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15 Sep 2003, 08:39
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sweden says no
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15 Sep 2003, 08:43
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to what? saw something bout it on the news....but didnt reazlly pay attention
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15 Sep 2003, 08:51
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to the €
estonia said yes to the EU though, which is at least one good news for today.
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15 Sep 2003, 08:53
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why do you care?
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15 Sep 2003, 08:58
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because sweden is part of europe and because of that should be part of the euro?
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15 Sep 2003, 09:00
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Quote:
Originally posted by wu_trax
because sweden is part of europe and because of that should be part of the euro?
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why do you care?
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15 Sep 2003, 09:02
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because i care about the eu?
why do you keep asking stupid questions?
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15 Sep 2003, 09:14
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Quote:
Originally posted by wu_trax
because i care about the eu?
why do you keep asking stupid questions?
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i think he's asking (though i could be terribly wrong) how does it effect you personaly. and if it doesn't immediately effect you, why do you care? well?
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15 Sep 2003, 09:21
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Well, they ARE Swedish, hence...
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15 Sep 2003, 09:56
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Quote:
Originally posted by wu_trax
to the €
estonia said yes to the EU though, which is at least one good news for today.
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why is that good news?
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15 Sep 2003, 10:13
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Quote:
Originally posted by wu_trax
to the €
estonia said yes to the EU though, which is at least one good news for today.
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more eastern european refugees ahoy
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15 Sep 2003, 10:35
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Quote:
Originally posted by Rommel
more eastern european refugees ahoy
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estonia has the highest economical growth all across europe, they would be stupid to leave.
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15 Sep 2003, 10:39
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Quote:
Originally posted by wu_trax
because sweden is part of europe and because of that should be part of the euro?
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Why should it be part of the Euro if its people don't want to be?
Surely you aren't suggesting forcing everyone in Europe to join the Euro?
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15 Sep 2003, 10:43
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Quote:
Originally posted by wu_trax
estonia has the highest economical growth all across europe, they would be stupid to leave.
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dont be so naive
they now have the freedom to travel anywhere in europe...
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15 Sep 2003, 10:43
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Quote:
Originally posted by Proteus
Why should it be part of the Euro if its people don't want to be?
Surely you aren't suggesting forcing everyone in Europe to join the Euro?
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he's german :duh:
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15 Sep 2003, 10:53
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Quote:
Originally posted by Proteus
Why should it be part of the Euro if its people don't want to be?
Surely you aren't suggesting forcing everyone in Europe to join the Euro?
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no, they decided against it and thats it (for a decade or something), but surely i dont have to agree with their choice and can be disappointed about it, cant i?
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15 Sep 2003, 10:54
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Quote:
Originally posted by Proteus
Why should it be part of the Euro if its people don't want to be?
Surely you aren't suggesting forcing everyone in Europe to join the Euro?
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so, you would move from a booing country to a stagnating country, without a chance of finding a job their?
maybe some will coe to uk, but why should i care?
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15 Sep 2003, 11:24
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Quote:
Originally posted by wu_trax
no, they decided against it and thats it (for a decade or something), but surely i dont have to agree with their choice and can be disappointed about it, cant i?
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But you said that every country in Europe should be in the Euro.
Surely the only countries who should be in the Euro are those that want to be?
I'll put it another way: if they had voted no, but the government was still going to join, would you be happy?
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15 Sep 2003, 11:30
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Quote:
Originally posted by Proteus
But you said that every country in Europe should be in the Euro.
Surely the only countries who should be in the Euro are those that want to be?
I'll put it another way: if they had voted no, but the government was still going to join, would you be happy?
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i said all countries in europe should join the euro, because i think its best for them and best for europe, both economical and political. this is my personal opinion.
if sweden decides to have a referendum about it and votes against the euro, then so it be.
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15 Sep 2003, 11:38
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Quote:
Originally posted by wu_trax
i said all countries in europe should join the euro, because i think its best for them and best for europe, both economical and political. this is my personal opinion.
if sweden decides to have a referendum about it and votes against the euro, then so it be.
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I don't think you know what's best for people in the UK, Sweden or Denmark.
Long live the £
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15 Sep 2003, 11:47
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Originally posted by Rommel
Long live the £
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And the pound sign rocks. The euro sign looks camp.
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15 Sep 2003, 12:24
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15 Sep 2003, 12:25
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Quote:
Originally posted by wu_trax
i said all countries in europe should join the euro, because i think its best for them and best for europe, both economical and political. this is my personal opinion.
if sweden decides to have a referendum about it and votes against the euro, then so it be.
