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Alliance Statistics - Round 46

Well, with a repeat of last time, slightly more depth ...

sorted by name:
Code:
+----------------------+---------+------------+------------+-----------+-----------+------------+---------------+----------+---------+
| name                 | members | real_score | real_value | real_incs | fake_incs | total_incs | incs_recalled | ally_def | gal_def |
+----------------------+---------+------------+------------+-----------+-----------+------------+---------------+----------+---------+
| 1up                  |       1 |    1620188 |    1411328 |        37 |         0 |         37 |            10 |        0 |      10 |
| A-Team               |       1 |     442965 |     273705 |         5 |         1 |          6 |             1 |        0 |       2 |
| AFCA                 |       1 |    1505257 |    1042117 |        29 |         0 |         29 |             1 |        0 |       7 |
| an Ode to Myself     |       1 |    3484837 |    2747197 |        48 |         0 |         48 |            30 |       27 |      18 |
| Apollo               |       4 |    7039045 |    5639245 |        79 |         0 |         79 |            32 |       39 |      31 |
| Apprime              |      45 |  222098992 |  191358472 |      1719 |         5 |       1724 |          1179 |      969 |     706 |
| Bfb                  |       1 |     855586 |     819766 |        14 |         0 |         14 |             1 |        0 |       3 |
| Bluetubas            |       1 |    1262196 |     994956 |         8 |         0 |          8 |             2 |        0 |       1 |
| BorderPatroll        |       1 |    1227492 |    1173732 |        19 |         1 |         20 |             3 |        0 |       2 |
| Brasil               |       2 |    2783433 |    1924773 |        25 |         2 |         27 |             3 |        3 |       0 |
| cobra                |       3 |    8159175 |    7239735 |       116 |         0 |        116 |            65 |        0 |     103 |
| Conspiracy           |      76 |  403897717 |  344687977 |      3184 |        16 |       3200 |          2041 |     2870 |     728 |
| Damage Inc           |       2 |    4799326 |    3664246 |        82 |         1 |         83 |            16 |        3 |      97 |
| DFWTK                |      60 |  277319012 |  223722032 |      2359 |        11 |       2370 |          1511 |     2465 |     638 |
| DLR                  |      26 |  125954580 |  111268860 |       782 |        10 |        792 |           550 |      607 |     342 |
| Ending               |       1 |     353324 |     243884 |         1 |         0 |          1 |             0 |        0 |       1 |
| FAnG                 |      76 |  413853064 |  356070784 |      5445 |        43 |       5488 |          4146 |     3959 |    1107 |
| Flying Dutchman      |       1 |    1484340 |    1275600 |         2 |         0 |          2 |             0 |        0 |       1 |
| Forgotten Stars      |       2 |    1247759 |    1143599 |         5 |         0 |          5 |             0 |        4 |       2 |
| GBH                  |       1 |    1321288 |     525148 |        23 |         6 |         29 |            10 |        5 |       6 |
| GJ                   |       2 |    4403792 |    3738812 |       109 |         2 |        111 |            18 |        0 |      32 |
| hhhh                 |       1 |     437320 |     357460 |         2 |         0 |          2 |             0 |        0 |       0 |
| Hidden Agenda        |      26 |   90652225 |   75328285 |       857 |         3 |        860 |           440 |      608 |     289 |
| hirr                 |       2 |    1166467 |    1053847 |         8 |         0 |          8 |             4 |        0 |       3 |
| Howling Rain         |      51 |  168058986 |  132201246 |      1878 |        13 |       1891 |           842 |     1157 |     587 |
| Klodriks Kanoner     |       6 |   14632799 |   12309839 |       171 |         0 |        171 |            49 |        0 |      61 |
| Last Stand           |       1 |    1043999 |     683399 |         5 |         0 |          5 |             1 |        0 |       0 |
| Legion               |       1 |    1650557 |    1384937 |        20 |         0 |         20 |             2 |        0 |       2 |
| Leonidas             |       1 |     963911 |     873851 |         5 |         0 |          5 |             1 |        0 |       1 |
| Me and him           |       2 |    3413450 |    2283170 |        12 |         1 |         13 |             2 |        0 |       3 |
| Mjolnir              |       1 |    2817682 |    2578582 |        17 |         0 |         17 |             5 |        0 |      11 |
| Moonfog              |       1 |     530623 |     443743 |         1 |         0 |          1 |             0 |        0 |       0 |
| N00B                 |       1 |    1928143 |     881203 |         3 |         1 |          4 |             2 |        0 |       2 |
| NewDawn              |      58 |  255911595 |  205251375 |      2305 |        25 |       2330 |          1464 |     1952 |     684 |
