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Unread 21 Nov 2014, 03:46   #1
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R59 run in

So now we are in the final stages.
As the roidcount stands today, Ultprime will win by a 5 mil margin if all planets was to be counted for.
Inferno and BlackFlag seems to be fighting a pointless battle unless they start with some heavy XP lands.
11 of top20 planets are XP whoring, meanwhile XP is dominating top5, so its safe bet that it will most likely be only XP planets in the top10.
Its gonna be interesting to see how the top4 alliances will play the last 350 ticks
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Re: R59 run in

Ultprime is really impressive, p-targetting the #9 alliance!
I tremble before their might!

Easy roids win the round i guess?
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Re: R59 run in

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Ultprime is really impressive, p-targetting the #9 alliance!
I tremble before their might!

Easy roids win the round i guess?
They target us, why should we not target them back?
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This is the value gamelas. That u guys love só much.
As all U say. Xp sux. Lets roid small and inaxtive planets and win. Thats the best way tô win a war game. Not losing ships.
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This is the value gamelas. That u guys love só much.
As all U say. Xp sux. Lets roid small and inaxtive planets and win. Thats the best way tô win a war game. Not losing ships.
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They target us, why should we not target them back?
Keep telling yourself that.
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Keep telling yourself that.
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Do you disagree?
I disgree yes.
I disagree because I know who we attacked and we never P-targgeted prior to PT 833.

Prior to PT 833 it was limited to gal raiding.. obviously there would've been ULTPRIMEs on these gal raids..

I suggest you check the hostile fleets from/to HR up to PT 760 - the point at which ULTPRIME started P-targetting - they really aren't that far off..
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Ultprime is really impressive, p-targetting the #9 alliance!
I tremble before their might!

Easy roids win the round i guess?
We are being targeted ourselfs by HR just beacuse they are rank #9 does not mean we cant retaliate towards them this is a war game quit complaining
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We are being targeted ourselfs by HR just beacuse they are rank #9 does not mean we cant retaliate towards them this is a war game quit complaining
Nice twisting of the facts.

ULTPRIME startted P-targetting HR at PT 760-784.
HR startted P-targetting ULTPRIME 2 days later.
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Nice twisting of the facts.

ULTPRIME startted P-targetting HR at PT 760-784.
HR startted P-targetting ULTPRIME 2 days later.
while you may have thought that you weren't ptargetting, hitting ult forts for a week prior to this while we were at war with rainbows/newdawn is much the same, it may have just been bad timing, however it is what it is. You should speak to your HCs about reducing all their naps/avoidances so they can spread the incs around a little more to avoid retaliation next time
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while you may have thought that you weren't ptargetting, hitting ult forts for a week prior to this while we were at war with rainbows/newdawn is much the same, it may have just been bad timing, however it is what it is.
Another BS excuse.

Looking at the week prior to PT 760: at no point was Ult our top hostile target.

The maximum number of hostile fleets a single day was 19.
The average number of hostile fleets is 11.. (this was updated: it used to say below 11 but missed a day when counting the average)

I suppose that qualifies as hitting ult forts for a week.


Don't worry tho, you're right: it is what it is and we'll deal with it.

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while you may have thought that you weren't ptargetting, hitting ult forts for a week prior to this while we were at war with rainbows/newdawn is much the same, it may have just been bad timing, however it is what it is. You should speak to your HCs about reducing all their naps/avoidances so they can spread the incs around a little more to avoid retaliation next time
Or maybe you could do the same, so that you don't end up clutching at straws and lying when trying to justify smashing the alliance whose shelter you formerly claimed to carve erstwhile political agreements around.
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Nice twisting of the facts.

ULTPRIME startted P-targetting HR at PT 760-784.
HR startted P-targetting ULTPRIME 2 days later.
HR ptargeted us with rainbows and nd before that ...
We hit ND before we hit HR if you didnt notice so... joining in on targeting is great fun especially if there is more alliances involved but when your hit back you cry like a little baby and its unfair?
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HR ptargeted us with rainbows and nd before that ...
Before that it was gal raiding, not P-targetting.
If someone is telling you it was P-targetting then they are spreading BS.


