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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by Firebird
Munkee consistently I have been in the alliance that uni seem to get into their heads they have to take down ore round.
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You're still #1, so your level of incoming could not possibly have been disproportionate.
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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by Clouds
I guess it's a question of who does the universe want to win, Ultores or Faceless.
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Hard to believe there is any pretense of politics when you are essentially saying that winning pa is down to a popularity contest.
Butch3rs post about pre launch has been the best on the thread: he makes some nice points about how it influences behaviour. Forcing players to launch live would mean alliances would have to hit alliances at sociable times to launch a proper attack, and it would mean that the more dedicated players would get reward for putting the time in. The perverse effect of pre launch is that you sleep at a social hour, set your attack for 3am and profit. This means there is no incentive to do anything that provokes an attack on yourself, you take no risk and only enter wars which are hideously one sided.
At the moment the game rewards politics that involves being fairly restrained and just waiting for alliances to hate on the other guys for you to win when the decisive battles come. As I've said, it's all about winning a popularity contest. If you're happy with that, continue.
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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by lokken
At the moment the game rewards politics that involves being fairly restrained and just waiting for alliances to hate on the other guys for you to win when the decisive battles come. As I've said, it's all about winning a popularity contest. If you're happy with that, continue.
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Still, Ultores is winning. Alliance Ranking should be less based on value (which doesnt mean it should be more based on XP)
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Re: R64 predictions
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Hard to believe there is any pretense of politics when you are essentially saying that winning pa is down to a popularity contest.
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Especially when he has multiple votes on who wins the contest.
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1 Dec 2015, 20:19
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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by Patrikc
Especially when he has multiple votes on who wins the contest.
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gotta be THE best post of this round
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2 Dec 2015, 07:45
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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by fortran
Still, Ultores is winning. Alliance Ranking should be less based on value (which doesnt mean it should be more based on XP)
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Just so you know Faceless has 9 mil more value...
http://kia.cthq.net/?p=compare&compa...ow=total_value
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2 Dec 2015, 10:47
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Re: R64 predictions
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Just so you know, you don't need to fake stupidity here. There are many capable to fill this hole without putting effort.
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Re: R64 predictions
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Just so you know, you don't need to fake stupidity here. There are many capable to fill this hole without putting effort.
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Pal what?
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2 Dec 2015, 11:46
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Re: R64 predictions
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Pal what?
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Ultores could kick their bottom players now and recruit among the top 100 to beat Faceless in value too.
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2 Dec 2015, 14:12
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Re: R64 predictions
Quite easy to stack up value when you spend 90% of the round sat on a fence.
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2 Dec 2015, 15:30
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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by Firebird
Quite easy to stack up value when you spend 90% of the round sat on a fence.
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You jelly?
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2 Dec 2015, 15:49
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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by Firebird
Quite easy to stack up value when you spend 90% of the round sat on a fence.
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:crymeariver:
As Full Time PA player you should know this isn't the main reason, more focus please!
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2 Dec 2015, 17:22
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Re: R64 predictions
17:11 @MQ • anyone post AD
17:11 @MQ • lol
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2 Dec 2015, 18:18
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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by Hunterrrr
And as for fightclub, p3nguins is the only ally that really attacks with co and all they do is fc co so...
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Funny to see so many FightClub defending Agar...
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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by ReaperSix
Funny to see so many FightClub defending Agar...
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FightClub is Ultores no?
Whats so funny about them defending their own planet
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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by ReaperSix
Funny to see so many FightClub defending Agar...
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Funny to see 3 tags fcing 1 planet....
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2 Dec 2015, 18:54
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Re: R64 predictions
Hunter pal stop making sense.
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2 Dec 2015, 20:51
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Re: R64 predictions
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Funny to see so many FightClub defending Agar...
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No no. They act independently. Just like HR. They arent manipulated or blindly following one egotistical puppet master round after round.
Its all very funny.
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2 Dec 2015, 21:02
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2 Dec 2015, 21:37
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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by Krypton
No no. They act independently. Just like HR. They arent manipulated or blindly following one egotistical puppet master round after round.
Its all very funny.
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So basically what your saying is that forest controls the rest of the universe then? (P3ng, Faceless, BF, ....)