| Noobs                |       2 |    2861208 |    2551308 |        20 |         0 |         20 |             7 |        0 |      13 |
| nordic alliance      |       2 |    4183948 |    3508108 |        73 |         1 |         74 |            24 |        1 |      37 |
| once_in_a_lifetime   |       1 |    3231486 |    2453406 |        15 |         1 |         16 |             2 |        0 |      15 |
| PATSA                |       7 |   21731234 |   19911674 |       136 |         1 |        137 |            72 |        0 |     101 |
| Phoenix              |      24 |   41948485 |   32838385 |       686 |         8 |        694 |           252 |      204 |     251 |
| PwNeD                |      18 |   55355756 |   38762696 |       635 |         5 |        640 |           275 |      375 |     236 |
| quest                |       1 |    1393596 |    1007076 |        14 |         0 |         14 |             2 |        1 |       2 |
| ROCK                 |      16 |   65103119 |   56906819 |       468 |         8 |        476 |           222 |      175 |     174 |
| Smegheads            |       1 |     211309 |     170269 |         2 |         0 |          2 |             0 |        0 |       0 |
| Snabb                |       1 |     563495 |     520115 |         3 |         0 |          3 |             1 |        0 |       1 |
| THA                  |       3 |    6456704 |    5273984 |        44 |         1 |         45 |            26 |       22 |       7 |
| The Dutch            |       1 |     458055 |     291795 |         8 |         0 |          8 |             1 |        0 |       2 |
| The Galactic Vikings |      27 |  101945891 |   83833151 |      1104 |         9 |       1113 |           640 |      600 |     366 |
| ThereCanOnlyBeONE    |       1 |    3308077 |    3197797 |         4 |         0 |          4 |             2 |        0 |       2 |
| Tides of Fire        |      44 |  172665161 |  138354221 |      1998 |        21 |       2019 |          1236 |     1477 |     503 |
| Ultores              |      67 |  416361893 |  348611213 |      3820 |        29 |       3849 |          2552 |     2290 |    1415 |
| xVx                  |      49 |  253206145 |  217619365 |       930 |        13 |        943 |           580 |      830 |     290 |
| xVx.bg               |       2 |    7919920 |    7597000 |         5 |         0 |          5 |             3 |        1 |       5 |
+----------------------+---------+------------+------------+-----------+-----------+------------+---------------+----------+---------+
Sorted by rank:
Code:
+----------------------+---------+------------+------------+-----------+-----------+------------+---------------+----------+---------+
| name                 | members | real_score | real_value | real_incs | fake_incs | total_incs | incs_recalled | ally_def | gal_def |
+----------------------+---------+------------+------------+-----------+-----------+------------+---------------+----------+---------+
| Ultores              |      67 |  416361893 |  348611213 |      3820 |        29 |       3849 |          2552 |     2290 |    1415 |
| FAnG                 |      76 |  413853064 |  356070784 |      5445 |        43 |       5488 |          4146 |     3959 |    1107 |
| Conspiracy           |      76 |  403897717 |  344687977 |      3184 |        16 |       3200 |          2041 |     2870 |     728 |
| xVx                  |      49 |  253206145 |  217619365 |       930 |        13 |        943 |           580 |      830 |     290 |
| DFWTK                |      60 |  277319012 |  223722032 |      2359 |        11 |       2370 |          1511 |     2465 |     638 |
| NewDawn              |      58 |  255911595 |  205251375 |      2305 |        25 |       2330 |          1464 |     1952 |     684 |
| Apprime              |      45 |  222098992 |  191358472 |      1719 |         5 |       1724 |          1179 |      969 |     706 |
| Tides of Fire        |      44 |  172665161 |  138354221 |      1998 |        21 |       2019 |          1236 |     1477 |     503 |
| Howling Rain         |      51 |  168058986 |  132201246 |      1878 |        13 |       1891 |           842 |     1157 |     587 |
| DLR                  |      26 |  125954580 |  111268860 |       782 |        10 |        792 |           550 |      607 |     342 |
| The Galactic Vikings |      27 |  101945891 |   83833151 |      1104 |         9 |       1113 |           640 |      600 |     366 |
| Hidden Agenda        |      26 |   90652225 |   75328285 |       857 |         3 |        860 |           440 |      608 |     289 |
| ROCK                 |      16 |   65103119 |   56906819 |       468 |         8 |        476 |           222 |      175 |     174 |
| PwNeD                |      18 |   55355756 |   38762696 |       635 |         5 |        640 |           275 |      375 |     236 |
| Phoenix              |      24 |   41948485 |   32838385 |       686 |         8 |        694 |           252 |      204 |     251 |
