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Unread 29 May 2005, 21:20   #1
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Top 3 Alliances this round

Just to sum it up- please tell me if im really way off, or if you mostly agree with this top3:

1- Exilition - fought hard and played well
2- Fencesitters
3- Fencesitters
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Unread 29 May 2005, 21:27   #2
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Re: Top 3 Alliances this round

do you mean alliances such as 1up and lch are fencesitters?
or do you mean the current #2 and #2 alliances?
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The latter.
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omg again topic about the same, you are pathetic as most of the posters here, nowhere have ever seen so many fags, all just bitching for everything and flaming, and taking everything so personally, these AD are biggest shit in PA, i regret that i wasted my time reading here.
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Re: Top 3 Alliances this round

#1 - eXilition - fought very hard and played very well.
#2 - NoS - very disappointed that from my point of view, they abandoned us against a superior enemy.
#3 - Angels - again, can be annoying from my point of view, but they have tiptoed the line quite well and successfully avoided getting the incs. A combination of luck and the ability to play well and keep up good roidgains justifies a high position. Same for NoS.

My personal top 3 alliances (not in any particular order):
#1: eXilition - nigh unstoppable, one of the best alliances I've ever had the honour to fight. I just hope there isn't particularly widespread cheating.

#2: ToT - kept bouncing back and bouncing back despite many nights of big roidloss. I tip my hat to you.

#3: 1up - solid and reliable allies as always, with excellent MOs and members. It has been an honour to fight alongside you, and it is to your great credit that you're still kicking despite having an exceptionally difficult round.

Also, special notes about LCH who impressed me more this round, they showed more spine and combined it with good gameplay. Also to those in my own alliance who kept playing despite the level of incs... and to Veneratio for their great improvement this round.
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Unread 29 May 2005, 22:50   #7
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My personal favourites:

1) eX at the start of the round when we shattered 1up's dreams to finish yet another round on the top position. The level of activity at that time astonished me really and a lot of other people who, when their own alliance lacked the skill and dedication, tried to find certain other reasons for our success. After that the round pretty much stagnated for me, heh. Haven't recieved any serious incomings for weeks..
2) 1up for fighting on even after they lost the war and giving us by far the most incoming fleets in this round.
3) LCH who have been underrated by a lot of people. Flamed by everyone for being eX muppets, although we launch all our attacks at the same time and try to keep our enemies busy 24/7 while 1up used a bit different tactic of organizing huge sinnd/veneratio waves before sending their own shippies in the morning. Still a hard and well-fought round for LCH and the ely core.
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omg again topic about the same, you are pathetic as most of the posters here, nowhere have ever seen so many fags, all just bitching for everything and flaming, and taking everything so personally, these AD are biggest shit in PA, i regret that i wasted my time reading here.
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My personal favourites:

1) eX at the start of the round when we shattered 1up's dreams to finish yet another round on the top position. The level of activity at that time astonished me really and a lot of other people who, when their own alliance lacked the skill and dedication, tried to find certain other reasons for our success. After that the round pretty much stagnated for me, heh. Haven't recieved any serious incomings for weeks..
Shattered dreams is a bit of an exaggeration. I agree that the lack of other enemies has probably left EX in a bit of a situation. Dug yourself into that one.

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2) 1up for fighting on even after they lost the war and giving us by far the most incoming fleets in this round.


EX have put up a great fight. If we were going to lose, it had to be to an alliance like yours.

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3) LCH who have been underrated by a lot of people.
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Flamed by everyone for being eX muppets, although we launch all our attacks at the same time and try to keep our enemies busy 24/7 while 1up used a bit different tactic of organizing huge sinnd/veneratio waves before sending their own shippies in the morning. Still a hard and well-fought round for LCH and the ely core.
Not quite a truism.

LCH haven't been EX muppets because they've been flak, but they have been muppets because they've gained very little from their cooperation in terms of success. They're ranked lower at the moment than when they faught 1up on their own last round.

