up to the level of stupidty of alliances that agrees to EOR deals before the round has even been played 3/4 of the way.
After they hit us we changed our round priorities and made a deal with Ult ok.
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Maybe p3ng or who ever is bad cus they are breaking their deals with 4 days notice, but they cannot even reach half way up to the level of stupidty of alliances that agrees to EOR deals before the round has even been played 3/4 of the way.
Reaction of p3n napping ult and getting them to hit us with them.

P3n couldn't take 1 week of inc, which after we would have rejoined vs ult. It's p3n's choice hitting us that made us nap ult. If p3n cba getting inc for a week why would we let them roid us to help them win?

If we had i'm pretty sure munkee would have broken any deal we made with p3n once again if he had a chance to win:P
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P3n couldn't take 1 week of inc, which after we would have rejoined vs ult. It's p3n's choice hitting us that made us nap ult. If p3n cba getting inc for a week why would we let them roid us to help them win?

If we had i'm pretty sure munkee would have broken any deal we made with p3n once again if he had a chance to win:P
Atleast they have some fcking balls to go for the win.
Apprime must be the biggest joke of a alliance we have seen in a long-long time.
Who would NAP Ult for the rest of the round when they have a fairly good shot at winning?
I had a App representative that PMed me the other day asking us for a favour to help them win by hitting Ult instead of App
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Atleast they have some fcking balls to go for the win.
Apprime must be the biggest joke of a alliance we have seen in a long-long time.
Who would NAP Ult for the rest of the round when they have a fairly good shot at winning?
I had a App representative that PMed me the other day asking us for a favour to help them win by hitting Ult instead of App
Right.
We won enough rounds to not give a **** about one.
Also we went for the win until everyone decided to hit us. So be it then!
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biggest joke would be rainbows winning alliance
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Re: Congrats to ult round 69

Dont most alliances going for the win get gangbanged at some point? Surely you were going to. Would you have just give up if p3n had not been a part of it?

Sandvold we had little evidence that you would hit ult at the end of that week. Indeed the evidence we had was that you were encouraging other alliances to hit us. This may have been wrong (cardi certainly denied it) but it is what we had and circumstantial evidence from relation changes supported it. At the same time you had barely even told us that you would go back to hitting ult - looking back at my logs no one from app ever concretely said they would hit ult again after the week off. From Sandvold the closest is "we'll most likely be back on ult next week sometime" while carDi more often suggests Ult wants app to hit p3n as he suggests app may go back to hitting Ult. Since I could never offer anything concrete to the rest of p3n officers about app rejoining the fight is it a surprise the decision ultimately went against app? Edit: I also have to admit I was not a great advocate on app's behalf.

Ultimately we may still have decided to go for it and hit app but the lack of anything to encourage us to stay the course from your side did not exactly encourage us to keep in the fight against Ult.
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Dont most alliances going for the win get gangbanged at some point? Surely you were going to. Would you have just give up if p3n had not been a part of it?

Sandvold we had little evidence that you would hit ult at the end of that week. Indeed the evidence we had was that you were encouraging other alliances to hit us. This may have been wrong (cardi certainly denied it) but it is what we had and circumstantial evidence from relation changes supported it. At the same time you had barely even told us that you would go back to hitting ult - looking back at my logs no one from app ever concretely said they would hit ult again after the week off. From Sandvold the closest is "we'll most likely be back on ult next week sometime" while carDi more often suggests Ult wants app to hit p3n as he suggests app may go back to hitting Ult. Since I could never offer anything concrete to the rest of p3n officers about app rejoining the fight is it a surprise the decision ultimately went against app? Edit: I also have to admit I was not a great advocate on app's behalf.

Ultimately we may still have decided to go for it and hit app but the lack of anything to encourage us to stay the course from your side did not exactly encourage us to keep in the fight against Ult.
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Re: Congrats to ult round 69

not winning does not automatically mean the decision to give it a go was wrong. We thought the chances of us winning if we hit you were better than if not but none of us thought we were the most likely winner with either course. (Though just to show how badly wrong one can be at the time I thought future probably the most likely winner if p3n hit app by staying out of everything).

If say we thought the chance of winning by hitting app 50% while on the flip side a 50% chance of being crushed. While on the other side we thought the chance of winning 10%, getting an easy 2nd 60% and getting crushed 30% by continuing to hit ult which should we choose?

A conservative looking for an easy life would go for 2, while someone radical looking to win will clearly go for 1.
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Re: Congrats to ult round 69

We knew nothing was gonna change when blocked turned on us last 3 days to prevent us from winning.

Before block

ult rank 1
app rank 2
p3ng rank 3

After block

ult rank 1
app rank 2
p3ng rank 3

However i know there was discussions about helping p3ng/ct , animaru/pace
to get planet ranks if they stayed away from block as it would keep ult grounded. And the chance for sucess was much bigger if any of the two allies wanted to win anything at all this round.

At this stage pace/animaru was rank 3 and 4 i think, and would clearly benefit and have a chance to get top 3 planet ranks with takeing the deal.
However they clearly thought they would have bigger chances to claim planets ranks by hitting app.

Even we told them this was not gonna happend

Luckily we all see who was right in the end and what did not work out the way they hoped...

Pace rank 6
animaru rank 7

To bad thoose players deserved much more , but sadly they lack leaders with any goals at all.

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says the guy who were in a tag that NAPed the #1 tag for the rest of the round before the round had kicked off....
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At this stage pace/animaru was rank 3 and 4 i think, and would clearly benefit and have a chance to get top 3 planet ranks with takeing the deal.
However they clearly thought they would have bigger chances to claim planets ranks by hitting app.

Pace rank 6
animaru rank 7
No idea about pace but I cant see how you could have helped ani without being willing to hit ult. His basic problem was having less than 1k roids and regular large waves of incs from ult. A deal with you would not stop those waves, and could not get him roids. As it was he got 9k xp in the last couple of days off app. What could you have offered that would have given a better result for him?
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Re: Congrats to ult round 69

Lol I love it, someone starts a congrats ult thread and it takes what 4 posts until all the
Sad people starting pointing fingers at eachother like todlers

No wonder ult always dances circles around everyone
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No idea about pace but I cant see how you could have helped ani without being willing to hit ult. His basic problem was having less than 1k roids and regular large waves of incs from ult. A deal with you would not stop those waves, and could not get him roids. As it was he got 9k xp in the last couple of days off app. What could you have offered that would have given a better result for him?

Munkee dont tell you anything it seems.
Its worse than i thought =), munkee really do control p3ng solo it seems!

Even agar3s have thoose logs, but you as p3ng hc dont =) makes me smile!
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Munkee dont tell you anything it seems.
Its worse than i thought =), munkee really do control p3ng solo it seems!

Even agar3s have thoose logs, but you as p3ng hc dont =) makes me smile!
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I got them all, even the ones of you trying to seduce clouds before you knew he was a guy.

i knew he was a guy
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