| PATSA                |       7 |   21731234 |   19911674 |       136 |         1 |        137 |            72 |        0 |     101 |
| Klodriks Kanoner     |       6 |   14632799 |   12309839 |       171 |         0 |        171 |            49 |        0 |      61 |
| cobra                |       3 |    8159175 |    7239735 |       116 |         0 |        116 |            65 |        0 |     103 |
| xVx.bg               |       2 |    7919920 |    7597000 |         5 |         0 |          5 |             3 |        1 |       5 |
| Apollo               |       4 |    7039045 |    5639245 |        79 |         0 |         79 |            32 |       39 |      31 |
| THA                  |       3 |    6456704 |    5273984 |        44 |         1 |         45 |            26 |       22 |       7 |
| Damage Inc           |       2 |    4799326 |    3664246 |        82 |         1 |         83 |            16 |        3 |      97 |
| GJ                   |       2 |    4403792 |    3738812 |       109 |         2 |        111 |            18 |        0 |      32 |
| nordic alliance      |       2 |    4183948 |    3508108 |        73 |         1 |         74 |            24 |        1 |      37 |
| ThereCanOnlyBeONE    |       1 |    3308077 |    3197797 |         4 |         0 |          4 |             2 |        0 |       2 |
| once_in_a_lifetime   |       1 |    3231486 |    2453406 |        15 |         1 |         16 |             2 |        0 |      15 |
| Noobs                |       2 |    2861208 |    2551308 |        20 |         0 |         20 |             7 |        0 |      13 |
| Mjolnir              |       1 |    2817682 |    2578582 |        17 |         0 |         17 |             5 |        0 |      11 |
| Brasil               |       2 |    2783433 |    1924773 |        25 |         2 |         27 |             3 |        3 |       0 |
| Me and him           |       2 |    3413450 |    2283170 |        12 |         1 |         13 |             2 |        0 |       3 |
| quest                |       1 |    1393596 |    1007076 |        14 |         0 |         14 |             2 |        1 |       2 |
| N00B                 |       1 |    1928143 |     881203 |         3 |         1 |          4 |             2 |        0 |       2 |
| Legion               |       1 |    1650557 |    1384937 |        20 |         0 |         20 |             2 |        0 |       2 |
| AFCA                 |       1 |    1505257 |    1042117 |        29 |         0 |         29 |             1 |        0 |       7 |
| Flying Dutchman      |       1 |    1484340 |    1275600 |         2 |         0 |          2 |             0 |        0 |       1 |
| 1up                  |       1 |    1620188 |    1411328 |        37 |         0 |         37 |            10 |        0 |      10 |
| Bluetubas            |       1 |    1262196 |     994956 |         8 |         0 |          8 |             2 |        0 |       1 |
| BorderPatroll        |       1 |    1227492 |    1173732 |        19 |         1 |         20 |             3 |        0 |       2 |
| hirr                 |       2 |    1166467 |    1053847 |         8 |         0 |          8 |             4 |        0 |       3 |
| Last Stand           |       1 |    1043999 |     683399 |         5 |         0 |          5 |             1 |        0 |       0 |
| Leonidas             |       1 |     963911 |     873851 |         5 |         0 |          5 |             1 |        0 |       1 |
| an Ode to Myself     |       1 |    3484837 |    2747197 |        48 |         0 |         48 |            30 |       27 |      18 |
| Bfb                  |       1 |     855586 |     819766 |        14 |         0 |         14 |             1 |        0 |       3 |
| Forgotten Stars      |       2 |    1247759 |    1143599 |         5 |         0 |          5 |             0 |        4 |       2 |
| Snabb                |       1 |     563495 |     520115 |         3 |         0 |          3 |             1 |        0 |       1 |
| Moonfog              |       1 |     530623 |     443743 |         1 |         0 |          1 |             0 |        0 |       0 |
| The Dutch            |       1 |     458055 |     291795 |         8 |         0 |          8 |             1 |        0 |       2 |
| A-Team               |       1 |     442965 |     273705 |         5 |         1 |          6 |             1 |        0 |       2 |
| hhhh                 |       1 |     437320 |     357460 |         2 |         0 |          2 |             0 |        0 |       0 |
| Ending               |       1 |     353324 |     243884 |         1 |         0 |          1 |             0 |        0 |       1 |
| Smegheads            |       1 |     211309 |     170269 |         2 |         0 |          2 |             0 |        0 |       0 |
| GBH                  |       1 |    1321288 |     525148 |        23 |         6 |         29 |            10 |        5 |       6 |
+----------------------+---------+------------+------------+-----------+-----------+------------+---------------+----------+---------+
Edit: fixed the scores, etc.