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I'm not crying at all. I'm just responding to all the made up BS in this thread.
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ultprime have played the politics right is why they have roids, leaves only ND/HR to attack them.. !
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ultprime have played the politics right is why they have roids, leaves only ND/HR to attack them.. !
Well they are the best alliance this round.
P3ng/BF knows they dont stand a chance against them, so they settle with getting #2 or #3
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That's right. The #1 and #2 alliances are settling in behind the #3 alliance. You heard it here first, people!
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That's right. The #1 and #2 alliances are settling in behind the #3 alliance. You heard it here first, people!
Can you please give me a calculation, based on todays roid Count, who is gonna win Mz?
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Can you please give me a calculation, based on todays roid Count, who is gonna win Mz?
Your such a troll at times
Why does today's roid count determine the winner in 2 weeks time? HaS everyone made a pact to stop attacking/initing???
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Why does today's roid count determine the winner in 2 weeks time? HaS everyone made a pact to stop attacking/initing???
also butch3r please answer this question
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Can you please give me a calculation, based on todays roid Count, who is gonna win Mz?
As you yourself said in the OP, this is an XP round. Roids are just not that important.
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As you yourself said in the OP, this is an XP round. Roids are just not that important.
Well p3ng and BF aint stupid, they know they cant deal with Ult incs, so they will not break the NAP.
Ive witnessed the incs of Ult, its 60 planets launching at you + all the support tags.
It means 150+ fleets EACH night + all supporting allies.
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Well p3ng and BF aint stupid, they know they cant deal with Ult incs, so they will not break the NAP.
Ive witnessed the incs of Ult, its 60 planets launching at you + all the support tags.
It means 150+ fleets EACH night + all supporting allies.
Who are the support tags?
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he mentioned a tag with 14 members of which a grand total of 5 are probably attacking, id be impressed if we sent 120+ incs at you.
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he mentioned a tag with 14 members of which a grand total of 5 are probably attacking, id be impressed if we sent 120+ incs at you.
Okey, sorry, honsetly we only got 103 incs so far by the ODDRs we got in Our intel.
If you would please so kind give a Complete coord list i would give you an exact answer vulGay
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Okey, sorry, honsetly we only got 103 incs so far by the ODDRs we got in Our intel.
If you would please so kind give a Complete coord list i would give you an exact answer vulGay
quick tip to improve your English invalid, the nick is usually right next to the post. sif I could trust you to count if you can't even spell
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quick tip to improve your English invalid, the nick is usually right next to the post. sif I could trust you to count if you can't even spell
Meanwhile, if i could trust you in beliving the falkland island belongs to the UK, id aswell keep on beliving what ever you keep saying.
Youve dragged the ODDR tag way below what it deserves, if you would quit or leave it alone, perhaps it would blossom again
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Meanwhile, if i could trust you in beliving the falkland island belongs to the UK, id aswell keep on beliving what ever you keep saying.
Youve dragged the ODDR tag way below what it deserves, if you would quit or leave it alone, perhaps it would blossom again
BloodyButcher if you tried using the internet sometime you would find plenty of proof that the Faulkland Islands "belong" to the UK, to save you some time heres a link seeing as we don't want to see you hurt yourself by overthinking things...

wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands

now I also don't see what that has to do with Vulgar giving you a tip on improving your English... face it your just mad cause I took your roids bro!
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Okey, sorry, honsetly we only got 103 incs so far by the ODDRs we got in Our intel.
If you would please so kind give a Complete coord list i would give you an exact answer vulGay
Vulgay , what are you 12 ? Said it before and I'll say it again, we have no organised attacks this round, our 14 man tag mainly retals.

So if you have 103 incoming fleets from us, you probably tried to farm our members.
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Vulgay , what are you 12 ? Said it before and I'll say it again, we have no organised attacks this round, our 14 man tag mainly retals.

So if you have 103 incoming fleets from us, you probably tried to farm our members.

How can you complain bram it's a 14 man tag who from what I can gather don't do very much attacking could possibly be "hostile" or threating towards HR
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How can you complain bram it's a 14 man tag who from what I can gather don't do very much attacking could possibly be "hostile" or threating towards HR
I know it's really difficult for most people on AD but at least make an effort to try reading the text and WHO said that.

