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22 May 2003, 14:32
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[F.E.A.R.]
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To save time later on
Can we all agree that round 9.5 doesn't count as an official round before it even starts, so we don't get 2 months of debate from the winning alliance as to why it did matter and why they won a round just as much as everyone else has in the past?
Hopefully this could make alliances less desparate to win at all costs, if they know their win won't be valued much by the community. We could end up with most alliances playing solo and for 'fun' since they won't want to burn any bridges that they may need for round 10 (the next real round), or upset people with dodgy tactics.
To a lot of people this is common sense, but this is just 'putting it down on paper'.
So, would you all happen to agree?
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22 May 2003, 14:34
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you're such a fag scouse :/
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22 May 2003, 14:35
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yes, to both the above comments
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22 May 2003, 14:36
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Sure, playing for fun is the way to go anyways
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22 May 2003, 14:37
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heh
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22 May 2003, 14:39
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Imposter?
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As I've said somewhere else, would be a damn good time for everyone to try out going solo.
I reckon we need a slogan...
Try it, you just might like it !
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22 May 2003, 15:06
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i always play to win :]
but not at every cost...
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22 May 2003, 15:17
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Its not an official full round (but dont tell former nar/vom block alliances that as they will try to disagree with you as they want their gay fun)
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22 May 2003, 15:22
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Have D|ck Done Travell
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Location: Canada
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dreadnought!
Its not an official full round (but dont tell former nar/vom block alliances that as they will try to disagree with you as they want their gay fun)
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well as the saying goes if you dont have something intelligent to say dont say it at all. Oh Wait then Dreadnought would be a mute.
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22 May 2003, 15:23
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alliances are not dooing everything they can to win... theyr not blocking wich is the most importan thing in most eyes i think.
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22 May 2003, 15:51
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Scouse, we at SpaceHamsters intend on agreeing with your notion entirely. Blocking in a half-round (all be it a valid tactic) is totally ridiculous and we feel that our members would enjoy a more 'independent' round, it at all possible.
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22 May 2003, 15:56
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Join Date: Jul 2000
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pffft
lame
Alliance that wins 9.5 will go into the books as half a winner
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22 May 2003, 16:08
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Governor
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Quote:
Originally posted by Scorpio
Alliance that wins 9.5 will go into the books as half a winner
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Someone's been getting additional help with their maths \o/
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22 May 2003, 16:33
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I think it should count as much as anything.
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22 May 2003, 16:36
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Imposter?
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Quote:
Originally posted by mens
I think it should count as much as anything.
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Was it predicatable that Wolfpack would go all out for the 'win' or what?
(I assume by being "Rabba's little lap dog" and in a Dragons galaxy you are WP btw)
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22 May 2003, 16:38
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Imposter?
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dreadnought!
Its not an official full round (but dont tell former nar/vom block alliances that as they will try to disagree with you as they want their gay fun)
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Bit of a tit really aren't you?
The majority of those former nar/vom block alliances are the ones leading the calls for going solo. If going solo is gay fun, can we assume that you'll be playing the round totally alone?
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22 May 2003, 16:44
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Quote:
Originally posted by Maddix
The majority of those former nar/vom block alliances are the ones leading the calls for going solo.
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22 May 2003, 16:47
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I don't see why a victory in r9.5 shouldn't be something to be proud of. However I think that the problems with PA have less to do with 'winning at all costs' than 'not losing at all costs'. Alliances block because they don't want to be beaten by someone else after paying their $10. In a free round, especially a 'non-serious' one, the fear of losing is much less, so alliances have much less of a reason to use politics to save their arses.
The winners will have a right to be proud, but hopefully the losers won't whine quite so much as they normally do.
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22 May 2003, 16:50
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Imposter?
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Quote:
Originally posted by K03N
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RaH and Olympians were the first two to state they would go alone, afaik Eclipse and ToT will be allied and it will amaze me to see WP and Ely alone, so that leaves the rest as 'former nar/vom block members' or new alliances does it not?
I assume you are laughing cos you are retarded in that case, either that or mocking Dreadn00b and quoted the wrong thing.
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22 May 2003, 16:52
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Quote:
Originally posted by Maddix
RaH and Olympians were the first two to state they would go alone, afaik Eclipse and ToT will be allied and it will amaze me to see WP and Ely alone, so that leaves the rest as 'former nar/vom block members' or new alliances does it not?
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Eclipse and ToT are solo (ToT posted an announcement of this a few days ago). WP and Ely split a few weeks ago.
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22 May 2003, 16:54
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Quote:
Originally posted by Maddix
Was it predicatable that Wolfpack would go all out for the 'win' or what?
(I assume by being "Rabba's little lap dog" and in a Dragons galaxy you are WP btw)
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There is such a thing as a "personal opinion":eek:
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22 May 2003, 16:56
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Imposter?
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Location: UK / Canada
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Quote:
Originally posted by ComradeRob
Eclipse and ToT are solo (ToT posted an announcement of this a few days ago). WP and Ely split a few weeks ago.
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22 May 2003, 16:56
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dreadnought!
Its not an official full round (but dont tell former nar/vom block alliances that as they will try to disagree with you as they want their gay fun)
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22 May 2003, 16:58
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Quote:
Originally posted by mens
I think it should count as much as anything.
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I'd have to agree.
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22 May 2003, 17:16
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dreadnought!
Its not an official full round (but dont tell former nar/vom block alliances that as they will try to disagree with you as they want their gay fun)
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Would that be because u know that 50% of the universe will be wanting some revenge and so you might not win?:eek:
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22 May 2003, 17:20
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Quote:
Originally posted by Maddix
Apologises then, haven't been around that much last few weeks. Hardly leading the way tho isn't it
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If you haven't been around, why did you comment on something that you would blatently know nothing about?? Just as a point of interes
Oh, and to Rob - your point about not losing at all costs - well, in a slightly different way, if alliances don't play for the fun side, then everyone could well end up being the losers anyway, it is just whether or not they see that themselves.