Notes:
this is run on end-of-round alliance statistics, so:
if someone left the alliance, it ignores them
if someone joined the alliance near the end of the round, it counts all their incs, not just the ones since they joined the alliance
all in-gal defence from alliance planets is counted as in-gal def not alliance def

Edit #2:
Backdated this information from Round 14- Round 46 here
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Re: Alliance Statistics - Round 46

Surprising:
fANg incs: 5488
Ultores incs: 3849

Less surprising:
Both Ultores' and fAnG's defense continues to be really good, unlike CT's and ND's. I forgot who said that FANg was mostly an Ultores-light, and CT mostly an ND-improved, but these stats certainly confirm those comparisons.

Other notes:
See Apprime, whose incs were nothing compared to the top 3, but who manage a similar ratio in recalls-to-deffleets as Ultores and FaNg, demonstrating that if they ever started caring again, we might have an interesting round on our hands.

Ultores is clearly the fortressing alliance, with FanG as a close second, and CT as a distant third. See Apprime, here also.

xVx seems to have done well in the avoiding incs game. By sticking to Ultores during the latter half of the round, they always ensured that there was a more immediate threat for alliances to focus on, reducing their incs substantially. Clever.


P.S. Suggesting sorting these stats by rank, rather than by alliance name. Searching for notable alliances in this format is annoying, and no one cares about "an Ode to Myself".
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Sorted by rank. Unfortunately (?) sorted the history page data by name not by rank (rank would mean taking rank as an extra field)
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Re: Alliance Statistics - Round 46

In the case of fortress gals, does it count the defense sent by ingal alliance members as "gal_def" ?

Because I do note that Ultores is good at getting gal def as compared to other alliances. If the stats count ingal allie def as "gal_def" then that makes sense, otherwise its kinda unexpected, since Ult member have less out of allie bp members etc.
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Less bottom feeding, much appreciated tyvm (not sarcasm)

tho the question .. how much chocolate did xVx have to hand out to get less than 1k incommings
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The fact that TGV, with almost half the numbers, got almost 15% or so more incomings, is pretty incredible
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Sorted by rank. Unfortunately (?) sorted the history page data by name not by rank (rank would mean taking rank as an extra field)
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I have it scripted, will truncate and rerun I think.
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Im glad the stats finaly came out, and what ive been saying all round seems to be pretty accurate.
Ultores werent even close in the total amount of incs when compared to FAnG, i think it showed us once again that this is a game of politics more than anything else, and Ultores clearly had the upper hand on FAnG this round due to that.
Anyway, TGV realy had a busy round, and they withheald pretty well.
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Im glad the stats finaly came out, and what ive been saying all round seems to be pretty accurate.
Ultores werent even close in the total amount of incs when compared to FAnG, i think it showed us once again that this is a game of politics more than anything else, and Ultores clearly had the upper hand on FAnG this round due to that.
Anyway, TGV realy had a busy round, and they withheald pretty well.
It's a big difference getting alot of incs late in the round when you've got a huge valuelead on everyone and getting hit pre t300 when everyones equal.

The stats from last round proves that pretty well
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It's a big difference getting alot of incs late in the round when you've got a huge valuelead on everyone and getting hit pre t300 when everyones equal.