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2 Dec 2015, 21:43
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Re: R64 predictions
Yes thats exactly what I'm saying supercool Hunter man!
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2 Dec 2015, 21:43
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Re: R64 predictions
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Haha
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2 Dec 2015, 22:08
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Re: R64 predictions
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Yes thats exactly what I'm saying supercool Hunter man!
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Well I just applied your logic pal.
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2 Dec 2015, 22:27
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Re: R64 predictions
Ok pals! 3 allies to FC 1 planet! yet you still fail............ How is this even possible?
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2 Dec 2015, 23:12
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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by Krypton
No no. They act independently. Just like HR. They arent manipulated or blindly following one egotistical puppet master round after round.
Its all very funny.
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Theyve hit p3nguins a lot because you simply dont def, and youve said so yourself.
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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
I seriously doubt anyone can control HR, not even their own HCs at time
Theyve hit p3nguins a lot because you simply dont def, and youve said so yourself.
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My gal has succeeded in stopping every wave from HR on us (us meaning the three p3ns ingal) at least three times yet they keep coming...
Please tell me o Oracle what am I doing wrong? Should I stop killing HR value as they crash each time so that they are not filled with lustings for revenge?!?
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3 Dec 2015, 01:11
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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by booji
My gal has succeeded in stopping every wave from HR on us (us meaning the three p3ns ingal) at least three times yet they keep coming...
Please tell me o Oracle what am I doing wrong? Should I stop killing HR value as they crash each time so that they are not filled with lustings for revenge?!?
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Im not HR.
Perhaps your the gal that they cant land, since they think all the others are easier to land than the other options out there?
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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by Clouds
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that was funny
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3 Dec 2015, 02:04
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Re: R64 predictions
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You people always miss the dirty options.
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3 Dec 2015, 02:23
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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by Clouds
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http://game.planetarion.com/bcalc.pl?id=yf7o42qahddao7b (calc with ships from brep, which was pretty much what we expected, we had defending losses slightly above what happend)
It was covered, so don't get all the talk about choosing between ally and planet.
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3 Dec 2015, 04:48
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Re: R64 predictions
Covered?
Looks like Asgard took the bigger hump but what did they matter in an ally race?
In reference to Butcher and the control of hr. I've been lucky enough to be part of an ult block a number of times and also against it. I've always seen hr called on first to support ult which is fine but I do know agares referred to one of their hc as being his bitch that does whatever he says even if they try to play hard to get, so it was unsurprising to see they fight for the cause once again this round.
Im not bothered by it and personally we tried to be friendly with hr for a number of past rounds however if they have to pick a friend it's always ult.
I think the bigger shock for most is seeing CT finally lose their libido for ult humps. This potentially changed the game as we have known it for years.
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3 Dec 2015, 07:20
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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by Munkee
Covered?
Looks like Asgard took the bigger hump but what did they matter in an ally race?
In reference to Butcher and the control of hr. I've been lucky enough to be part of an ult block a number of times and also against it. I've always seen hr called on first to support ult which is fine but I do know agares referred to one of their hc as being his bitch that does whatever he says even if they try to play hard to get, so it was unsurprising to see they fight for the cause once again this round.
Im not bothered by it and personally we tried to be friendly with hr for a number of past rounds however if they have to pick a friend it's always ult.
I think the bigger shock for most is seeing CT finally lose their libido for ult humps. This potentially changed the game as we have known it for years.
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Ok, HR wasn't even in this battle. And I'm not really gonna read through this thread to see what BB said tbh.
But regarding ally win. We were 10 million ahead before the battle... and as we speak now, we are ahead with 9.6 million. So I can't see why we shouldn't have saved our chance of winning planet for that. So yes, it was covered.
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3 Dec 2015, 07:43
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Re: R64 predictions
Defo covered!
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3 Dec 2015, 10:43
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Re: R64 predictions
The lack of movement between ult and Faceless is perhaps because they kicked someone. As a result of which p3n now unexpectedly has a chance to overtake them again.
The gap between p3n and ult was 12.5 mil before, it reduced to 9.2 mil.
Similarly the gap between p3n and FL was 2.4 mil before, it reduced to one mil.
Not sure if p3n is interested in no.2 tho!