I NEVER said anything about ODDR.

Only people who talked about ODDR in this thread: BloodyButcher, vuLgAr, HeimdallR.
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Vulgay , what are you 12 ?
Considering that half of PAF calls Butcher 'Bitcher', he may merely be adjusting himself to the lowest common denominator.
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Vulgay , what are you 12 ? Said it before and I'll say it again, we have no organised attacks this round, our 14 man tag mainly retals.

So if you have 103 incoming fleets from us, you probably tried to farm our members.
Meanwhile, these attacks from ODDR came along side the Ultprime incs everyday for basicly two weeks?
Couldnt you just go with something, "not all of us is outtag Ultprimers"?
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So now we are in the final stages

Inferno and BlackFlag seems to be fighting a pointless battle unless they start with some heavy XP lands.
And of course the alliance which is ranked 1st right now had nothing to do with this war what so ever according to this one line above? Strange how you seem to think only these 2 alliances can make the difference and the alliance currently sat at first (for a while) doesn't seem to exist..

From what I also read from this thread is the fact Rainbows (your alliance) hr and ND tried to take on ult 3 on 1 and lost badly so now your trying to use some very bad PR to make others hit them. Maybe you should just concentrate on improving your own war/military tactics as it appears 3 alliances couldn't get the job done in the first place.
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And of course the alliance which is ranked 1st right now had nothing to do with this war what so ever according to this one line above? Strange how you seem to think only these 2 alliances can make the difference and the alliance currently sat at first (for a while) doesn't seem to exist..

From what I also read from this thread is the fact Rainbows (your alliance) hr and ND tried to take on ult 3 on 1 and lost badly so now your trying to use some very bad PR to make others hit them. Maybe you should just concentrate on improving your own war/military tactics as it appears 3 alliances couldn't get the job done in the first place.
Inferno should be included with bf and p3n in the pantheon of cowardice for the round if they do indeed let ult sail through, but pointing out ult are going to win if one of those three doesn't do something about it isn't accurately summed up as "very bad pr". It looks like the probable outcome and no amount of laughing at their second rate block changes how worthless other top alliances look when they shy away from the challenge.

Given your self professed, undying, eternal, totally platonic, really special respect for ult means you probably won't be helping out any time soon. Here's to hoping bf do...
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Inferno should be included with bf and p3n in the pantheon of cowardice for the round if they do indeed let ult sail through, but pointing out ult are going to win if one of those three doesn't do something about it isn't accurately summed up as "very bad pr". It looks like the probable outcome and no amount of laughing at their second rate block changes how worthless other top alliances look when they shy away from the challenge.

Given your self professed, undying, eternal, totally platonic, really special respect for ult means you probably won't be helping out any time soon. Here's to hoping bf do...
This whole reply had nothing to do with my post completely... I was addressing Butcher in regards to he never brought up the fact p3nguins were involved in the Inferno and BF war.

Ie at the time Inferno, BF and p3nguins were the contenders and were rightly hitting each other. Was this cowardice? No. However how anyone can lecture on cowardice when word on the street is alliances such as CT (are you not part of this alliance?) decided to allie with Ult and hit p3nguins alongside Rainbows (oh yes Butchers alliance.. how ironic) and Inferno. So 2 of the people pointing out how Ult is such a threat are part of allies which are either allied to them or, are choosing to hit another alliance they wish to take Ult on. Makes perfect sense I guess...

I do indeed have respect for Ult because they appear to be the only alliance out there who stick to their word/bond.
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Bram pal. Ptargetting is often muddled with fort hitting which hr did to help nd and rainbows this did not go unnoticed. So you may claim that you didn't hit ult only. You did in fact hit the same amount of planets as rainbows and new dawn.
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Bram pal. Ptargetting is often muddled with fort hitting which hr did to help nd and rainbows this did not go unnoticed. So you may claim that you didn't hit ult only. You did in fact hit the same amount of planets as rainbows and new dawn.
Geee... then Rainbows and ND must really suck at attacking.