The stats from last round proves that pretty well
The most incs of FAnG im pretty sure came before the last two weeks of the round.
When FAnG took the largest hits they were in 2nd, so i proves nothing else than Ultores/CT clearly did the right political moves, all being in #1 at some point, still avoiding incs.
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Point still stands, you had a gigantic valuelead when you got hit, while we had the bulk of our incs when everyone was about the same size
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As great and all as these stats are (kudos appoco/whoever is responsible for them) one should recall the old adage about lies, damn lies and statistics. Beyond eksero's point about the timing of incs being important in terms of the start of the round and the issues over fleet value etc there are other areas. For example over-covering incs outside of peak inc times using ally def would show up as something good on these stats (raising your def fleets sent) when the most efficient option would be to use ingal def (ideally this fleet would never even launch as the attacker would jgp by eta 5, see def and recall). Equally something good, sending early attack waves at 1/2am to try and drain def fleets which then couldn't be used on attack and recalling yourself to def/self-cover/attack elsewhere looks like something bad (the attacked alliance has a higher cover/recall %). Food for thought either way though.

And holy shit did xVx even play this round, that is outrageous.

Oh and congratulations Ultores. Good to see an alliance with enough self-belief to keep going through a tough start to the round. I'd come back and see if I could stop you winning five in a row next round but y'know, razor blades in eyeballs etc.
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Point still stands, you had a gigantic valuelead when you got hit, while we had the bulk of our incs when everyone was about the same size
This is just BS, FAnG got hit throughout the whole round.
Ultores for sure got hit a lot in the start, but before easter the presure was lowered.
These stats dont lie, FAnG clearly had more enemies than Ultores this round, and thats why Ultores won, cus they played the political card best. The Ultores/CT/What ever side outnumbered FAnG by far, both in value and in numbers.
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Would it be possible to see a race/shiptype breakdown per alliance as well?

edit: B-Butch3r why do you keep doing this? People on AD are never going to agree with you, but every thread you make into a huge back and forth between you and some of the other usual suspects. You were right about Ult going to win, take pride in that and please stop doing this?
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This is just BS, FAnG got hit throughout the whole round.
Ultores for sure got hit a lot in the start, but before easter the presure was lowered.
These stats dont lie, FAnG clearly had more enemies than Ultores this round, and thats why Ultores won, cus they played the political card best. The Ultores/CT/What ever side outnumbered FAnG by far, both in value and in numbers.
Well, looking at that other thread, your definition of 'being hit' is getting incs from random galraids..

I never denied that fang had more enemies than us this round, BUT most of the incs we had were all pre tick 500, we had a couple of 150-200 inc nights after that, but nothing more really. You on the other hand had most of your incs in the second half of the round, which is way easier to defend, given you had a big valuelead
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mm so last round Ult had the situation FaNG had this round..
But lets face it you lost it by not grounding those first 4 days of incs.
IF you played it right you should still have won with the members you have.
Just like Ult did last round..
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This is just BS, FAnG got hit throughout the whole round.
Ultores for sure got hit a lot in the start, but before easter the presure was lowered.
These stats dont lie, FAnG clearly had more enemies than Ultores this round, and thats why Ultores won, cus they played the political card best. The Ultores/CT/What ever side outnumbered FAnG by far, both in value and in numbers.
you lost from a 98% winning position.. time to get over it
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Epic to have all the old info up there, thanks Appoco
Would be nice if it could be sorted by alliance rank instead of name if possible though, as people said. Also, is it possible to add another column, for 'incs per member' or something. Just the total number of incs divided by alliance membercount? Might be an even better representation than the total number of incs...
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Epic to have all the old info up there, thanks Appoco
Would be nice if it could be sorted by alliance rank instead of name if possible though, as people said. Also, is it possible to add another column, for 'incs per member' or something. Just the total number of incs divided by alliance membercount? Might be an even better representation than the total number of incs...
I re-did it all and *thought* I sorted by rank ... apologies, I seem to have not done that. I'll fix it shortly.

The data is really there for further analysis as much as anything else.
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And holy shit did xVx even play this round, that is outrageous.
We hit the alliances above us 90% of the round, they just seemd too busy to throw something back at us. That being said we may have tapdanced a bit to keep the heavy incs away at the same time..
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See Apprime, whose incs were nothing compared to the top 3, but who manage a similar ratio in recalls-to-deffleets as Ultores and FaNg, demonstrating that if they ever started caring again, we might have an interesting round on our hands.

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http://beta.planetarion.com/history/?id=7&round=38

NFI had 3,800~ incs round 38. Granted, not as many as FaNG had this round but that statistic should still at least prove we didn't have an "easy" round.

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So you guys want meaningless stats, I'll give them to you.