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Unread 29 May 2005, 22:58   #10
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Re: Top 3 Alliances this round

Hmmmm.
I dunno about all the alliance stuff.
But I have to say good job 1up, being targetted so heavy, still playing with the same amount of spirit, still attacking, deffending, ... where most of the alliances would have given up. They fought a lost cause, but did it with honour and are still doing it well. Congrats on you fellows
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Re: Top 3 Alliances this round

The top 3 alliances this round in no particular order:
  • eXilition

    For dominating round 13 in any way.
  • 1up

    For never giving up, not even in a lost war.
  • Angels

    For sneaking into #2 ranking with rather smart politics.
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Re: Top 3 Alliances this round

Its hard to pick out a top 3 for me to be honest, as much of my attention has focused on the war.

Thank you to the alliances that have joined in, i think you'll agree that despite our universe rank, we had a lot of fun

Its been a particularly tough round, but as far as the war goes, I would have to say watch this space at the moment; you never know what might happen next round. One thing is for sure - Its gonna be an interesting battle.
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1up used a bit different tactic of organizing huge sinnd/veneratio waves before sending their own shippies in the morning.
This is wrong. 1up never sent anybody ahead of us. Throughout the rounds, we have taken targets like everyone else, and hit our own, only recently have multiple alliances started hitting the same targets, and alliance is not a factor on who launches when. Earlier on, we tended to all launch together where possible. We were always able to tell allies when we were launching, if they were launching earlier, then that was their choice. 1up was not dictating what other allies would do.
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Re: Top 3 Alliances this round

I keep seeing exilition members saying they won because of their massive activity and member quality etc. etc. Personally, I don't agree with this. I am not in any way saying that is there, as I simply don't know if it is. From my point of view, exilition is winning purely because of their HC. Politically, exilition have played this round tremendously. I don't like it, cos we're on the receiving round, but I think that the politics is what won exilition the round. That is not taking anything away from them this round, as politics is as much a part of the game as anything else, but I do think their success this round is down to the HC's politics rather than any other factor.
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1) EX
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NoS. Coming back after an abysmal round 12.
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NoS. Coming back after an abysmal round 12.
and napping 8 out of 10 top10 alliances... gj..
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NoS. Coming back after an abysmal round 12.
Sorry Kargool but i am sure i am not alone when i say i stil rank SiNND and 1up as having better rounds than NoS despite what rankings say :/
Ditching the SiNND/1up guys and napping 90% of rest was pretty cowardly considering the war going on at the time. Imho maybe you could have made a to results if youd have stayed and fought at time
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NoS. Coming back after an abysmal round 12.
nos in round 13 is shamefull
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I am not so shocked. Dingo would offer galaxy naps to XeTa gals during R6 too, if they promised not to hit WP/NoS :P
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1) EXilition : by far best alliance this round, military wise and politics
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Exilition are certainly the best alliance of the round. It needed somone with their dedication and ability to beat 1up. 1up would have struggled to win this round anyways due to insane amount of targetting, but as we should all well know receiving huge amounts of incoming is a political failure. Sometimes they are inevitable due to past actions but maybe that means past actions should have been more deeply considered. It's a funny old game isn't it?

As for the rest ToT have impressed me greatly and Angels have played an intelligent round. Everyone else performed at or below what I expected (within reasonable margins).
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1) EXilition : by far best alliance this round, military wise and politics
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We value ur miserable reply.

edit: But yes they are winners this round
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We value ur miserable reply.
He does have a valid point (however well disguised it is) in that in a war game, winning isn't everything, it's the only thing (presuming you play within the rules). Of course this would mean that if angels (just an example for the love of god guys don't kill me please ) recruited past them in the last day they would have been outplayed and would no longer be the best alliance, which is an argument I'm sure many people would disagree with.
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what my respect goes to this round in a lil order.

1) EXilition : For defending against every single attack I ever made on them with about 10 different ppl every time within 5 mins of launching and for making me very high ranked for most lost roids this round
2) 1up : I was going to join 1up this round but wasnt allowed(due to galaxy members) and stayed with beloved SiN(till a week before they merged with ND) And my urge to join them has gotten stronger this round after seeing them take such a beating to 10th place to keep on at it and carry on climbing back up them ranks.
3) HR: I don't think ppl have really noticed them tbh due to being 3rd place then suddenly 10th but when I left SiN and joined HR when they was around 6th or 7th, i dont care what anyone says there an excellent alliance who defended well and had brilliant well organised attacks and have the best points system and bot i have seen yet . I am sorry to leave HR when I did but I do count them in 3rd place above the others for there constant winning attitude even when the big players leave and make it look bad in sandmans

Respect to all of the above.