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22 May 2003, 17:28
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Quote:
Originally posted by K03N
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well, hes right.
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22 May 2003, 17:34
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Quote:
Originally posted by Colt
Would that be because u know that 50% of the universe will be wanting some revenge and so you might not win?:eek:
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ofc he will win - planets are free next round
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22 May 2003, 17:41
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I dont see why 9.5 should be 'worth' less than any other round we played.
Comparing it to round 8 is just wank.
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22 May 2003, 17:43
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Retired
Join Date: Feb 2001
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The "winners" of r9.5 will be as unofficial as the "winners" of round 8.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it Scouse.
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22 May 2003, 17:46
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cochese
The "winners" of r9.5 will be as unofficial as the "winners" of round 8.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it Scouse.
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22 May 2003, 17:49
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cochese
The "winners" of r9.5 will be as unofficial as the "winners" of round 8.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it Scouse.
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That's about as stinging as belly-flopping of the top board
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22 May 2003, 18:06
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Imposter?
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bashar
If you haven't been around, why did you comment on something that you would blatently know nothing about?? Just as a point of interes
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Cos I know who was leading the way in going solo for R9.5 onwards? Seeing as that was done while I was around.
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22 May 2003, 18:29
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Quote:
Originally posted by Maddix
Was it predicatable that Wolfpack would go all out for the 'win' or what?
(I assume by being "Rabba's little lap dog" and in a Dragons galaxy you are WP btw)
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what the hell are you talking about?
(see Colt's reply btw)
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22 May 2003, 18:31
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Imposter?
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Quote:
Originally posted by mens
what the hell are you talking about?
(see Colt's reply btw)
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If you can't follow a thread why bother posting on it?
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R4: Fx9/Wolfpack
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22 May 2003, 18:42
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Quote:
Originally posted by mens
what the hell are you talking about?
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What he's suggesting is that alliances shouldn't play to win - at least not to win 'at all costs' as they have in the past, involving making blocks and using politics to win the round. So, he disapproves of you (WP) wanting to 'win' r9.5, because he thinks that the 'win at all costs' attitude will probably appear again.
My personal opinion is this: it's a game. If you enjoy it, then you've 'won'. If you don't enjoy it, go do something else.
I hope that the idea of alliances playing solo does work, though I do anticipate certain alliances being more heavily targetted than others . I actually look forward to having a tougher test than r9, and to those who want 'revenge' I can only say "bring it on"
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22 May 2003, 18:55
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Quote:
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If you can't follow a thread why bother posting on it?
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I don't see why r9.5 shouldn't count as any other round.
(I agree with the attempt to have a blockfree round and bringing back the "fun" again without "win-at-all-costs" mentalities.)
I think we can have a fun round without blocks. No need to write down on paper that this is an unofficial sub-round where peeps can go "I don't care about this round, let the noobs play, everybody knows I'm leet anyways" etc.etc.
biatch.
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22 May 2003, 18:59
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NewDawn pe0n
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Did I mention that I'm in love with mens?
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22 May 2003, 19:02
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let's do this in pm fs!!
(I've told you that before, haven't I?)
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22 May 2003, 19:23
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NewDawn pe0n
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I would if you told me where you are hiding on irc nowadays, don't see you on any of the chans where I usually see you
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22 May 2003, 19:46
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cochese
The "winners" of r9.5 will be as unofficial as the "winners" of round 8.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it Scouse.
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22 May 2003, 20:02
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*yawn*
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Quote:
Originally posted by ComradeRob
My personal opinion is this: it's a game. If you enjoy it, then you've 'won'.
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I won 3 rounds, yay me \o/
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22 May 2003, 20:35
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cochese
The "winners" of r9.5 will be as unofficial as the "winners" of round 8.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it Scouse.
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I'd agree if r9.5 was 4-5 times longer ...
good 'attempt' though (if you can even call it that).
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22 May 2003, 20:47
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Quote:
Originally posted by Psi_K
I'd agree if r9.5 was 4-5 times longer ...
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How long will it be? About as long as a piece of string?
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22 May 2003, 20:57
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So if i get #1 planet does that mean all my work was for nothing?
I think r9.5 should be rated as much as any other, if were all gonna play it we may as well make it a worthwhile fight! Or should l let my planet rot waiting for r10...?
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ultramar
So if i get #1 planet does that mean all my work was for nothing?
I think r9.5 should be rated as much as any other, if were all gonna play it we may as well make it a worthwhile fight! Or should l let my planet rot waiting for r10...?
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THe alliance(s) that wins will consider it a proper round.
The alliance(s) that lose will say it wasn't.
No "agreement" will change this.
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Turning the argument around a little, considering that 'everyone' is going solo shouldn't the winner of 9.5 be considered MORE worthy for having won a round alone?
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22 May 2003, 21:41
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Quote:
Originally posted by SYMM
THe alliance(s) that wins will consider it a proper round.
The alliance(s) that lose will say it wasn't.
No "agreement" will change this.
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Unless they all agree beforehand and then if anyone changes their mind they'll look like a right twat (more so than is usual on AD that is). Which was kind of the point of this thread I'd dare say. It's up to individuals to decide how much they want it to mean to them. Some alliances are taking 9.5 as a break from the stress of running an alliance day to day for 3 months non-stop. It's a bit of a stop-gap measure admittedly, but then again so was round nine and nobody's claimed that doesn't count yet.
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