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Unread 24 Dec 2006, 04:11   #1
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Serious skin issue

There is a real problem with the new skin template:
the images for the left menu all vary in height, from 16 to 19 pixels. It makes it impossible (or a real pain in the butt) to create something consistent. Is there any way you can correct that ?
All the "menu_..." images with the same height would help a lot.
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Re: Serious skin issue

The images has always been that way for some skins, though most are consistent in height around 13-14px.
Nothing of that is any "problems" of such though, as it becomes rather irrelevant to any skins you make, as the height is purely something you decide.
The image sizes aren't restricted in the menu, the only thing that's still restricted,
is table top and bottom, which is still at 625px width.
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Unread 25 Dec 2006, 01:47   #3
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Re: Serious skin issue

I've designed about 6 skins with the old template without noticing any problem. I tried to design one with the new template and I see the menu all ****ed up...
I agree a difference of 1 pixel wasn't probably noticeable, but this time we're talking of some images with 15 pix (menu_manual) and others with 19 pix (menu_overview) and in between images with 16, 17 or 18 pix.
13 to 14 pix was the old template.
Just make all the images 18 pix (or whatever), problem solved... is that difficult to do ?
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Re: Serious skin issue

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Just make all the images 18 pix (or whatever), problem solved... is that difficult to do ?
While I agree that it's pretty silly to have all images of varying height, you do realise that you can set the image height yourself, right?
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Re: Serious skin issue

That's theory. In real if your images are smaller than the original size, they appear all messed up, on top of each other in the menu. If your images are bigger than the original size, they're cropped.

After checking the new template coding, it seems the problem comes from the CSS where the height for each menu image (or is it the cell size) is set at a precise size (different for each...). It could also come from the fact that the menu images are set as cells background instead of normal images.
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Re: Serious skin issue

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After checking the new template coding, it seems the problem comes from the CSS where the height for each menu image (or is it the cell size) is set at a precise size (different for each...).
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Just edit the CSS file to give the proper dimensions for the menu images you are using.
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Re: Serious skin issue

It will work only if there is one CSS for each skin...
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Re: Serious skin issue

That is the whole idea though, every skin has it's own css.
They did before the layout changes as well, however there's a few more things possible now.
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Re: Serious skin issue

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They did before the layout changes as well, however there's a few more things possible now.
Only in theory, really. The HTML is still one big pile of tag soup, which means that you'll need to go to such horrible lengths in terms of CSS muckery, that you'll more than likely break Internet Explorer.
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Re: Serious skin issue

You're not wrong Leshy.

The html code is pretty messy, badly formed and extremely bloated. Its also a table layout, which isn't necessary these days.

Changing something like the skin/html system is rather difficult without a recode I expect. If the game used some sort of php templates (when rewritten) it'd be a lot easier.
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Re: Serious skin issue

The major issue why a rewrite is a lot of work is because the HTML is apparently generated through a multitude of files, and rewriting it would pretty much bork all the current templates which would need to be fixed.

I've already put in a number of suggestions which hopefully will be addressed, which should improve at least a few aspects of customization - of course a full and proper rewrite seperating markup and style has my preference, but hey.
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