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Unread 14 Mar 2004, 22:10   #1
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[Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

1 Arsenal 28 37 70
2 Chelsea 28 29 61
3 Man Utd 28 23 58
4 Liverpool 29 11 45
5 Newcastle 29 11 45
6 Charlton 29 3 43
7 Birmingham 29 -2 42

8 Aston Villa 29 2 40
9 Fulham 29 2 39



Updated the table, amazing how much one week changes things........ :eek:
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

Newcastle.
Not really sure why!
But yes - Villa could easily get it.
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

I'm going for Newcastle
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

comedy "Spurs" option?
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

oh and who'd you reckon will get the Uefa place? It's starting to look like no european football at anfield next season
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

if it means birmingham vs inter milan im all for it
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

Newcastle

Liverpool have 3 easy games coming (Pompey, Wolves, Leicester) but they will **** up at least 1 if not two of those.

PS : Pompey , Leeds , Wolves to go down.
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

On a side note - only the top team should go into the champions league!
Maybe 2 but 4 is ridiculous!
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

guess it depends on whether you think the competition should consist of the best teams in europe or just an equal number from each country because that's 'fairer'
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

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guess it depends on whether you think the competition should consist of the best teams in europe or just an equal number from each country because that's 'fairer'
I think it should be the CHAMPIONS league like it used to be (ironic it changed name to champions league and isnt just champions!). How can u be european champions if not domestic champions!?
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I think it should be the CHAMPIONS league like it used to be (ironic it changed name to champions league and isnt just champions!). How can u be european champions if not domestic champions!?
I'd rather watch Chelsea Vs Barcelona than the Estonian champions...

Call it the European Cup/League again if you wanna be pedantic bout it
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I'd rather watch Chelsea Vs Barcelona than the Estonian champions...

Call it the European Cup/League again if you wanna be pedantic bout it
You can watch that in the UEFA cup.
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You can watch that in the UEFA cup.
That would make the uefa cup the more popular competition. I have one word that'll stop that happening:


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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

Newcastle will hopefully get the spot. Hopefully Liverpool wont, so Houlier will get sacked and the club might eventually have the chance to move forward with a better manager.
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

Sadly, I don't think my beloved Liverpool will.

On the bright side, this means Le Prof will finally get sacked, although the downer is, Owen may leave.
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

Liverpool will get it causing Houllier to stay on another year and mess things up even more.
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Sadly, I don't think my beloved Liverpool will.

On the bright side, this means Le Prof will finally get sacked, although the downer is, Owen may leave.
Losing a striker whos out of touch, lacking confidence, and hasnt looked the same player for a good 2 years, and getting a cracking transfer fee for him as well, isnt such a bad deal Belgy.

youve got Cisse coming in, and Baros is playing extremely well. Theyre the future of Liverpool , not Owen.

Losing Gerrard would kill you. Losing Owen may be your salvation.
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That would make the uefa cup the more popular competition. I have one word that'll stop that happening:


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in 2005 the nice people at fifa are bringing the world club championships back, because they don't like the power the CL has. apparently they want the asian and african teams profiles to be improved, which will obviously work when they get hammered of the top european clubs. i hate the pricks in suits
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in 2005 the nice people at fifa are bringing the world club championships back, because they don't like the power the CL has. apparently they want the asian and african teams profiles to be improved, which will obviously work when they get hammered of the top european clubs. i hate the pricks in suits
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what would your team be with everyone fit?
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

That's a tough one.

I think McCartney/Arca is working well down the left, so I'd leave that be. Whitley's playing really well in midfield.

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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

If it is '10 men behind the ball, lamp it to Forssell' Birmingham, the premier league is the worst it's ever been.

Portsmouth will go down unless we win away. Not going to happen if we decide to defend at halftime when its 0-0. I think Leeds will survive, considering they have all of their rivals at home in the next few weeks.