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He does have a valid point (however well disguised it is) in that in a war game, winning isn't everything, it's the only thing (presuming you play within the rules). Of course this would mean that if angels (just an example for the love of god guys don't kill me please ) recruited past them in the last day they would have been outplayed and would no longer be the best alliance, which is an argument I'm sure many people would disagree with.

You never know the Angels might kill all them exil ziks and that could play good on the old catch up
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judging by your attitude your very bad winners
well when people are being bad losers (not saying that you are personally) they probably think they have every right to be.
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This is how I see it
eX wtfpwned everyone obviously

and well WP was absolute(ly) fun this round
Everyone knew it was just a matter of time before they would drop

I will remember ToF this round tho..
They have taken a huge step forward; from Muppets to Puppets
They did well

and where the fk did NoS came from in the rankings.. gg NoS

1up and LCH their old vendetta killed eachother..
They were bound to lose bcz of this and everyone knew it
They still pwn tho
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I am considering offering an award for 'unsung hero' award at the end of the round.

ToF will certainly be on my list. No nominations to my inbox please, I'm thinking about it.

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My favourites for this round:

1)exilition for outplaying everyone (provided this wasn't down to mass cheating)
2)1up for still hanging in there dispite being heavily targetted

On a side note, is it just me, or does all the exilition posters have a single red blob for reputation
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I am considering offering an award for 'unsung hero' award at the end of the round.

ToF will certainly be on my list. No nominations to my inbox please, I'm thinking about it.

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Umm i think tbh ToT have acheived a lot more returning to pa with a smaller loyal memberbase and achieving what they have. If will be a crime if they dont finish top ten, but at current rate i dont se them not. ToF would get second place in that competition for such a fast improvement over the last 2 rounds or so.
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1) EXilition : For defending against every single attack I ever made on them with about 10 different ppl every time within 5 mins of launching and for making me very high ranked for most lost roids this round
Funny that I don't remember anyone covered with that many fleets. Sure there might be some but I very much doubt it. It's quite rare if that happens. Most of the time I cover def-calls alone and I'm hardly the biggest guy around. I see many def-calls each day and usually they are covered with 1-3 fleets.
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Funny that I don't remember anyone covered with that many fleets. Sure there might be some but I very much doubt it. It's quite rare if that happens. Most of the time I cover def-calls alone and I'm hardly the biggest guy around. I see many def-calls each day and usually they are covered with 1-3 fleets.
I wish it was just 1-3 fleets then maybe I would calc it
Only time its not is when number 1 player sends :P
I am sure hes stalking me.
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No he just wants your ships
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I put NoS's success down to their merger with TFD
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On a side note, is it just me, or does all the exilition posters have a single red blob for reputation
That is because we get neg-repped just for posting. (for exp i said my favorite 3 alliance names of pa history on the thread based around that and was neg-reped)

However I have a green dot!! (i'm sure now though i'll get mass neg-repped )

Um top 3:
eXilition - Biased and well I think we handled the round quite well.
1up - Despite their AD bash tactics these guys know how to play the game.
SiN - nope not SiNND just SiN reason being they know their goals and will achieve them.
noah02 - for being the best damn friend this pa player has had over these long years

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Top 3 Alliances this ro... 30 May 2005 17:34 SiN had as goal to merge with ND? No
I sure doubt that was a goal but who says it has to be to do it? I'm sure the merge was more like a step to achieve a goal.
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On a side note, is it just me, or does all the exilition posters have a single red blob for reputation

i dont \o/

p.s wonder how long it is till some funny guy neg reps me :P
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In no order in particular:

Ex: Most dedicated and skilled group I have had the honor to play with in any game. To get a good idea why we did so good, just read following irc log, featuring one of our HC:s in action: log

1up: Never given up, although especially their start was not too easy. Special recognition of annoyance goes to mazzelaar.