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3 Dec 2015, 12:48
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Re: R64 predictions
FL started the round with 40 and midway became a political asylum to former-asgardians. I think their achievements considering this were fine.
P3n seems to only play for fun too, with no serious objectives.
The big disappointment of the round imo was CT which aims for #2 from start. (by Xoca)
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3 Dec 2015, 13:10
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Re: R64 predictions
FL are just about winning based on total rather than counted score atm. Their half way through start seems to have ended a serious impediment. It was always going to be a mountain to climb.
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3 Dec 2015, 13:20
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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by fortran
The big disappointment of the round imo was CT which aims for #2 from start. (by Xoca)
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CT had no intention of going for the win or for #2 from the start.
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3 Dec 2015, 15:10
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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by Adapt
CT had no intention of going for the win or for #2 from the start.
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I think that was made crystal clear once Macen was given power. #Paciftarion #CantHandleMoreThan50Incs
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Re: R64 predictions
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I think that was made crystal clear once Macen was given power. #Paciftarion #CantHandleMoreThan50Incs
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Wernt mace "Rogues" aswell?
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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
Wernt mace "Rogues" aswell?
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Probably why he can make an accurate observation based on past experience.
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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by [B5]Londo
FL are just about winning based on total rather than counted score atm. Their half way through start seems to have ended a serious impediment. It was always going to be a mountain to climb.
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Whilst total score shows a potential number 1, if they were full tag from the start I expect the politics in the round would have been much different and may potentially have put them at a lower rank than they currently are. Alternatively you can just switch the names of FL/Asgard around in current rankings to show how things may have turned out if there wasnt a mass exodus.
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3 Dec 2015, 17:47
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Re: R64 predictions
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Originally Posted by [B5]Londo
The lack of movement between ult and Faceless is perhaps because they kicked someone. As a result of which p3n now unexpectedly has a chance to overtake them again.
The gap between p3n and ult was 12.5 mil before, it reduced to 9.2 mil.
Similarly the gap between p3n and FL was 2.4 mil before, it reduced to one mil.
Not sure if p3n is interested in no.2 tho!
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Nah, Faceless kicked a player who didnt count towards score so it didnt matter.
It is true that it seems like pingu took the least hit of the attackers. Because our main kill came through Rogues, and they sent de and we had less wyvern/peacekeeper. So you could absolutely argue that it was a decent deal for pingu. Doesnt change the fact that, as i showed in the calc it was covered, and we made it with a sustained lead for both planet and ally
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3 Dec 2015, 17:58
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Re: R64 predictions
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I think that was made crystal clear once Macen was given power. #Paciftarion #CantHandleMoreThan50Incs
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Still emo then R6? I never said i couldn't handle the incs i said I couldn't cope with things under our control being the reason for our incs.
Hope you're well glad you came back anyway for what its worth
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Re: R64 predictions
Seems through news some people recalled in the last tick before the FC crashed. I know some were attackers, I won't bother to check if all were on the attackers side. But this probably made the calc better to def.
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Re: R64 predictions
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Nah, Faceless kicked a player who didnt count towards score so it didnt matter.
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Tia left, was not kicked, 8million score when he left and he was in from before the round even ticked.
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Re: R64 predictions
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I think that was made crystal clear once Macen was given power. #Paciftarion #CantHandleMoreThan50Incs
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On this, macen was given the power in CT because he deserved it by staying up every night of the round to dc when none else would hence why he was given Defence HC anyways before he was even promoted CT were having a bad round so you can't blame his promotion.
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Re: R64 predictions
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Tia left, was not kicked, 8million score when he left and he was in from before the round even ticked.
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A player who recalled in the last minute in the Agares' FC was kicked
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Re: R64 predictions
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On this, macen was given the power in CT because he deserved it by staying up every night of the round to dc when none else would hence why he was given Defence HC anyways before he was even promoted CT were having a bad round so you can't blame his promotion.
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Re: R64 predictions
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A player who recalled in the last minute in the Agares' FC was kicked
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so where did Tias score go then?
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Re: R64 predictions
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so where did Tias score go then?
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Tia score was the main factor in the score drop no doubt. And idd he was not kicked. But there were also one kicked, but that one wasn't counting much to score.
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