Top 10 alliances: https://gist.github.com/2717819

Top 10 alliances by total incs: https://gist.github.com/2717849
Top 10 alliances by ratio: https://gist.github.com/2717959

Round winners by total incs: https://gist.github.com/2717892
Round winners by ratio: https://gist.github.com/2717966
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Holy shit. Round 30 really was as awesome as I remember it being.
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Holy shit. Round 30 really was as awesome as I remember it being.
Yeah but we were cheating like ****.




No really, how do we have 106 planets intag on that list? Because I'm pretty sure I would have remembered that.
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PA history says we had 100. PAWiki agrees. So I'm not really sure what's going on. Maybe it uses a list of all the people who were in our tag at any point in the round? Appoco, care to shed some light?
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What the stats tell me is that 1up/exiltion were fantastically consistent, and that ascendancy's stars really did align in r30 in terms of talent and motivation. That was probably the most military of our victories over the others.

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Too low for that one. I too would be interested to hear from appoco on this!
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Oh my This is still going on... for the love of god can we forget 1up and exilihion.
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Apprime had 5734 incs round 40 so both of your alliances clearly suck.

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I wasn't insisting we were "better" than anyone, all I'm saying is that in the grand scheme of things the number of incs we got were pretty average for a round winning alliance.

According to mz's post, Round 30's Ascendancy looked pretty f**king rock solid. Can't remember playing that round.
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Re: Alliance Statistics - Round 46

Looking at the stats a bit closer some of them are definitely off. For example CT won r20 and Ascendancy won r26 so presumably those snapshots were taken after the last tick and are not wholly accurate. In general it looks about right though, rounds where everyone was shit and rounds which were over very early at the bottom and the better hard-fought rounds at the top. Props to r40 apprime, I have zero recollection of that round but you must have done something right!
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Looking at the stats a bit closer some of them are definitely off. For example CT won r20 and Ascendancy won r26 so presumably those snapshots were taken after the last tick and are not wholly accurate. In general it looks about right though, rounds where everyone was shit and rounds which were over very early at the bottom and the better hard-fought rounds at the top. Props to r40 apprime, I have zero recollection of that round but you must have done something right!
Yes none of these statistics are 100% correct for the acuracy you are after. Apocco has stated this numerous times as there are so many variants.. Until he actually posts here you can assume 100% of the stats are "off". That is in accordance with your mindset..

Obviously props to mz.. He is working with dodgey stats though
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Yes none of these statistics are 100% correct for the acuracy you are after. Apocco has stated this numerous times as there are so many variants.. Until he actually posts here you can assume 100% of the stats are "off". That is in accordance with your mindset..

Obviously props to mz.. He is working with dodgey stats though
No. Appoco stated in his first post that these are based on end of round statistics. Those 2 rounds are not. This is different to the "problems" with the stats that Appoco noted originally.



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Edit: And god round 39 was awful. There are only 2 round winning alliances who didn't receive double the weighted incs that Apprime did that round.
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Re: Alliance Statistics - Round 46

Yes, I've noticed before that the data on beta.pa.com/history isn't always correct. The PAWiki does have the correct data for those rounds, though only of top scoring ranks. Of course, the PAWiki has it's own delightful set of problems, so I generally tend to be doubtful about any information that isn't identical on both sites.
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Props to r40 apprime, I have zero recollection of that round but you must have done something right!
r40 was the round ROCK switched sides countless of times. CT/ND were more interested in ROCK, after they switched to the App/xVx/ODDR block, then they were in App.

Ohh and you couldn't be more right about round 39... That round was just horridly boring.
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PA history says we had 100. PAWiki agrees. So I'm not really sure what's going on. Maybe it uses a list of all the people who were in our tag at any point in the round? Appoco, care to shed some light?
Ah, I think this is another amendment .... I didn't take into account applicants.

I can re-run it all again and remove applicants.
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Would it be possible to see a race/shiptype breakdown per alliance as well?

edit: B-Butch3r why do you keep doing this? People on AD are never going to agree with you, but every thread you make into a huge back and forth between you and some of the other usual suspects. You were right about Ult going to win, take pride in that and please stop doing this?
Give me more specifics and I can


As to the tick thing, I'm not sure how you'd be able to graph launched / received fleets per tick per alliance, etc.

And yes, 3 round stats are out as the data isn't from the final tick - I did mean to put a note on that. One is actually from havoc, iirc. Unfortunately, we don't have the final tick backups for those rounds, but the launch data should still be fairly accurate, even if the final ranking isn't quite there.
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