LCH: Left me with very good impression of themselves, had rough time but bounced back. Also, their scanners rock.

ToT: Fine alliance with nice activity and fighting spirit. Their average score reveals a lot.

Angels: Fencesitting or not, fine round by any means. Their decision to withdraw from the block war probably prolonged the war, thus preventing the round stagnating too early. We will never know obviously.

Sin,Nd,Veneratio,Tof,Wp(except Hydra), HR, and any other alliances that consider themselves our enemies, thanks for making the round interesting.
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in my eyes EX will never be as good as 1up
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1. Ministry - For not playing.
2. Exiliton - For having bots playing for em.
3. 1up - For defending against each other. And hc's condoning newb bashing!
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you got poor eyesight then cabron. Get contacts or glasses mate!!
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noah02 - for being the best damn friend this pa player has had over these long years
I know
Just feels weird now we both in a different alliancess on different sides of a war.
Got to be the first round ever we have had to probs defend against each other

p.s you happy I paid and forced you to play yet lol.
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Move to the other side of the war. it will give me an excuse to hit u
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p.s you happy I paid and forced you to play yet lol.
I think I curse you at least once a day for making me play again. lol

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2. Exiliton - For having bots playing for em.
Not that this is true at all, but I think your annimosity is more torwards the fact that Fury couldn't win even while cheating.
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1-EXiltion I dont care how the played, they played well nevertheless, they did the job. They won. Well done guys. I hope to see you rnd 14 for some fun.

2-SiNND I am in a prodominatly SiNND gal, and saw how the planets were becoming unmotivated before the merge, however the merge put a spirit and fight into its members again. It was nice to see, and it made the round a bit more interesting again, with ex and angels getting worried all of a sudden.

3-Wolfpack They have a good heart, and are a good alliance, unfortunately they accepted a bg which reminds me of a certain other bg wp had back in the day which well screwed over wp ultimately*

I would of added Angels. As one of the few fans of Angels here, I liked some of there members and HC and enjoyed watching them play. However ultimatly they have had an easy ride. They have effectively fencesat there way to the top. And after recruting some hydra members to try and push themselves up the ranks (whilst not actually getting there by attacking the alliance above them etc) the opinion of Angels went down in my books. However I still regard them as a very good alliance, and hopefully with a few things sorted out next round they will be even better and even better competition.**

Finally 1up would be there in my opinion, but as Im 1up, I wont rub my own epenis. I will say however its been a damn fun round. Unlike other allies, the members of 1up didnt lose morale, with the guidance of HC and the attitude of the members we still in my opinion continue to be the biggest threat to most big planets, with our attacks having a certain bite in them and our defence still being as good as ever. Kudos to the HC and members.

Lastly a special mention should go out to all alliances, without the increased amount of alliances playing and the competition that we have seen this round pa could be seen as though it was dying, however the revival is continuing and hopefully the player base will only continue to grow as will alliances.***

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** Once again my view, I think Angels played well, but let themselves down politically :/
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Yes, like all the other exil & 1up-ers wanking each other off, exil and 1up were the best alliances this round. KCH gained some respect for the hordes they lost during the past 2 rounds for me atleast for their continued resilience, similar to 1up's though not facing the same extent of targetting but admirable nevertheless.

Special mentions must go to ToF for roiding me consecutively daily whilst being allied to me (whilst the 30 other waves in the space of 2-3 days from hostiles didn't manage to land heh), and ofcourse NoS and Angels, for showing how proving how having fun by challenging yourself(signed up 400 ticks late and went as cath :>) and sucking:/ is inevitably better than playing it easy and still losing (if you're not #1, you've lost.)
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Heh, ToF roided me twice in 2 days while being allied to me, too... bad habit they have!
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1) 1up - under heavy fire but still keep up the fight
2) LCH - pretty much the same but is it only me or has the activity dropped a bit lately?
3) ToT - ranking doesn't tell it all, look at their average score and member count

Exilition not mentioned cause we already got the credit for it.
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For all those whining about politics political decisions make or break your round as an alliance. Call them fencesitters if you want, but at the end of the day they must have had something right to finish so highly.

As for Ex I do wish people would stop complaining. YOU LOST THEY WON GET OVER IT!

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