My friend nearly got shot on tuesday night

[Demon Dave]

Picture the scene: Middle of Salisbury Plain Training Area, A Platoon of Army Cadets complete with Cadet GP rifles and 20 rounds of blank ammunition, Officers in charge

We were carrying out a section attack on the 'enemy' as part of a 3 day field exercise during the week long Annule Camp. It was down to my section to carry out the actual assult while the other two sections laid down covering fire. As we were pepper-potting forward towards the enemy, my friend had to run into the arc of fire of another cadet in the other fire team. He nearly had his leg taken off. Luckily the other cadet was switched on enough to aim off so injuries were avoided, except the enemy, who died.

[ParraCida]

Thank god, that blank bullet might have taken off his leg :/

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[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally posted by ParraCida
Thank god, that blank bullet might have taken off his leg :/

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I was wondering about that, although at close range blank ammunition is still pretty deadly.

But I don't think he was THAT close, from the tale.

[Mirai]

Originally posted by ParraCida
Thank god, that blank bullet might have taken off his leg :/

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Blanks can kill if you get shot at point blank range in the head. The escaping gasses are quite hot and can be deadly.

Just because there isn't a metal slug in there doesn't mean it's harmless.

[Leshy]

How big was this blank bullet exactly, to take off an entire leg on it's own?

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally posted by Mirai
Blanks can kill if you get shot at point blank range in the head. The escaping gasses are quite hot and can be deadly.

Just because there isn't a metal slug in there doesn't mean it's harmless.

Too slow grandpa.

[Nusselt]

Originally posted by Demon Dave
pepper-potting

no idea what it means, but it sounds gay.

[Leshy]

Originally posted by Nusselt
no idea what it means, but it sounds gay.

Isn't that shooting at dummies?

[Nusselt]

Originally posted by Leshy
Isn't that shooting at dummies?

if they're shooting cum and not bullets and those dummies are male 'real dolls' with their mouths wide open, then everything ive ever heard about the army and the army cadets it true.

[ParraCida]

Originally posted by Mirai
Blanks can kill if you get shot at point blank range in the head. The escaping gasses are quite hot and can be deadly.

Just because there isn't a metal slug in there doesn't mean it's harmless.

Well, if its gasses then it would have to be about 10 cm's or something for it to be deadly I figure, since gas would kill by pressure, and if it had some other place to go besides in your head theres no problem really.

[W]

Originally posted by ParraCida
Well, if its gasses then it would have to be about 10 cm's or something for it to be deadly I figure, since gas would kill by pressure, and if it had some other place to go besides in your head theres no problem really.

Some blanks are just cheap plastic, and you can get pieces of this plastic shooting out. the safety distance for the blank ammo we use is 50m or something, and we're told never to aim at anyones head at any distance.

[Gayle29uk]

Originally posted by W
we're told never to aim at anyones head at any distance.

Rule 1: Never point a gun at anyone for any reason unless you intend to kill them.

Hmmm...I feel a new topic coming on.

[cnaw]

Originally posted by Gayle29uk
Rule 1: Never point a gun at anyone for any reason unless you intend to kill them.

Unless you are training with Simunition. (which by the way I am told hurts so bad, that you cry for you mommy) .....


btw, don't military rifles normaly have a attachment that you place on the barrel to catch the paper wads that blanks fire?? I know they have them for the M16.

[Gayle29uk]

Originally posted by cnaw
Unless you are training with Simunition. (which by the way I am told hurts so bad, that you cry for you mommy) .....

The page you linked is blocked by my proxy

Would that be the same sort of thing as LPT rounds?

[cnaw]

Originally posted by Gayle29uk
The page you linked is blocked by my proxy

Would that be the same sort of thing as LPT rounds?

Evul proxy. Its basicly ammo that "leave a detergent-based, water-soluble colour marking compound" when you get hit. AKA paint. But you can fire them out of actuall weapons. (i belive you need a conversion kit because the cartrige is not exactly the same size for safty reasons)

edit:

two more links (erm three)

http://www.snctec.com/about/simunition/simunition.asp
http://www.tetragon.ca/simunition.html
http://www.google.com/search?q=simunition

[NEWSBOT3]

Originally posted by Gayle29uk
The page you linked is blocked by my proxy

Would that be the same sort of thing as LPT rounds?

from the looks of the page they are paintball ammo for real guns.

[Gayle29uk]

Originally posted by NEWSBOT3
from the looks of the page they are paintball ammo for real guns.

That would be a no then

[W]

Originally posted by Gayle29uk
Rule 1: Never point a gun at anyone for any reason unless you intend to kill them.

Hmmm...I feel a new topic coming on.

Actually the rule goes something like "never point a gun at anyone except on an instructors orders". And combat (and simulated combat with blanks) are obviously excepted.

[JammyJim]

The first real gun i ever picked up i pointed straight at my brothers head.


Was a .45 Colt i believe.

i was lectured on how i shouldnt do such a thing.
Wasnt even loaded
However if it had been


BAM

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally posted by JammyJim
The first real gun i ever picked up i pointed straight at my brothers head.


Was a .45 Colt i believe.

i was lectured on how i shouldnt do such a thing.
Wasnt even loaded
However if it had been


BAM

And that's when you realised you wanted to moderate some forums.

[Demon Dave]

to explain a little for the pleebs who don't understand

Pepper-Potting: 1 fire team moves forwards towards the target while the other fire team gives covering fire

Blank Ammuntition: When fired, blank rounds eject hot gases and also little pieces of metle and other crap used to hold the explosives in place. The size of blank ammuntion used by cadets is the NATO standard 5.56mm. Although i may have exagerated the bit about his leg nearly being taken off, if you are hit by a blank round at less than 50m it will really ruin your day, he was at 5m.

Cadet GP: cnaw, yes usually the SA80 is fitted with the blank firing attachment but for some reason the person who modified the SA80 to the Cadet GP decided to leave that option out

on a side note the actual rule regarding pointing a weapon at someone is "Never point or aim a weapon at someone even in jest" although the "unless you intend to kill them" makes more sense

[Mushroom]

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
And that's when you realised you wanted to moderate some forums.

hahaha

[Radical Edward]

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
I was wondering about that, although at close range blank ammunition is still pretty deadly.

But I don't think he was THAT close, from the tale.

reminds me of the US priest or whatever who put a hole in his brain with a blank.

moron.

[Gayle29uk]

Originally posted by Demon Dave
The size of blank ammuntion used by cadets is the NATO standard 5.56mm.

Not if you're using a jimpee it's not

on a side note the actual rule regarding pointing a weapon at someone is "Never point or aim a weapon at someone even in jest" although the "unless you intend to kill them" makes more sense

Of course it makes sense, if you followed the 'official' version we wouldn't have wars...hmmm...maybe the official version is better after all

[Demon Dave]

Originally posted by Gayle29uk
Not if you're using a jimpee it's not

heh my mate on another training board had a load of reg squaddies with jimpees move into his PBH. they decided it would be best not to argue with them

[CrashTester]

Originally posted by Gayle29uk
Rule 1: Never point a gun at anyone for any reason unless you intend to kill them.

Unless its a woman, since it wouldn't do much damage other than a bit of air leakage anyway.