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You know who else wanted to unite all of europe under one rule?
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15 Sep 2003, 13:05
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I'd support joining the euro. It'd save us from that crap pink $20 they're about to release.
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15 Sep 2003, 13:11
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Why is it so that all germans want a united europe? :duh:
Oh, and we are not yet a part of the EU! Horray and so on :duh:
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15 Sep 2003, 13:16
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Quote:
Originally posted by Nodrog
You know who else wanted to unite all of europe under one rule?
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Is this a troll I see before me?
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15 Sep 2003, 13:39
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no, its just a **** poster
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15 Sep 2003, 13:53
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No you didn't
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15 Sep 2003, 14:51
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Quote:
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You know who else wanted to unite all of europe under one rule?
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JESUS???
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15 Sep 2003, 15:25
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Quote:
Originally posted by wu_trax
so, you would move from a booing country to a stagnating country, without a chance of finding a job their?
maybe some will coe to uk, but why should i care?
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You didnt say it was booming, you merely said it had the highest growth across europe, which isnt necessarily anything special or worth staying for in this case.
If their economy is worth very little now, reporting a 25% growth for example might make it the fastest growing economy when compared to everyone elses, but at the end of the day 25% of very little may be far outweighed in reality by a German growth rate of say 8%. That is why they wouldn't be mad to leave.
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15 Sep 2003, 16:30
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growthrate in estonia 5.8%
growthrate germany 0.5%
unemployment rates are about the same, so i dont see any reason why anyone from there should come here, in fact i wouldnt be surprised if people from here would move to estonia. (economic growth, transparent goverment, very little burocracy, that is one nice country)
poland for example is different, maybe some people from there come to western europe, but i doubt that will be many.
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15 Sep 2003, 17:12
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Estonia is in democracy division 2
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15 Sep 2003, 22:26
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Re: sweden says no
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Originally posted by wu_trax
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yeah people here are shiet
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15 Sep 2003, 22:36
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Originally posted by wu_trax
growthrate in estonia 5.8%
growthrate germany 0.5%
unemployment rates are about the same, so i dont see any reason why anyone from there should come here,
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From the CIA factbook:
Germany:
GDP - per capita:
purchasing power parity - $26,600 (2002 est.)
Estonia:
GDP - per capita:
purchasing power parity - $10,900 (2002 est.)
That's why an Estonian would want to move to Germany.
As mentioned already growth rates mean very little when you're looking at what country is most desirable to live in.
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15 Sep 2003, 22:42
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Since Estonia(non-EU country) is doing so much better than Germany(founder EU country), doesn't that mean the European Union isn't such a great thing after all, and so we'd all be better off just leaving the EU and following the Estonian route?
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15 Sep 2003, 22:59
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jammers
Since Estonia(non-EU country) is doing so much better than Germany(founder EU country), doesn't that mean the European Union isn't such a great thing after all, and so we'd all be better off just leaving the EU and following the Estonian route?
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Read ChubbyChecker's post.
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15 Sep 2003, 23:06
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Quote:
Originally posted by ChubbyChecker
From the CIA factbook:
Germany:
GDP - per capita:
purchasing power parity - $26,600 (2002 est.)
Estonia:
GDP - per capita:
purchasing power parity - $10,900 (2002 est.)
That's why an Estonian would want to move to Germany.
As mentioned already growth rates mean very little when you're looking at what country is most desirable to live in.
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and once theyve lifed here for a few month theyd be running home and most likely take a few germans with them.
there wont be a large invasion of people from eastern europe who want to live in the west. it wont happen. people dont even move here within the country, not to talk about leaving your country to live somewhere else.
and even if they come, there are hardly any jobs here. i dont see any problem whatsoever with the extension of the eu
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15 Sep 2003, 23:07
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jammers
Since Estonia(non-EU country) is doing so much better than Germany(founder EU country), doesn't that mean the European Union isn't such a great thing after all, and so we'd all be better off just leaving the EU and following the Estonian route?
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as much as id like to blame someone else, but we ruined the country fully on our own.
estonia will strongly prfit out of the common market and will have even more economical growth and so will the rest of the eastern countries.
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15 Sep 2003, 23:46
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as much as id like to blame someone else, but we ruined the country fully on our own.
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i blame the euro.
Though wasn't the euro your idea in the first place? :duh:
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