The fact that Jakiri has got 3 tickets to games at this stage of the season shows the massive advantage of being in Div 1 - they were probably good value as well. There are games this season I've gone to which could have paid for at least FOUR last season
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

Also the SoL is enormous.
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

Charlton will painfully grind it out and then Curbishley will be called the greatest manager in english football despite the fact positions 4-20 are actually a relegation battle.
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

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Charlton will painfully grind it out and then Curbishley will be called the greatest manager in english football despite the fact positions 4-20 are actually a relegation battle.
Praying that Newcastle will get it in that case :/
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

villa ofc. teh german wonderboy pwns y0 all!
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

If Arsenal/Chelsea win the whole thing - Do we get another CL place for next season?
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

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If Arsenal/Chelsea win the whole thing - Do we get another CL place for next season?
You can only have 4 max.
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

Birmingham will get it, nosing ahead of Charlton.

Newcastle and Liverpool aren't going to get even remotely close, especially not Liverpool.
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

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If Arsenal/Chelsea win the whole thing - Do we get another CL place for next season?
Just the 4, although only the 4th place will have to qualify, rather than 3rd and 4th.
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

What would happen if say Chelsea won it, but finished 5th in the league?

Would the 4th place team be deprived of a Champs league spot, or would we have 4 + Chelsea because they would be the holders?
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

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What would happen if say Chelsea won it, but finished 5th in the league?

Would the 4th place team be deprived of a Champs league spot, or would we have 4 + Chelsea because they would be the holders?
That is a very good question! I assume 4th place wouldnt get it but that does seem a tad harsh!
Not gonna happen tho is it...
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

i really hope that charlton get it, just for the sheer wtf value
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

From uefa.com:

At the request of the national association concerned, the UEFA Champions League title holders may be entered for this competition as an additional representatiove of that association, if they have not qualified for the UEFA Champions League via the top domestic league championship. If in such a case, the title-holders come rom an association entitled to enter four teams for the UEFA Champions league, the 4th places club in the domestic league championship has to be entered for the UEFA cup.

Ie - the FA chose who goes thro - Chelsea or 4th placed team.
(BTW - hope u appreciate that - had to type it out as pdf thing wouldnt allow me to c&p!)
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

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At the request of the national association concerned, the UEFA Champions League title holders may be entered for this competition as an additional representatiove of that association, if they have not qualified for the UEFA Champions League via the top domestic league championship. If in such a case, the title-holders come rom an association entitled to enter four teams for the UEFA Champions league, the 4th places club in the domestic league championship has to be entered for the UEFA cup.

Ie - the FA chose who goes thro - Chelsea or 4th placed team.
(BTW - hope u appreciate that - had to type it out as pdf thing wouldnt allow me to c&p!)
i was wondering why UEFA didn't do spell checks

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i was wondering why UEFA didn't do spell checks

and yeah, you can copy and paste from acrobat
Sorry didnt see that before and yes I know you can but not in this protected document!
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FS looks like newcastle are set for the last spot now after those results.
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

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FS looks like newcastle are set for the last spot now after those results.
Dunno - Liverpool could - they skanked a last min win.
I reckon the Villa score (no offence JC) was most surprisin.

Who do people WANT to get 4th?
I'd like Charlton.
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

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I reckon the Villa score (no offence JC) was most surprisin.
I was shocked as well. Going on current form we had no chance, but Steadinho did it again .
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

Looking over the run in, Liverpool have 5 home , 4 away, but the aways are Man U , Arsenal , Birmingham and Leicester.

Newcastle have 4 home and 5 away, but their 2 big games (Arsenal and Chelsea) will be at St James Park. Although the final game of the season sees Liverpool v Newcastle @ Anfield.
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Re: [Football] Who's going to get the 4th champions league spot?

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I was shocked as well. Going on current form we had no chance, but Steadinho did it again .
He is just an absoloutely cracking little player. I heard his goal was a cracker, looking forward to seeing it tonight.
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Bastards. He wanted to come to us
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