I just re-checked our attacks, Ult planets added on the target list the week leading up to PT 760:
* 3 times 3 Ult planets
* 1 time 4 Ult planets (spread over 2 gals)
* 4 times 2 Ult planets
* 1 time 0 Ult planets

Or in other words: most planets attacked by Rainbows/NewDawn at one particular day was at most 4? While being at war?


At no point it was the most targetted alliance tho.
And no, I'm not going to disclose who that was

So sure, if we redefine 'fort' to a galaxy holding two members of a tag then yes we hit your forts daily!

In fact, the galaxies that were hit even had more planets of one alliance then there are Ult planets in gal.. So if anything it were forts of these other alliances and not Ult forts.
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The statement "X will win if no one attacks them" is not a deeply enlightening insight into the nature of PA. It's a boring platitude (though true, as they usually are), and it's barely worthy of acknowledgement. People should totally attack Ultprime if they want to stop them from winning. That's pretty obvious, no?

What people are bothered about more than anything is not the substance, but the style of Butcher's AD record this round. His constant and transparent efforts at playing the political mastermind by attempting to shame and manipulate alliances into action where his own has apparently failed, have been constant irritating background noise. Not because they're true or false, that's almost totally irrelevant on AD, but because they're bad. They're insulting the very people they're intended to convince. They're the AD equivalent of "Nap us or we'll target you!".

Since this latest attempt is no better than the previous ones, featuring ODDR as the unstoppable crusher of top alliances, the ridicule that this thread is currently receiving is well deserved.
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The statement "X will win if no one attacks them" is not a deeply enlightening insight into the nature of PA. It's a boring platitude (though true, as they usually are), and it's barely worthy of acknowledgement. People should totally attack Ultprime if they want to stop them from winning. That's pretty obvious, no?

What people are bothered about more than anything is not the substance, but the style of Butcher's AD record this round. His constant and transparent efforts at playing the political mastermind by attempting to shame and manipulate alliances into action where his own has apparently failed, have been constant irritating background noise. Not because they're true or false, that's almost totally irrelevant on AD, but because they're bad. They're insulting the very people they're intended to convince. They're the AD equivalent of "Nap us or we'll target you!".

Since this latest attempt is no better than the previous ones, featuring ODDR as the unstoppable crusher of top alliances, the ridicule that this thread is currently receiving is well deserved.
If you think im trying to get people to attack Ultprime, then you are very wrong.
Myself would have no problem seeing Ultprime winning this round, theyve to my acknowledge been the by far strongest alliance.
Im not trying to convince anyone into doing anything, and if i was i wouldnt be doing it on AD.
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If you think im trying to get people to attack Ultprime, then you are very wrong.
Myself would have no problem seeing Ultprime winning this round, theyve to my acknowledge been the by far strongest alliance.
Im not trying to convince anyone into doing anything, and if i was i wouldnt be doing it on AD.
I'm not accusing you of being (specifically) anti-Ultprime.
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Since this latest attempt is no better than the previous ones, featuring ODDR as the unstoppable crusher of top alliances, the ridicule that this thread is currently receiving is well deserved.
Apparently we are very scary
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Seeing HR is gaining massive amount of roids, and Ultprime is loosing a few, are HR winning 1on1 vs Ultprime?
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Seeing HR is gaining massive amount of roids, and Ultprime is loosing a few, are HR winning 1on1 vs Ultprime?
its not 1 v 1 ND hitting ult also, we also had a fockers visit last night =)
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Seeing HR is gaining massive amount of roids, and Ultprime is loosing a few, are HR winning 1on1 vs Ultprime?
Guess it indicates that Howling Rain by far is a stronger foe to have then Rainbows?
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Guess it indicates that Howling Rain by far is a stronger foe to have then Rainbows?
I would Guess that must be the truth.
I would Guess that bows would be actualy dragging down HR/ND, since apparently when there was a Block of BowS/ND/HR attackign Ult, Ult was still winning
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I would Guess that must be the truth.
I would Guess that bows would be actualy dragging down HR/ND, since apparently when there was a Block of BowS/ND/HR attackign Ult, Ult was still winning
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