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Unread 15 Sep 2003, 08:39   #1
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Unhappy sweden says no

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to what? saw something bout it on the news....but didnt reazlly pay attention
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to the €

estonia said yes to the EU though, which is at least one good news for today.
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because sweden is part of europe and because of that should be part of the euro?
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because sweden is part of europe and because of that should be part of the euro?
why do you care?
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because i care about the eu?

why do you keep asking stupid questions?
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Unread 15 Sep 2003, 09:14   #8
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because i care about the eu?

why do you keep asking stupid questions?
i think he's asking (though i could be terribly wrong) how does it effect you personaly. and if it doesn't immediately effect you, why do you care? well?
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Well, they ARE Swedish, hence...
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to the €

estonia said yes to the EU though, which is at least one good news for today.

why is that good news?
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estonia said yes to the EU though, which is at least one good news for today.
more eastern european refugees ahoy
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more eastern european refugees ahoy
estonia has the highest economical growth all across europe, they would be stupid to leave.
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because sweden is part of europe and because of that should be part of the euro?
Why should it be part of the Euro if its people don't want to be?

Surely you aren't suggesting forcing everyone in Europe to join the Euro?
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estonia has the highest economical growth all across europe, they would be stupid to leave.
dont be so naive

they now have the freedom to travel anywhere in europe...
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Why should it be part of the Euro if its people don't want to be?

Surely you aren't suggesting forcing everyone in Europe to join the Euro?
he's german :duh:
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Why should it be part of the Euro if its people don't want to be?

Surely you aren't suggesting forcing everyone in Europe to join the Euro?
no, they decided against it and thats it (for a decade or something), but surely i dont have to agree with their choice and can be disappointed about it, cant i?
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Why should it be part of the Euro if its people don't want to be?

Surely you aren't suggesting forcing everyone in Europe to join the Euro?
so, you would move from a booing country to a stagnating country, without a chance of finding a job their?
maybe some will coe to uk, but why should i care?
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no, they decided against it and thats it (for a decade or something), but surely i dont have to agree with their choice and can be disappointed about it, cant i?
But you said that every country in Europe should be in the Euro.

Surely the only countries who should be in the Euro are those that want to be?

I'll put it another way: if they had voted no, but the government was still going to join, would you be happy?
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But you said that every country in Europe should be in the Euro.

Surely the only countries who should be in the Euro are those that want to be?

I'll put it another way: if they had voted no, but the government was still going to join, would you be happy?
i said all countries in europe should join the euro, because i think its best for them and best for europe, both economical and political. this is my personal opinion.
if sweden decides to have a referendum about it and votes against the euro, then so it be.
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i said all countries in europe should join the euro, because i think its best for them and best for europe, both economical and political. this is my personal opinion.
if sweden decides to have a referendum about it and votes against the euro, then so it be.
I don't think you know what's best for people in the UK, Sweden or Denmark.

Long live the £
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i said all countries in europe should join the euro, because i think its best for them and best for europe, both economical and political. this is my personal opinion.
if sweden decides to have a referendum about it and votes against the euro, then so it be.
You know who else wanted to unite all of europe under one rule?
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I'd support joining the euro. It'd save us from that crap pink $20 they're about to release.
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Why is it so that all germans want a united europe? :duh:

Oh, and we are not yet a part of the EU! Horray and so on :duh:
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so, you would move from a booing country to a stagnating country, without a chance of finding a job their?
maybe some will coe to uk, but why should i care?
You didnt say it was booming, you merely said it had the highest growth across europe, which isnt necessarily anything special or worth staying for in this case.

If their economy is worth very little now, reporting a 25% growth for example might make it the fastest growing economy when compared to everyone elses, but at the end of the day 25% of very little may be far outweighed in reality by a German growth rate of say 8%. That is why they wouldn't be mad to leave.
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growthrate in estonia 5.8%
growthrate germany 0.5%
unemployment rates are about the same, so i dont see any reason why anyone from there should come here, in fact i wouldnt be surprised if people from here would move to estonia. (economic growth, transparent goverment, very little burocracy, that is one nice country)
poland for example is different, maybe some people from there come to western europe, but i doubt that will be many.
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Unread 15 Sep 2003, 22:26   #33
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growthrate in estonia 5.8%
growthrate germany 0.5%
unemployment rates are about the same, so i dont see any reason why anyone from there should come here,
From the CIA factbook:

Germany:
GDP - per capita:
purchasing power parity - $26,600 (2002 est.)

Estonia:
GDP - per capita:
purchasing power parity - $10,900 (2002 est.)

That's why an Estonian would want to move to Germany.

As mentioned already growth rates mean very little when you're looking at what country is most desirable to live in.
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Since Estonia(non-EU country) is doing so much better than Germany(founder EU country), doesn't that mean the European Union isn't such a great thing after all, and so we'd all be better off just leaving the EU and following the Estonian route?
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Since Estonia(non-EU country) is doing so much better than Germany(founder EU country), doesn't that mean the European Union isn't such a great thing after all, and so we'd all be better off just leaving the EU and following the Estonian route?
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From the CIA factbook:

Germany:
GDP - per capita:
purchasing power parity - $26,600 (2002 est.)

Estonia:
GDP - per capita:
purchasing power parity - $10,900 (2002 est.)

That's why an Estonian would want to move to Germany.

As mentioned already growth rates mean very little when you're looking at what country is most desirable to live in.
and once theyve lifed here for a few month theyd be running home and most likely take a few germans with them.
there wont be a large invasion of people from eastern europe who want to live in the west. it wont happen. people dont even move here within the country, not to talk about leaving your country to live somewhere else.
and even if they come, there are hardly any jobs here. i dont see any problem whatsoever with the extension of the eu
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Since Estonia(non-EU country) is doing so much better than Germany(founder EU country), doesn't that mean the European Union isn't such a great thing after all, and so we'd all be better off just leaving the EU and following the Estonian route?
as much as id like to blame someone else, but we ruined the country fully on our own.
estonia will strongly prfit out of the common market and will have even more economical growth and so will the rest of the eastern countries.
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as much as id like to blame someone else, but we ruined the country fully on our own.
i blame the euro.

Though wasn't the euro your idea in the first place? :duh:
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